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#139 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Go ahead and call me a christfag whatever but aye..you actually can touch god and it takes faith. Go ahead and make all the jokes you want but aye, errybody has their right to speak their mind so long as it dosent offend anyone :P so thats just my thoughts...
#240 to #139 - CXJokerXD (07/06/2012) [-]
I am not religious, but I wouldn't call myself an atheist. I am open to things and I will tolerate people's religions as long as they don't force it on people, let it influence decisions that can effect others, take life in the name of it (as it has done countless times through out history), shoot down gays, get involved in politics, or tell people how to live as it usually does. Just to name a few things. However I think what you claim to feel isn't god, but your mind wanting to believe in something so much that the excitement of thinking that a loving god is some how connected to you and is watching over you, giving you a feeling of security and assurance so then your body reacts in unique ways to where your mind only sees it as a religious/magical sign or connection. This may be more than you would've been bargaining for, but that's kind of what you get when posting about religion.
I am not religious, but I wouldn't call myself an atheist. I am open to things and I will tolerate people's religions as long as they don't force it on people, let it influence decisions that can effect others, take life in the name of it (as it has done countless times through out history), shoot down gays, get involved in politics, or tell people how to live as it usually does. Just to name a few things. However I think what you claim to feel isn't god, but your mind wanting to believe in something so much that the excitement of thinking that a loving god is some how connected to you and is watching over you, giving you a feeling of security and assurance so then your body reacts in unique ways to where your mind only sees it as a religious/magical sign or connection. This may be more than you would've been bargaining for, but that's kind of what you get when posting about religion.
User avatar #242 to #240 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Well people here are freaking out like i insulted them by stating that i have faith :/ kinda sad..and ill admit it got me purdy dayum rustled and respect your thoughts. Ive heard that one before and it makes a lot of sence. But to me its not based on just making myself feel good.once again,its rooted with Faith. thank you for calmly stating your opinion without telling me mine is ******** because it cant be proven
User avatar #228 to #139 - winners (07/06/2012) [-]
are you one of those people that put their hands in the air when praying in church?
User avatar #233 to #228 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Nah :P not my thing
User avatar #223 to #139 - saxophan (07/06/2012) [-]
That's cool, no problem.
User avatar #225 to #223 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
oh god finally!someone who isent butthurt haha
User avatar #207 to #139 - somethingfunny (07/06/2012) [-]
when you said "aye" i started reading it in a pirate voice
User avatar #208 to #207 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
lol its all chill
User avatar #175 to #139 - fabledmocker **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Perhaps if you used proper grammar I would be more inclined to partake in a logical debate, but then again, reading the below conversations it seems that it is very improbable that you will debate this like a gentleman.

User avatar #178 to #175 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Like a gentleman? theres no reason to have a debate. You have your thoughts and I have mine. Feel free to express them just dont bash against my thoughts.
User avatar #182 to #178 - fabledmocker **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
You just posted a picture saying how I 'need' Jesus.

That's like me telling you that you NEED to stop having imaginary friends.

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User avatar #197 to #195 - fabledmocker **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
I am attempting to prove a point. I read the previous conversations, I assure you.
User avatar #184 to #182 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
its a joke -_- its up to you to choose what you accept. Just dont be an asshole about it.
User avatar #190 to #184 - fabledmocker **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
I'm not being an asshole, in fact, by your own logic you're the asshole in this situation.

You're the only one who has been rude throughout this conversation while I'm trying debate peacefully.

Are you so insecure in your religion that your constitution falls with simple words so you have to hide behind rudeness?

I'm actually a Christian and I was playing the devil's advocate and I have to say, that's pretty pathetic.

You give intelligent Christians a rather sour reputation.
User avatar #194 to #190 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
what did i do that was rude im sorry that i offended but honestly all i said was for people to accept the belief of others whats so ****** offensive and rude about that?please point out how i was being rude so i can try and understand and apologize
User avatar #202 to #194 - fabledmocker **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Perhaps you shouldn't curse as much and start with some common manners.

Then perhaps you can see the error of your ways.

I have no problems with your beliefs but I do have a problem ill manners.
User avatar #206 to #202 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
the cursing, the cursing was due to the fact that i was obviously russled by the rudness of rottengrits. my comment was about acceptance and the first thing he says is to get butthurt about my comment
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User avatar #224 to #213 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Oh lord, listen Rottengrits the whole reason im not arguing my belifs with you is because all you wanna do is fight with me about it. We could sit here and argue for ****** years and NEITHER of us would have a changed opinion. I could be a dayum Catholic scholor and you wouldnt change your mind and you know it so theirs no point in the argument.
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User avatar #210 to #206 - fabledmocker **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Perhaps you should keep your beliefs to yourself if you are not ready to back them up. Rottengrits had a valid point and a valid argument. Instead of talking to him like a gentleman, you cowered behind ignorance.

