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#167 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
I want the Cold War to still be raging.

It was a time of mystery with all the espionage and secrets.

Also the USSR was very mysterious since it was the most secretive nation, not knowing what was going on behind the Iron Curtain and even then what was happening behind the closed doors of the Iron Curtain.

I would've liked to be a KGB agent, getting in on all the awesome secret information.
#174 to #167 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
Most secretive nation? I'd have to give that one to North Korea.
#177 to #174 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
The USSR has since split.
User avatar #178 to #177 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
yeah, in the early 1990s, North Korea has been a censored, communist country since the early 1900s.
#180 to #178 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
"North Korea has been a censored, communist country since the early 1900s."

Wait wut
#184 to #180 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
What's not to get about that? you realize north korea is communist, right? And that the censorship there is more powerful than anywhere else in the world, right? Ok, well that has been going on since before the USSR collapsed.
#189 to #184 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
Correction, the picture is you...

You do realize North Korea has been communist since 1948, not 1900 like you claimed.

Retard.
#190 to #189 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
When did I say 1900? I said the early 1900s, did you even read what I said? god damn dude, you even re-typed what i said.... And even if I did say 1900, that wasn't the point of my original comment anyway... you said "Also the USSR was very mysterious since it was the most secretive nation", which, i respectfully disagreed and came back with North Korea. Either way you're wrong, no need to act like an asshole.   
   
Retard.
When did I say 1900? I said the early 1900s, did you even read what I said? god damn dude, you even re-typed what i said.... And even if I did say 1900, that wasn't the point of my original comment anyway... you said "Also the USSR was very mysterious since it was the most secretive nation", which, i respectfully disagreed and came back with North Korea. Either way you're wrong, no need to act like an asshole.

Retard.
#191 to #190 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
Early 1900's? You're still retarded.   
   
How is 1948 early 1900's?   
   
When I said USSR was the most secretive, obviously I was talking about when it existed. North Korea was never the most secretive when the USSR was around.    
   
You:   
>Claim North Korea was communist in early 1900's   
>Can't distinguish between then and now   
   
Conclusion: Retarded
Early 1900's? You're still retarded.

How is 1948 early 1900's?

When I said USSR was the most secretive, obviously I was talking about when it existed. North Korea was never the most secretive when the USSR was around.

You:
>Claim North Korea was communist in early 1900's
>Can't distinguish between then and now

Conclusion: Retarded
User avatar #192 to #191 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
dude....first of all, the communist party of korea was established in the 1920s, so i stand corrected, communism has been around in north korea since the early 1900s.

And you do realized the USSR collapsed about 20 years ago? North Korea was in the same state then as it is today, literally just ******* explained this to you, where did you receive your education? honestly...you are the dumbest ******* person i've ever seen on this site.
#193 to #192 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
North Korea was Communist since 1948

What can't you grasp about that? 1948 =/= early 1900's.

"communism has been around in north korea since the early 1900s." - This does not mean it was a communist country you moron.

The State of the DPRK was not established until 1948

I can honestly tell you're 12 or completely retarded.

All I was saying it while the USSR existed, it was the most secretive state. Which is true.

Now this argument is about when the DPRK formed .. which is 1948 ... which is not early 1900's.

Jesus christ you're dumb
User avatar #194 to #193 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
If the country was communist in the 1940s, and the Cold War lasted from the mid 40s to early 90s, what the **** makes you think that North Korea and the USSR are from different time frames? And what made the USSR the most secretive nation? I've already stated that the North Korea has been completely cut off from the world for decades, now you explain what makes you think the USSR was the most secretive nation?

You can keep name calling and being an asshole, but in between all of that, your wikipedia skills are actually pretty poor, and are making you lose the argument. And anyone who has lived during the Cold War, through the Missile Crisis, will tell you that it wasn't exactly fun.
#195 to #194 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
Wow now you're getting desperate.

