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How are those two things in ANY way related? One is having sex with someone too young to give consent, the other is a girl who has a low self esteem unless she's got makeup on.... how are those two ANYTHING alike... I'm ready for red thumbs but someone please explain how they are even comparable?
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ishouldplayzelda (07/07/2012) [-]
people like you look too far into it and consider things that don't need to be considered to understand. having to wear tons of makeup and getting an oompa-looma tan to feel good about yourself even though it makes you like like a fake whore is a stupid thing to do. raping a child because you feel the need to assert your dominance and feel good about yourself (in whichever way comes of it) is also a stupid thing to do, they just have different repercussions. now this is where you need to STOP analyzing it. they are both stupid things that people do to feel good about themselves. take out what the repercussions are, whether it's legal or not and the different moral factors of each and the analogy makes perfect sense. if you delve into any analogy at all way farther than need be, it will fall apart like this one did for you. for instance, a burger is like a cheeseburger because they're both burgers, are they not? "well, no of course they are not! one has cheese and one doesn't. the cheese completely changes the flavor and everything about eating it". see? i should have just stopped at "they're both a type of hamburger" but i kept going past the point and the explanation fell apart. that's what you do.
TL:DR- you think too far into things
TL:DR- you think too far into things
I'm not thinking far into anything... when I see a joke, even a dumb one, I don't tend to think deeply about it at all, I never let a bad attempt at a joke ruin the idea of the joke for me... but this isn't at all clever, this isn't at all funny, this is again, just a stupid post and an even stupider comment with the attempt at trying to be whitty and it failed miserably... maybe if the commenter had any sort of brain he could have turned it into something funny, but instead, he turned it into an idiot commenting on another idiot. There is no thinking too deep about this, because anyone with a brain cell can see that this isn't funny in the least, as an attempt at a joke it failed miserably because it has no real substance or intellect behind it. To make a joke you need some sort of intellect, and there was none in this, the attempt was there, but if he had made an actual RELEVANT comparison then it would have been funny, but it wasn't clever, and it was far from funny.
And I'm not saying this based on "child rape is not a joking matter" either, I understand that jokes are made all the time about things that are socially unacceptable. I'm saying this joke is not funny and is bad because, that's it, it's not funny and it's bad....
And I'm not saying this based on "child rape is not a joking matter" either, I understand that jokes are made all the time about things that are socially unacceptable. I'm saying this joke is not funny and is bad because, that's it, it's not funny and it's bad....
so if i found it funny, does that mean by your standards i'm a fucking idiot who does not posses any brain cells? i'm rather offended. just because i have a different sense of humor and find some things funny that you do not doesn't mean you need to call people like me brainless. peoples' senses of humor are like opinions. respect them, please
also i just explained to you why they're relevant, you're just delving too far into it again. they're both stupid things to do. there. stop, please. that's as far as you need to go to get what the commenter was saying
also i just explained to you why they're relevant, you're just delving too far into it again. they're both stupid things to do. there. stop, please. that's as far as you need to go to get what the commenter was saying
Yes, and you also have a very very low standard for jokes, like knock knock, who's there? Dirt. Dirt who? Potato... bet you thought that was funny too....
You gave no explanation to how they are relevant to each other, one harms no one for ones benefit, while the other harms a child for ones own benefit.... there is no way to even get close to comparing the two... and if you somehow find it funny and see a comparison then I do have news for you, you are a fucking idiot. Red thumb me to hell but Jesus you have to be dense as fuck to see any relevance between the two...
