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#162 - ThatDeadGuy (07/06/2012) [-]
People seem to give Justin Bieber shit because they're jumping on bandwagons. I just dislike that he said he was the Kurt Cobain of our generation, other than that I have nothing against him.
User avatar #193 to #162 - cadencee ONLINE (07/06/2012) [-]
I hate all teenage artists. They are one of the main reasons why the quality of music has fallen so far in the last 5 - 10 years.
#196 to #193 - rottengrits **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Quality of music is an opinion not fact
#205 to #196 - sethll (07/06/2012) [-]
so you like today's music
so you like today's music
#207 to #205 - rottengrits **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
I like some of today's music, I'm not immature and instantly hate everything new like a 12 year old trying to fit in
User avatar #431 to #207 - cadencee ONLINE (07/07/2012) [-]
"Like a 12 year old trying to fit in"

That doesn't make any sense, a 12 year old trying to fit in would like todays music.

Also i don't hate everything but the overall quality is terrible, I know it is an opinion, that does not mean it is not fact.

#432 to #431 - rottengrits **User deleted account** (07/07/2012) [-]
No you sound like a kid trying to fit in with the older generation by bashing the new one.

It's not fact. At all. Never will be. Ever. Understand the simple concept? Good. The overall quality can never be "bad" because it's opinion. Most artists you probably think are shit have millions of fans. And trust me it isn't because your "exquisite" taste in music is so much better than all those people.
User avatar #433 to #432 - cadencee ONLINE (07/07/2012) [-]
Fact can be subject to the individual. That is why there are so many religions. Opinions become fact when you become so adamant in your opinion that it is virtually unchangeable. I prefer old music, it doesn't mean that i want to "fit in" lol.
#434 to #433 - rottengrits **User deleted account** (07/07/2012) [-]
Fact: knowledge or information based on real occurrences

Facts are indisputably true. They can't be subject to the individual, that's not even remotely right. Religion is a terrible example since they're not factual. Opinions never and will never become fact by any means. If your opinion is unchangeable then it's still just an opinion that's can't be changed. I can't just automatically decide my eyes are brown when they aren't, become adamant that they are, and poof it's now a new fact that they are brown. The fact is still the same, they aren't brown. No matter what I decide to think.
User avatar #435 to #434 - cadencee ONLINE (07/07/2012) [-]
That is cool and all but it really doesn't matter. I'm not sure what you are attempting to achieve but alot of todays music that everyone seems to love it terrible. That is all, this conversation about the difference between fact and opinion is really reaally boring so i am ending it.
#436 to #435 - rottengrits **User deleted account** (07/07/2012) [-]
What I'm trying to achieve is correcting your mistake. You started the conversation by saying something, then being wrong about it.

And if everyone loves it, it probably isn't terrible is it?
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