DPRK was NOT the most secretive state while the USSR was around. Why? Because Soviet troops were stationed in the DPRK. If you learned history, you would know that the DPRK was pretty much a puppet state of the USSR, receiving large amount of funds and all kinds of support from them. Soviet advisor's and soldiers were stationed in NK. This makes the USSR the head honcho of the DPRK, the USSR knew almost everything that was happening in the DPRK because the Soviets were there telling them how to do it and funding them.

DPRK has only been cut off from the world since the collapse of the USSR because the DPRK and the USSR were allies.

THIS is why the USSR was the most secretive nation, everything about them was behind closed doors within the Iron Curtain ... AND they were pretty much bossing the DPRK around, why would the puppet be more secretive than it's master?

It is YOU who thinks they are of different time frames.

Was the USSR the most secretive nation of it's time = YES = I'm right

Was North Korea communist since 1948 = YES = I'm right

Is 1948 considered to be early 1990's = NO = I'm right

User avatar #197 to #195 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
North Korea was not a member of the Warsaw Pact, it was not a satellite of the USSR. It was not a puppet state of the USSR, although they were allies. You have still yet to prove to me how the USSR is more secretive, yeah, so the 'Iron Curtain' kept everything behind closed doors, guess what? So did the US, Great Britain, and any other powerful nation competing in the Cold War. That is what the war was, that's what it was all about.



"It is YOU who thinks they are of different time frames." Really? Because what you are and have been telling me is contradicting that...

Was the USSR the most secretive nation of it's time? - Stil has not been proved.

Was North Korea communist since 1948? - No one said it wasn't, I simply said communism has been around since the early 1900s.

Is 1948 considered to be early 1990's? - That one is more of an opinion, mid 1990s would be more suitable, but you're splitting hairs here, that wasn't the point of my statement anyway.
#198 to #197 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
Other nations kept things behind closed doors, but more so the USSR. Why? Because in other nations, the media is a separate entity (unless government owned stations). The media in these countries had the ability to uncover and expose their governments, which has lead to prominent politicians resigning.

While in the USSR, the media was state run. So when the politicians got up to dirty work, they could easily cover it up, because the media was controlled by them. So information was not only restricted to outside the communist bloc, but restricted to their own people too. Free information was scarce in the USSR.

And yes, the DPRK was under the influence of the USSR. Soviet advisor's and troops were stationed there. Why do you think it was years after the collapse of the USSR did the DPRK drop references of Communism in their constitution. They changed their ideology to Juche.

These are the main points of our argument:

Secretive nation of it's time = USSR = Correct
North Korea communist since 1948 = Correct
1948 =/= early 1900 = Correct

All these go to me.

And this all started BECAUSE you claimed it was early 1900's, that WAS the main point of your argument. You said it was, I said "what wut" ... then you started spitting out all these ******** history lessons.

This all stemmed from you thinking it was early 1900's.

I also love how you take your time to research Wikipedia before replying, hence the long reply time for such a short comment. While I already know all these information and type it out right away.
User avatar #200 to #198 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
I also like to proofread before posting, so I'm sorry if I'm not typing fast enough for you...
User avatar #199 to #198 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
Ok, first of all, I am honored that you think I'm checking wikipedia and getting stuff from other sites, cause that means you know I'm right, but sadly, I'm not, I'm just not sitting around on this page waiting for a reply, and there is no noise notification when I'm on another tab browsing. I could make the same assumption about you, but I won't because if this whole time I've just been arguing with ******** mixed with wikipedia copy and paste, I'd feel just as dumb as you are.

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, pretty much what you just did in that last comment was explain to me the basics of communism. That was unnecessary. And yes, North Korea was under the influence of the USSR, why wouldn't they be? The USSR was a super power. It was the strongest communist nation in the world. But does that mean it is more secretive?


And dude, I'm not the one who's main argument is the whole 1900s thing, you are. Just scroll up and read my original comment reply to you. Is it not obvious that is my main argument here? This whole early 1900 to mid 1900 thing was your counter-argument, you thought you could make me look dumb by looking up the year it officially turned communist, not facing the fact that it had been developing communism 20 years prior.
#214 to #199 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
Actually I know why. Can you explain why you think NK was the most secretive nation despite the USSR still existing etc..?