You gave no explanation to how they are relevant to each other, one harms no one for ones benefit, while the other harms a child for ones own benefit.... there is no way to even get close to comparing the two... and if you somehow find it funny and see a comparison then I do have news for you, you are a fucking idiot. Red thumb me to hell but Jesus you have to be dense as fuck to see any relevance between the two...
and no, i did not find that funny because it had no comedic merit whatsoever, in my eyes. maybe there's some special needs kid out there who would laugh his ass off at your "joke" but i wouldn't judge him because it's part of his personal preferences. calling people who laugh at the contents' joke stupid is like calling people who enjoy the taste of papaya stupid. but of course you'll probably take away the purity of that analogy too and tell me why they're also not similar
are you just ignoring the things i type? ok then i'm going to simplify this for you. please give a yes or no answer to these 2 questions i'm about to ask you. if you can't do then then YOU are the fucking idiot.
question 1- is caking shit-tons of makeup on yourself and giving yourself an awful tan just to feel "pretty" a stupid thing to do in any way and to any degree at all? (this is something girls like this REQUIRE to feel good about themselves and they are never satisfied with just themselves. i personally find it pathetic that they need to be someone else to be happy)
question 2- is raping a child a stupid thing to do? as in, if you went out in public, grabbed a child and raped him in front of a bunch of passersby, would you personally consider that a stupid decision?
the key word is stupid! are these both stupid things to do? are they STUPID ?
question 1- is caking shit-tons of makeup on yourself and giving yourself an awful tan just to feel "pretty" a stupid thing to do in any way and to any degree at all? (this is something girls like this REQUIRE to feel good about themselves and they are never satisfied with just themselves. i personally find it pathetic that they need to be someone else to be happy)
question 2- is raping a child a stupid thing to do? as in, if you went out in public, grabbed a child and raped him in front of a bunch of passersby, would you personally consider that a stupid decision?
the key word is stupid! are these both stupid things to do? are they STUPID ?
1) no (if you need to change yourself to feel good about yourself then do it, that's how people loose weight and get rid of their acne by actually DOING something about their looks, just because someone else doesn't agree with your methods of putting on makeup and orange spray tan doesn't mean it's wrong if it makes you happy)
2) yes (although stupid isn't the word I would use to describe child rape, and if you simply think that rape, especially child rape is just simply "stupid" you REALLY ARE dense)
2) yes (although stupid isn't the word I would use to describe child rape, and if you simply think that rape, especially child rape is just simply "stupid" you REALLY ARE dense)
1- losing weight and getting rid of acne are not masking your appearance. if you lose 50 lbs and naturally obtain the clearest skin you've ever had then that is the way YOU look. you can take a bath and scrub every inch of your body and face clean of everything that isn't your own skin and hair and by the time your done you look in the mirror and see how you really look and it's your actual appearance. you can't say the same about girls like this who require makeup. if they make themselves up like this and look in a mirror before a bath, they will see 1 person. they clean their face off and they'll see someone different afterward. having to make yourself look like someone you aren't is stupid because they have to be someone else to feel good. it's pathetic and stupid that they can't just feel good about themselves as themselves
2- i never said rape was "simply stupid" and it is not. is plenty of other things and there is a cacophony of words to describe what it is and what it entails. you are pointing out things i never said, like saying i said that rape can only be described as "stupid". that is something i never said
2- i never said rape was "simply stupid" and it is not. is plenty of other things and there is a cacophony of words to describe what it is and what it entails. you are pointing out things i never said, like saying i said that rape can only be described as "stupid". that is something i never said
1) If people didn't initially like the way they look then they would choose not to change anything about themselves is the point, they would stay fat, men wouldn't get hair growth treatment, middle aged women wouldn't dye their hair when they gray, nobody would wear makeup. If you don't like the way you look currently, then you make a change, if you wearing tons of makeup makes you feel good about how you look then go for it, if turning your bald head into a full head of hair makes you feel good do it. There is nothing stupid about doing what you need to feel good about yourself.
2) And thank you for proving my point.... rape is NOT simply stupid, like some would think that wearing tons of makeup to feel good about yourself is just simply stupid. Rape IS NOT comparable to it, you just proved my point flawlessly thank you.