Just accept that you were acting like an 'asshole'.

User avatar #227 to #210 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Theres no way for me to back them up and no i really wasent being an asshole. All i was saying is we should just accept eachothers thoughts and ideas and just move on like its no big deal and all he did was try and make it a big deal by starting an argument -_- the reason im not defending my ideas very well is because it dosent matter how hard i defend them. His thoughts would never change. No matter what. and thats a fact.
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User avatar #235 to #231 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Its true. Relgion is based on Faith. To you, theres no way to prove it. And their isent. You cant prove religion without having Faith thats it. And you feel soooo smart because I cant explain faith in religion. A Religious scholar could talk to u untill hes blue in the face but you would never change your opinion because you cant. Your heart and mind is set on your own thoughts and ideas and nobody can change that. If you dont have Faith than you dont have Faith its plain and simple. So to me, all this was, was just getting mad that i have Faith and cant explain why I believe is right. Why cant you just accept that "ok he has his own thoughts and ill leave him be"...
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User avatar #204 to #201 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
the reason i was rude to you is because my comment was all about ACCEPTANCE -_- and you had a problem with that so it russled my jimmies. Re-read your first comment, go ahead and tell me if that sounds accepting.
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User avatar #221 to #220 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
It is related because your intolerant to the idea of having a god because you find it to be "childish" and untrue. Just because you dont find it to be true dosent mean you have to question people in such a manner stating facts like "its not real nope nope nope"
#154 to #139 - twilightdusk (07/06/2012) [-]
did you really just type "errybody"?
User avatar #158 to #154 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
yup.
#150 to #139 - freebirdkid (07/06/2012) [-]
I am an Atheist who doesn't care about what others believe, I do get a little frustrated about the amount of religion in politics, foreign policy, abortions, God bless America, booyah booyah. But how could all religions be right? according to the religion they are the only true religion, so who is right? there is a crap shoot about picking the religion that is 'right'. When you step back and look at religion as a whole, it doesn't add up... thumb for you for being a believer, I sometimes wish I had something more to believe in, but you can't believe in something you don't...
#155 to #150 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Well to be honest you dont need to argue about what religion is the right religion.  I believe that my religion is the true religion and thats all that matters.  I dont giv a 						****					 what \other people believe haha so theres no point in that.  Its all about what you believe in your heart my friend.
Well to be honest you dont need to argue about what religion is the right religion. I believe that my religion is the true religion and thats all that matters. I dont giv a **** what \other people believe haha so theres no point in that. Its all about what you believe in your heart my friend.
#176 to #155 - funmanigro (07/06/2012) [-]
Luke 4:8 "'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'"   
John 14:28 "the Father is greater than I"   
Acts 5:29 "Peter and the other apostles replied: “We must obey God rather than human beings!"   
Mark 12:29 "‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one"   
   
also in Armenian (the original language of the bible), the word "father" (the reason Christians think that jesus is god's son) is "հայր" in Armenian, "հայր" also mean "sire" or "governor", so the translation kinda messed things up.
Luke 4:8 "'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'"
John 14:28 "the Father is greater than I"
Acts 5:29 "Peter and the other apostles replied: “We must obey God rather than human beings!"
Mark 12:29 "‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one"