Like I said, the argument started BECAUSE you got the mix up. That's all I was ever pointing out. I never cared if you thought NK was more secretive, I was simply pointing out how 1948 is not early 1900's. You still can't grasp that idea can you?

It is YOU who made up the NK debate. I simply stated they weren't communist in the early 1900's, which is correct. You started talking about all this other irrelevant ******** .

In other words, you ****** up, so you created a new argument in hopes of winning at that one.

You also STILL avoid the thumbing down statement, see how right I am about that too?
User avatar #215 to #214 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
"In other words, you ****** up, so you created a new argument in hopes of winning at that one."

Are you kidding me? Are you not reading what I said? I didnt create a new argument, you don't make any ******* sense. That's what my argument was all along. YOU brought up the 1900s thing, it wasn't my decision to talk about that. I would have been just fine since my first reply.

"Most secretive nation? I'd have to give that one to North Korea."

That was the very first thing I said to you! What the **** makes you think I made it up after losing?

"Actually I know why. Can you explain why you think NK was the most secretive nation despite the USSR still existing etc..? "

Finally, you bring up something that I actually started commenting in the first place for, what you claim I 'made up'. And yes, I believe NK was most secretive despite the existence of the USSR because they were very similar at the time, but the USSR did not cut off connection with the rest of the world. They communicated with many of their rivals and allies, they made threats, they made demands, they told us what they wanted. Meanwhile NK would communicate with only its closest allies, and the rest of the world couldn't get a chance to communicate with NK.
#201 to #199 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
"cause that means you know I'm right" - Nope, because you mentioned it earlier.

I explained the basics of Communism? - You obviously don't know the basics of Communism if you think that was the basics. Have you even read the Communist Manifesto?

Read up, the early 1900's IS the main point. I never argued against anything that you said, just look up, the proof is there. I never argued against you, I was just confused as to why you thought NK was Communist since the early 1900's.

Then you went all crazy and said this:

"you realize north korea is communist, right? And that the censorship there is more powerful than anywhere else in the world, right? Ok, well that has been going on since before the USSR collapsed."

- What in the flying **** does that have to do with why I was confused as to why you think 1948 is considered early 1900's?

That's where this all stemmed from .. from your stupidity of thinking 1948 is early 1900's.
User avatar #202 to #201 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
Dude, in that comment all you did was explain how media was run by the USSR, which was the same way it was run by North Korea then AND today. You have still yet to prove your main point.

"Nope, because you mentioned it earlier." If by that you're referring to when I told you your wikipedia skills are poor, that was an insult, meaning that you research your facts.

And now we're arguing about why we're arguing. The reason why is because you were an asshole since the very first reply, I was just disagreeing with you.

And no, of course you weren't literally explaining the basics of communism to me, hell you still are unable to explain your main point to me! BUT, you were telling me how the media is controlled, which does not say much...
#203 to #202 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
Funny how you mentioned nothing of your stupidity of thinking 1948 is early 1900's, because you know I'm right.

Here is the low down on what happened:

Me: USSR is most secretive nation
You: No, NK is..
Me: Yeah but USSR split
You: Yeah and NK has been communist since early 1900's
Me: Early 1900's, what?
You: What's not to get about that? you realize north korea is communist, right? And that the censorship there is more powerful than anywhere else in the world, right? Ok, well that has been going on since before the USSR collapsed.
While posting an image implying I'm stupid, despite the fact YOU'RE the one thinking 1948 is early 1900's.

Can you see how YOU'RE the asshole?

You said early 1900's and my only reply to that claim "Wait, wut" - How the **** is that being an asshole? Then you insult me for it. THEN you go on about North Korea ... what the **** ? Read up ******** , all I said was "wait wut" because you said 1900's ..

Then you say:
"What's not to get about that? you realize north korea is communist, right? And that the censorship there is more powerful than anywhere else in the world, right? Ok, well that has been going on since before the USSR collapsed."