2) And thank you for proving my point.... rape is NOT simply stupid, like some would think that wearing tons of makeup to feel good about yourself is just simply stupid. Rape IS NOT comparable to it, you just proved my point flawlessly thank you.
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ishouldplayzelda (07/07/2012) [-]
well this is where opinions come into play. it's not a fact that what you say is true. it is your opinion that people who have to change themselves to feel good with themselves are not stupid. it is my opinion that they are insecure and stupid
as for proving you right, i did no such thing. just because rape is stupid (AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL), doesn't mean that because that applies to makeup that it also cancels it out. rape is stupid. so is makeup. that's all that matters in this. just because they're also other things doesn't mean those other things should be brought into the analogy. rape is stupid. makeup is also stupid, therefore the analogy works. what would you have used as a comparison if you'd been the one to comment on facebook instead of that guy?
as for proving you right, i did no such thing. just because rape is stupid (AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL), doesn't mean that because that applies to makeup that it also cancels it out. rape is stupid. so is makeup. that's all that matters in this. just because they're also other things doesn't mean those other things should be brought into the analogy. rape is stupid. makeup is also stupid, therefore the analogy works. what would you have used as a comparison if you'd been the one to comment on facebook instead of that guy?
No you proved it perfectly, while yes the first may be opinion, you saying the second one is not simply stupid just proved my point.
While some may think applying makeup to feel better may be stupid, everyone (besides the rapist) thinks that child rape is not only stupid, it's wrong, it's harmful to the child, it's sick, and it's a terrible thing for a child to go through. While NONE of those apply to a someone going to extremes to change their looks.... the two are like black and white, two different things, making the joke a bad one and a very very unfunny one at that.
Thanks for proving my point.
While some may think applying makeup to feel better may be stupid, everyone (besides the rapist) thinks that child rape is not only stupid, it's wrong, it's harmful to the child, it's sick, and it's a terrible thing for a child to go through. While NONE of those apply to a someone going to extremes to change their looks.... the two are like black and white, two different things, making the joke a bad one and a very very unfunny one at that.
Thanks for proving my point.
you're still missing the point, almost going out of your way to. "that was a stupid thing they did" can be said about both. that is the point. i don't know how it can be any clearer. not taking into consideration anything else the two things can be is how you too can understand why the analogy works. forget everything else they can be. they're both stupid things to do. that is literally the only thing you are required to know and the only thing you should be considering to understand it.
also, you're wrong about everyone seeing rape as bad. what about other rapists? i'm fairly certain when 1 rapist sees a news story about another rapist being arrested, he does not think bad of him. rapists understand rapists and therefore do not condemn them for their actions
also, you're wrong about everyone seeing rape as bad. what about other rapists? i'm fairly certain when 1 rapist sees a news story about another rapist being arrested, he does not think bad of him. rapists understand rapists and therefore do not condemn them for their actions
I'm sorry you're a sincerely disturbed individual that you can make a comparison to a woman slapping on tons of makeup to a man raping a child.
I didn't have to go out of my way to prove my point, as I said before, you proved my point for me, I didn't have to do any work on my own. YOU are the one going out of your way to justify how you think the two are even remotely alike....
I also think it's great you consider the opinions of rapists and child molesters, you are truly a saint dumbass. I guess because you don't seem to care about child molestation and can find a comparison between makeup and child rape and you care about opinions of the scum of the earth (even people convicted of murder see child molesters as the worst kinds of people) maybe you are for child molestation? I mean it's the only thing I can come up with when someone says they can see a comparison between someone trying to hard to look attractive and child rape.... put a front up all you want, but you are truly a sick individual, and my statement is even more clear now, you lack brain cells.
I really don't want to be talking to the scum of the earth anymore, I find it sick you can compare the destruction of a kids childhood to an orange spray tan. Wow... just wow.... take a hard look at yourself you sick fuck.
I didn't have to go out of my way to prove my point, as I said before, you proved my point for me, I didn't have to do any work on my own. YOU are the one going out of your way to justify how you think the two are even remotely alike....