also in Armenian (the original language of the bible), the word "father" (the reason Christians think that jesus is god's son) is "հայր" in Armenian, "հայր" also mean "sire" or "governor", so the translation kinda messed things up.
#180 to #176 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Ok?that just further proves my point. Its up to you to decide what is right to you. I dont see why im dumb for believing in something..
#183 to #180 - funmanigro (07/06/2012) [-]
because the bible says that jesus isnt god, but you say that jesus is god because the bible says so. dafuq.
User avatar #188 to #183 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Thats not even what i said im just talking about choosing what you want to believe and that whatever you choose to believe should be accepted by others gosh errybodys pissed off af at me -_- all i did was express my opinion without even bashing anyone elses thoughts and errybodys like "NOPE **** YOU, YOUR A CHRISTIAN! LEMME SHOVE MY THOUGHTS DOWN YOUR THROAT BC UR DUMB AND UNEDUCATED" :/ i didnt mean to hurt anyones ****** feelings seriously. I dont know what i said to offend anybody all i smell is butt hurt
#191 to #188 - funmanigro (07/06/2012) [-]
i jsut want to know, if the bible itsself says that jesus isnt god, why do you say teh opposite?
i jsut want to know, if the bible itsself says that jesus isnt god, why do you say teh opposite?
User avatar #196 to #191 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
when did i say jesus was god?
#292 to #196 - petal (07/06/2012) [-]
um, YOU DID, when you said you are a CHRISTian?!
um, YOU DID, when you said you are a CHRISTian?!
#199 to #196 - funmanigro (07/06/2012) [-]
according to the church, jesus, the holy spirit and jesus are god somehow
User avatar #200 to #199 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
In a way yes. Why should that matter to you when you dont believe in it :P sorry if im being rude
#214 to #200 - funmanigro (07/06/2012) [-]
im not that kind that shoves stuff up your mouth, but i seriously dont understand it.... also whats the holy spirit? a human? an animal? an angel? what is it job? what has it done? does it go to heaven?
User avatar #218 to #214 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
well ill try and explain it the best way i can because i am not an expert in religion. Now the holy trinity (The father, Spirit, and the holy ghost) is something rooted into faith so its essentially something your either believe or you dont believe. but i will try and explain it. Jesus Christ is the only son of god. They are not the same entity but Jesus Christ is the only one blessed by god with godlike power. Once again this is very hard to explain and that is a question pondered over many a century haha. Oh and the holy ghost is the form of Christ after his resurrection on the third day.I hope that helped although it prolly didnt sorry :/
#234 to #218 - funmanigro (07/06/2012) [-]
so what you're saying is that god died
User avatar #237 to #234 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
no. Resurrected. and Jesus isent the same entity as god. Look like i said its very hard to explain this without having faith. Jesus was basically god on earth, in a human form i guess you could say. A human body can die but it was resurrected. God can not die. Im sorry im not a huge catholic scholar so i cant answer the question correctly but even a scholar or priest would tell you the same thing that you need faith.
#244 to #237 - funmanigro (07/06/2012) [-]
but to be ressurected, he must die first. and wtf man? you just said that jesus is in the trinity, aka god?
User avatar #245 to #244 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
your not taking in everything im saying..And yes, his body did die,it was dead for three days and was ressurected. but as i said in the first paragraoph, they are not the same entity.its very hard to explain im sorry. you just have to have faith.
#250 to #245 - funmanigro (07/06/2012) [-]
im sorry but this is all complicated, god being one with no son, and jesus being a messenger is much easier to swallow.
User avatar #251 to #250 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
whatever floats your boat. im sorry i couldnt be helpfull.
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User avatar #146 to #145 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Its obvious your parents didnt raise you well enough to respect another persons beliefs, meaning ill respect yours and you should respect mine. You cant PROVE the big bang so your in the same dayum boat too -_-
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#217 to #151 - funmanigro (07/06/2012) [-]
im Muslim and i know its hard to believe, but i believe that the big bang happened and evolution is true, John William Draper (1811-1882CE), the 19th century scientist, philosopher, chemist, historian, photographer, physician and a contemporary to Charles Darwin (1809-1882 CE) was well acquainted with Muslim thought on the theory of evolution.

“Theological authorities were therefore constrained to look with disfavour on any attempt to carry back the origin of the earth, to an epoch indefinitely remote, and on the Mohammedan theory of the evolution of man from lower forms, or his gradual development to his present condition in the long lapse of time”

"And indeed, He created you in diverse stages" -Quran, 71:14
"And God has produced you from the earth growing (from minerals, the origin of evolution)" -Quran, 71:17
"Do they not see the earth, how many of every noble kind We have caused to grow in it?" Quran, 26:7
"It is He Who has produced you from the earth and settled you therein" Quran, 11:61

"Do not those who disbelieve see that the heavens and the earth were closed up, but We have opened them; and We have made of water everything living, will they not then believe?" Quran, 21:30 it is a fact that no biological reaction can happen without the presence of water


im not that man that holds you in the corner saying "HE IS YOUR LOOORD!!! YOU SHALL OBEY HIM!!", no, "Remind them, for you are just a remembrancer, you are not at all a warder over them." Quran, 88:21-22
#161 to #151 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Ha if there was no evidence then there wouldnt be a religion. Listen calm your Jimmies first off young blood bc u flyin off the handle. If we gunna have a discussion than its a discussion. As for evidence, we have Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was living evidence. Now as for calling Christianity a "Childish Belief" go **** yourself -_- you dont ****** say that to ANY religion. That just shows pure intolerance. Im aware what an Atheist is, but the majority of Atheists believe in the Big Bang Theory because it tries to prove creation through science.
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User avatar #166 to #165 - latinotornado (07/06/2012) [-]
Your one rustled up lil **** aint ya haha Tell ya wut young blood, you have fun their believing what you believe but how bout you leave errybody else alone that has a belief because it just makes you look bad blurting out your intolerance for other religions -- If the big bang theory is sooooo solid than why is it not national news?because nobody can prove it. Yea theres science in their to a point but that dosent make it real -- just grow up kid seriously..
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