Don't you think THAT was unnecessary? All you had to say was "well I guess mid 1900's". But no, that was too much for your ego.
User avatar #237 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
Alright, I'll own that title. Have a good one, I think this is over, right?
#239 to #237 - MrOblivious (07/02/2012) [-]
See ya
#238 to #237 - MrOblivious (07/02/2012) [-]
Seems like it.
User avatar #235 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
I'm not responsible for something that you replied to numerous times over 2 days, you had the option to do whatever you want.

If you want to say I'm responsible for this whole thing, then go right ahead, but realize that if you wanted to, you could have stopped a while ago. And you are responsible for your own actions. And both your actions AND my actions led to this.
#236 to #235 - MrOblivious (07/01/2012) [-]
"I'm not responsible for something that you replied to numerous times over 2 days, you had the option to do whatever you want."

- You are responsible for the instigation, the initial insult. Due to your own misunderstanding.
User avatar #233 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
And yours did some more....it's not like that one reaction image instigated it to a level that it stayed at throughout the whole argument...
#234 to #233 - MrOblivious (07/01/2012) [-]
But you are responsible for it due to your own misunderstanding.
User avatar #231 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
" Because you were insulting me with the reaction image."

Yes, but that still instigated the argument.
#232 to #231 - MrOblivious (07/01/2012) [-]
Were you meant to say something else? Because that's what I said.

Your insult instigated it.
User avatar #229 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
"Yes. I didn't instigate anything."

You were the first one to start namecalling, which brought the conversation into a more heated argument.
#230 to #229 - MrOblivious (07/01/2012) [-]
"You were the first one to start namecalling, which brought the conversation into a more heated argument."

- Because you were insulting me with the reaction image. You didn't have to actually type anything, the picture was your insult towards me.
User avatar #227 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
" I don't understand how this made you think I didn't know the DPRK existed during the Cold War. By saying NK wasn't the most secretive during the time of the USSR, this is a clear indication that I acknowledge they existed at the same time."

At that point, I didn't know you were more concerned about the whole early 1900s thing than the secretive nation thing.
User avatar #226 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
"That's not my fault, that's yours, because if you knew the exact year all of this wouldn't have happened."

All of this wouldn't have happened? As if I made you reply all these times? You instigated the argument just as much as I did, the argument persisted beyond this point, ya know.

Do you honestly believe you were not in the wrong at any point in this argument?
#228 to #226 - MrOblivious (07/01/2012) [-]
"Do you honestly believe you were not in the wrong at any point in this argument?"
- Yes. I didn't instigate anything.

1. You felt offended by my comments which weren't intended to offend
2. You replied with offensiveness first due to thinking you were being insulted
3. Due to your own misunderstanding of the 1900's issue, you added more information in that was unnecessary

In other words, this was instigated by your own misunderstanding and the fact that you brought up unnecessary extra information to talk about.
User avatar #224 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
"I put the "1900's" in italic. Read up, that was the point. I put it in italics to single it out, the "lul wut" was obviously a relation to the part I singled out. I didn't single it out in italics to make it look pretty."

Well yeah, I know that know, but that doesn't change the fact that I originally didn't know what you were confused about, at that point, since I didn't have the exact year, I still figured 'early 1900s' was a relatively reasonable label.

As for the wikipedia, I could really care less, if you say you didn't I'll take your word for it, it's not that big of a deal, I just don't like being called a ******* retard for not being exact.

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"I never indicated that it wasn't. I have no idea where you got that from."

This statement right here is what made me want to ensure you that they were from the same time frame:

"When I said USSR was the most secretive, obviously I was talking about when it existed. North Korea was never the most secretive when the USSR was around."
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For all I knew, you could have thought that the DPRK hadn't existed yet during the Cold War.
#225 to #224 - MrOblivious (07/01/2012) [-]
""When I said USSR was the most secretive, obviously I was talking about when it existed.** North Korea was never the most secretive when the USSR was around**."
- I don't understand how this made you think I didn't know the DPRK existed during the Cold War. By saying NK wasn't the most secretive during the time of the USSR, this is a clear indication that I acknowledge they existed at the same time.

