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#417 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Well some Christians believe that they got saved by the doctors in time because God still wanted them here.
They could have not made it in time, they could have gotten a doctor who messed up, they could have died instantly, or any other circumstance that would place them in a situation of being dead.
I think Christians are thanking God for putting them in a situation where they survive.
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#439 to #437 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
I would rather be alive and in pain than dead.
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#455 to #453 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Perhaps. But the bible also says that God wouldn't give us challenges we couldn't face, so perhaps the accident is a test of faith. Some people can handle more than others, and these are the people God can use the most.
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#471 to #457 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
God is a higher being than us. If you had absolute power over the world, what would you do with it? If you knew everything, how would you use that power? Can you do a better job than God, and still make it so people need you?
Trying to explain God to people who don't believe in him is like trying to explain color to a person who has been blind from birth. If you don't believe in a higher power, than trying to figure out why people get up on Sunday's to learn about and worship something you don't even believe exists wouldn't make any sense.
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#477 to #472 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Also, would you make a world, just to watch a bunch of people mosey about? We were created to worship God. Maybe you could do a better job, but you don't know that. Everyone who is below thinks they can do a better job than those above, but everything will be perfect in heaven. Earth is just there to decide who deserves to belong, and who doesn't.
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#478 to #477 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Sorry, I switched thoughts in the middle of that. I sincerely apologize.
#476 to #472 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Really? So you could be the sole decider of right and wrong. You have the ultimate knowledge of all the evils of man, and you yourself could make things better for everyone. You could spend time and effort creating the world, giving man everything he could ever want, and making things effortless. God did all this in the beginning, but he also gave man free will, and you know what man did with that free will? He used it to do the one thing that he shouldn't have, which is directly sinning against God.
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#510 to #499 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
If you had 100 children, and most of them didn't even believe you were there to help them, would you help them over others who want you to help them?
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#515 to #514 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
No, I mean everyone needs help, all at once. Do you help all of them? If you did, what would be the point of anyone caring about you? Do you want to be isolated from everyone?
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#521 to #519 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
That's based on what you believe humans are. I believe humans are evil, selfish creatures, who only by being raised to believe something different can change. I believe even if you gave humans everything, they would still want more.
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#530 to #522 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/07/2012) [-]
No. I consider all humans evil selfish creatures. Christians included. Yes, there is something wrong with people still wanting more. Because no matter how much you have there will always be something missing. Maybe it's human nature, maybe it's because that missing thing is God. Maybe you could do it a different way, but that doesn't make it better.
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#441 to #439 - 4chan refugee (07/06/2012) [-]
i rather die and free then be alive and in pain and on my knee's
#425 to #417 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
I'm not entirely sure about atheists who survive, but I assume it's just the luck of the draw for them.
#424 to #417 - LifeVirusZERO (07/06/2012) [-]
we know that, but god also gave us free will, the people that saved said person could have just been like "naw, **** that"
#426 to #424 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
But God may have put someone there who would do the right thing. Or it could be random. All I know is that the Bible says that God determines the time and the place in which Christians die.
User avatar #427 to #426 - LifeVirusZERO (07/06/2012) [-]
and that is what makes this entire concept flawed
#429 to #427 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
God knows everything that you are going to do, but you are deciding what you are going to do. It isn't determined for you, but it's still destined to happen.

There is a difference for being destined for something, and have that destiny be determined for you.
User avatar #432 to #429 - RandomAnonGuy (07/06/2012) [-]
Not... really. If something is destined to happen, but the way it happens isn't specified, I agree. But if you're going to say that God put the exact right people in the exact right place at the exact right time, knowing in advance what they would do, that's not free will.
#433 to #432 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Hmm. Do you decide to live or die? Is it just random? It's comforting to think that there is a God at there, and there also isn't any consequences to believing in him, so that's what I believe. I don't know all the answers, I'm a very new Christian. I wish I knew more about things, but I only know the basics. Sorry.
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#456 to #438 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Well you don't have to spend money, that's an optional thing, and how much do you help people in your life?
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#469 to #458 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
Just give me a rough estimate. Are you saying Christians don't help people?
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#474 to #470 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
I could rant all day about prayer, and fulfilled things in the lives of people in my church and in my life. But lets say that it's all chance. Is the time praying really worthless compared to spending time on funnyjunk? Perhaps. Do some people like doing one more than the other? Definitely. I seriously doubt that a lot of funnyjunkers go around helping people.
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#491 to #490 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
I spend indeterminable hours surfing funnyjunk and hardly even laughing. At least I get some sort of comfort from praying, whether manufactured or real. I barely talk to people, and most of my comments are attempts to be funny, and work only half the time.
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#511 to #496 - justthisonepost **User deleted account** (07/06/2012) [-]
I agree.
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