I also think it's great you consider the opinions of rapists and child molesters, you are truly a saint dumbass. I guess because you don't seem to care about child molestation and can find a comparison between makeup and child rape and you care about opinions of the scum of the earth (even people convicted of murder see child molesters as the worst kinds of people) maybe you are for child molestation? I mean it's the only thing I can come up with when someone says they can see a comparison between someone trying to hard to look attractive and child rape.... put a front up all you want, but you are truly a sick individual, and my statement is even more clear now, you lack brain cells.
I really don't want to be talking to the scum of the earth anymore, I find it sick you can compare the destruction of a kids childhood to an orange spray tan. Wow... just wow.... take a hard look at yourself you sick fuck.
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ishouldplayzelda (07/07/2012) [-]
they have 1 alike attribute but many that are not alike. pretty much every single thing i can think of has similar and dissimilar attributes. how does that prove your point? if anything, all that proves is that nothing can truly be compared because everything has dissimilarities.
once again you are claiming things about me that are not true. for one, you say i care about rapists and child molesters after i merely pointed out that they share similar views on the crimes they commit. you are a fucking idiot. you said "everyone (besides the rapist) thinks that child rape is not only stupid, it's wrong, it's harmful to the child, it's sick, and it's a terrible thing for a child to go through". i agree it is all of those things, but as i pointed out, not everyone thinks that about it. i think it's awful. rapists do not think it's awful. that is a fact. how does that convey that i sympathize with child molesters and rapists? it doesn't.
i'm not the one who needs to take a look at myself. you are the one blowing this entire thing out of proportion and getting butthurt over a simple analogy which is not affecting anyone but the people who have such a fit over it. people like you
please do us all a favor. make like hades and chill the fuck out
once again you are claiming things about me that are not true. for one, you say i care about rapists and child molesters after i merely pointed out that they share similar views on the crimes they commit. you are a fucking idiot. you said "everyone (besides the rapist) thinks that child rape is not only stupid, it's wrong, it's harmful to the child, it's sick, and it's a terrible thing for a child to go through". i agree it is all of those things, but as i pointed out, not everyone thinks that about it. i think it's awful. rapists do not think it's awful. that is a fact. how does that convey that i sympathize with child molesters and rapists? it doesn't.
i'm not the one who needs to take a look at myself. you are the one blowing this entire thing out of proportion and getting butthurt over a simple analogy which is not affecting anyone but the people who have such a fit over it. people like you
please do us all a favor. make like hades and chill the fuck out
I'm not going to read what you have to say, because you can not justify what you have already said.
You think that ruining a child's life and a woman putting on too much makeup is the same kind of thing, and comparable....
You find humor in a joke that is in no way humorous because the two things are completely and utterly different, while one harms no one, another ruins a life of a child and of the family of the child. You find humor in it because you think those two things are similar... so I won't be reading anything you say, you are sick, I hope you get help.
You think that ruining a child's life and a woman putting on too much makeup is the same kind of thing, and comparable....
You find humor in a joke that is in no way humorous because the two things are completely and utterly different, while one harms no one, another ruins a life of a child and of the family of the child. You find humor in it because you think those two things are similar... so I won't be reading anything you say, you are sick, I hope you get help.
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ishouldplayzelda (07/07/2012) [-]
alright then. since you won't be reading this (or so you claim), this is for anyone outside of us who has read our debate and wants proper closure from me who is still cool-headed and reasonable.
i've read every point you've posed even though i've disagreed with most of the things you've said and now you're going to ignore what i say because you're too butthurt. good for you.
they are not comparable acts. the fact that they're both stupid things that people do is. that was my point this entire time and you still don't understand that. good for you
refer to the last line-break. they are not similar acts. the fact that they're both stupid things that people do makes that aspect of them comparable. if you truly want this to be over, do not reply because i will in turn
lastly, i will just leave this candidly-captured image of you here so that everyone may see what you were doing when you thought up that last reply
i've read every point you've posed even though i've disagreed with most of the things you've said and now you're going to ignore what i say because you're too butthurt. good for you.