"but that doesn't change the fact that I originally didn't know what you were confused about"
- Exactly, hence forth you blabbed on about NK for no reason like I said. You misinterpreted the comment because you admit you didn't know the exact years. Therefore calling me out on a mistake YOU made, because you didn't understand the comment. That's not my fault, that's yours, because if you knew the exact year all of this wouldn't have happened.
User avatar #221 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
And by the way, in your last comment you've called me ******* retarded and a coward...

Are you going to calm down? Cause I'm really not even that heated anymore...
User avatar #220 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
And to acknowledge the thumbing down, yes, I did thumb down 3 or 4 comments originally, and as you can see, I proceeded to thumb down all of them after seeing you did the same. I didn't stop thumbing you down so I could 'whip out the butthurt excuse later', it was you who brought up the butthurt, I just stopped cause I forgot..And I'm pretty sure I stopped before you even started, so no it wasn't so I could use it as an excuse later.
User avatar #219 to #203 - norbit (07/01/2012) [-]
"You ******* retard that was the last SIX years. That started in 1985 when Gorbachev took leadership. Seriously, Jesus ******* Christ you can't even get THAT right."

You see? This is exactly how the 1900s thing started, you take little things way too literally and then persist with the name calling, seriously, what the **** , dude? I'm a ' ******* retard' because instead of giving you the exact number of years I rounded up? You're checking wikipedia for the exact years and **** and then once you get them you feel empowered an call me a ******* retard?

"NK on the other hand, had NO global influence, no one wanted to listen to their demands because THEY HAD NONE. They were just a country sitting there, they didn't share because they had NOTHING TO SHARE."

"Obviously I didn't LITERALLY mean they had no plans, what are you ******* retarded?"

See how offended you get when I take something literal?

What compelled me to talk about NK
>You said the USSR was the most secretive nation of its time.
>I said I felt North Korea was.
>You said the USSR has since split
>I said yeah, but NK has been censored/communist since early 1900s (Yeah, I didn't look up the year, you did, it was mid.)
>You used the lolwut pic and quoted my exact comment
>Since you didn't say anything, I literally didn't know what you were confused about, so I re-explained what I just said.
>You thought i said 1900 exactly, so you freaked and called me a retard, at some point you realized I said early 1900s, which should have been mid 1900s, but you not wanting to acknowledge your overreaction kept making it a big deal.
>In that same comment, you pulled up the exact year of communism in NK.
>Me, wanting to prove that my opinion of NK being most secretive still stood, wanted to make sure you realized that 1948 is still during the time frame of the USSR.
>From there, it was a 2-sided argument, one part being the early 1900s thing, and the other being the secretive nations.
#223 to #219 - MrOblivious (07/01/2012) [-]
"You're checking wikipedia for the exact years and **** "
- Haha it's so funny how you think I look at Wikipedia. Just so you know, I have NEVER checked Wikipedia at all for anything that I've said to you. Wanna know how I know all this information at the top of my head? I'm a socialist. I've read many books on these things and the history of the USSR and yes, even the DPRK. A few years ago I was an outspoken socialist, a hardliner Communist even. Though my views have calmed to the typical socialist view now. I've watched many documentaries on these things. I know all this information I've said to you from the top of my head, all these exact years, leaders and terms ... I KNOW all this because I've studied it and due to the fact that I'm a socialist myself.

"Since you didn't say anything, I literally didn't know what you were confused about, so I re-explained what I just said."
- I put the "1900's" in italic. Read up, that was the point. I put it in italics to single it out, the "lul wut" was obviously a relation to the part I singled out. I didn't single it out in italics to make it look pretty.

"wanted to make sure you realized that 1948 is still during the time frame of the USSR."
- I never indicated that it wasn't. I have no idea where you got that from.

