Obamacare

I thought the Canadian health insurance system was funded by public taxes and provided by the Gov't. Though not ideal, I would rather have a system like that.

That is called a socialist health care. We're going to be socialists.

actually, you're right. i got confused about that. Yes, it is funded by taxes, and the govt uses those taxes to fund the healthcare system.

Always open to debate, source?

I get to choose my doctor. If we switch to Obama-care, I won't be able to choose my doctor for my son or myself. I have one of the best doctors in California and I take my son to the best pediatrician in the county. I only pay $25 for each visit. I have a right to choose my doctor but now I won't be able to, I'll just get some random asshole I'll probably have to sue for malpractice.

I live in germany and my brother has a lung-desaese (sry if bad english)

he is ill and he would die without his medicine he needs !every day! We couldnt pay this, but because my dads pays some percent of his income every month, the medicine for him is bought by the health insurance

In your case it seems to have worked out for the best, but look at it this way. I live paycheck to paycheck, I work 2 jobs and can barely afford rent and food. I'm young and healthy, I rarely go to the doc. When I do, I pay my bills with the money I have managed to save or help from family. If this bill passes, my financial situation will get even worse.

Maybe for some people having to pay %1 or %2 of their income is fine. However here in America where you need to have 2 jobs just to get by, that's a huge hit and will push people further into poverty.

I see that it is hard for you to pay and you are healthy but think of the posibility that you are suddenly ill and somehow need an surgery (again my english is bad dont know if this is the right word)

It will cost you all in all more than 10000 dollars (food and bed in hospital, the surgery itself and the tests and therapies after it)

woudlnt it be cheaper to pay about 100 dollars(dont know what the actual number will be) every month for you AND your future wife/husband and kids?

If I had to pay 100 dollars a month right now, I would be on the street, living in a box. Which would most likely lead to me losing both my jobs. Once I hit rock bottom and no longer have income, then I get free health care. But God forbid I ever get above the line again, BOOM, happens all over again. That is not even an exaggeration. There are a LOT of people in the same situation, or worse. I wish to continue this discussion, but I have to go to work. I will check back on this later.


Also, don't worry about your English, it sure as hell is better then my German!

I dont know what you get payed and what an amrican needs for living but this whole system sadly is only fair when all people pay the same percentage and start to pay when they get a job.

In Germany you get payed an flat and 300 € if u havent got a job, and the people who have a job pay this by a tax but when u lose your job you get the same help, a fair system at all just wanted to say :/

garanteed flat, money and medical insurrance, thats germany.
some poor, some rich, but the most people are in the middle

In the USA, its what i think, are many poor and many rich people but not many people in the middle

it's not a fair system, i'm german myself, it's fair for 99% but there is just a huge ammount of jobless people who don't have the slightets interrest in finding a job and just live from social money (Hartz IV)

I know this myself, thats the only bad part in that. anyway its just the money you need for living, no luxury for people who dont work