they are not comparable acts. the fact that they're both stupid things that people do is. that was my point this entire time and you still don't understand that. good for you
refer to the last line-break. they are not similar acts. the fact that they're both stupid things that people do makes that aspect of them comparable. if you truly want this to be over, do not reply because i will in turn
lastly, i will just leave this candidly-captured image of you here so that everyone may see what you were doing when you thought up that last reply
I guess since you keep responding I'll just have to copy and past what I said before.....
I'm not going to read what you have to say, because you can not justify what you have already said.
You think that ruining a child's life and a woman putting on too much makeup is the same kind of thing, and comparable....
You find humor in a joke that is in no way humorous because the two things are completely and utterly different, while one harms no one, another ruins a life of a child and of the family of the child. You find humor in it because you think those two things are similar... so I won't be reading anything you say, you are sick, I hope you get help.
I'm not going to read what you have to say, because you can not justify what you have already said.
You think that ruining a child's life and a woman putting on too much makeup is the same kind of thing, and comparable....
You find humor in a joke that is in no way humorous because the two things are completely and utterly different, while one harms no one, another ruins a life of a child and of the family of the child. You find humor in it because you think those two things are similar... so I won't be reading anything you say, you are sick, I hope you get help.
I guess you don't seem to understand, I don't care about what you say, or what you have to say on anything.
You think child rape is the same as someone putting makeup on.... again I'll repeat
I'm not going to read what you have to say, because you can not justify what you have already said.
You think that ruining a child's life and a woman putting on too much makeup is the same kind of thing, and comparable....
You find humor in a joke that is in no way humorous because the two things are completely and utterly different, while one harms no one, another ruins a life of a child and of the family of the child. You find humor in it because you think those two things are similar... so I won't be reading anything you say, you are sick, I hope you get help.
You think child rape is the same as someone putting makeup on.... again I'll repeat
I'm not going to read what you have to say, because you can not justify what you have already said.
You think that ruining a child's life and a woman putting on too much makeup is the same kind of thing, and comparable....
You find humor in a joke that is in no way humorous because the two things are completely and utterly different, while one harms no one, another ruins a life of a child and of the family of the child. You find humor in it because you think those two things are similar... so I won't be reading anything you say, you are sick, I hope you get help.
ouch! that red thumb really hurt, seeing as how you and i are the only ones even here anymore so it doesn't even matter.
again, i do not think they are the same thing. if you ever pull your head out of your ass, you can read what i said about it on comment #465. i don't even know why i'm doing this anymore. clearly you've lost the argument or else would wouldn't feel the need to stick your fucking fingers in your ears and copypasta the same reply over and over. your insolence is incredible. i wonder how old you even are. 10? 12? come on, you can't be that old. that's far too mature an age
again, i do not think they are the same thing. if you ever pull your head out of your ass, you can read what i said about it on comment #465. i don't even know why i'm doing this anymore. clearly you've lost the argument or else would wouldn't feel the need to stick your fucking fingers in your ears and copypasta the same reply over and over. your insolence is incredible. i wonder how old you even are. 10? 12? come on, you can't be that old. that's far too mature an age
No, it isn't a joke if it isn't funny... it would be funny if the two things were somewhat comparable, but the two are not in the least... it's a very unintelligent post with a very unintelligent comment, that's all, there is no joke. Jokes require at least SOME intelligence behind them, this is saying that a woman putting on makeup because it makes her feel good which hurts nobody is the same as someone hurting a child because it makes them feel good..... how is that a joke? How is that funny? Please, enlighten me because I haven't a fucking clue how the two are funny, maybe if the guy put a little THOUGHT and EFFORT into his response it could have been funny, but he just blew smoke out of his ass...