I know the exact years of all of this.
>1917 Russia becomes Communist, though this is NOT the USSR
>1922 USSR formed
> 1924 Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) dies
>1991 USSR split

And NO I did NOT use Wikipedia for that. I spent 9 years reading all about this because I have been a socialist for 8 of those 9 years. I have even made an enquiry into joining the Communist Party, though I changed my mind once I found out the government will ban me from certain career paths if I take membership (believe it or not it's true, they WILL do that). So frankly, to say I used something as ridiculous as Wikipedia for even a source is insulting.
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User avatar #217 to #203 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
"All I said was 1948 is not early 1900's ... THAT'S ALL. YOU started talking about NK becoming communist."

I don't know why you can't understand simple things that are clearly typed right in front of you a few posts up. Do you know why the year 1948 was even brought up? It's because I was already talking about communism in North Korea. God damn...is it really that hard to understand? That I was already talking about NK before you jumped on the whole early 1900s thing? It wasn't made up afterwards, it was the root of the 1900s mess. Holy **** , I'm in shock that I even had to explain this to you.


"They were just a country sitting there, they didn't share because they had NOTHING TO SHARE."
And you know this, how? Did you personally go through the NK files from the 40s-90s and found that their government had absolutely no plans and/or goals? Yeah, the USSR had more power, but that doesn't mean they were more secretive. The last 10 years of the USSR consisted of a spread of democracy and neutrality. The whole world watched as it collapsed and the whole world discovered that the USSR was a nation with a struggling government and peoples. And that, was the nation's main goals, to make communism work. But it didn't.
#218 to #217 - MrOblivious (07/01/2012) [-]
"The last 10 years of the USSR consisted of a spread of democracy and neutrality" - You ******* retard that was the last SIX years. That started in 1985 when Gorbachev took leadership. Seriously, Jesus ******* Christ you can't even get THAT right.

"That I was already talking about NK before you jumped on the whole early 1900s thing? It wasn't made up afterwards, it was the root of the 1900s mess. Holy **** , I'm in shock that I even had to explain this to you." - This had NO relevance to my reply. I never spoke about NK, yes .. YOU spoke about FOR NO REASON. The stupidity of you astounds me.

"And you know this, how? Did you personally go through the NK files from the 40s-90s and found that their government had absolutely no plans and/or goals?" - Obviously I didn't LITERALLY mean they had no plans, what are you ******* retarded? Oh wait, you are. I can also use that quote against you, ya ******** . Did you go through the USSR's files and see what they were sharing did you? Cool story, you also got the key to Lubyanka do you?


Read the first few comments. I said NOTHING about NK's history, NOTHING about the USSR's history. All I said was 1948 is not early 1900's THEN you blabbed on about NK FOR NO REASON. There was NO NEED.

What compelled you to talk about NK when all I said was 1948 is not early 1900's? Why? Tell me ... what compelled you to do that when there was no need? When all I stated that 1948 is not early 1900's ... what was it about that statement that compelled you to talk about NK's history? What?

Also, I definitely want to know why you still avoid answering me about the thumbing down? It's hilarious how you don't want to admit your wrong even about something as simple as that. I mentioned it three times and you still avoid like a typical coward.
So answer me .. why did you call me out on thumbing down when I only did it because you did it first ... then when I called you out for it you avoid now? You did it first, why are you calling others out?
User avatar #213 to #203 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
You're ************ me and yourself by saying that I 'made up' the North Korea debate, that was the first ******* thing i said to you, obviously that didnt come out of nowhere. and if you wont accept that and cant even own up to that much, then why am i wasting my time. all the other things you have brought up ive done my best to acknowledge and make clear of, but if you cant even give me the decency of telling me what my argument was really about and telling me that I made up the north korea debate halfway through, then i give up. that was the very first thing i said to you, and i was looking for a reply, i didnt want a heated argument at first, BUT, nonetheless, that is why i ever replied to you in the first place. and that is the truth.


now out of nowhere in your recap you tell my my statements are wrong? well you have yet to prove them wrong, and it's easy to just say that they are.

if anyone is backtracking on ******* , it's you. YOU'RE the one who couldnt get over the 1900s mixup. If it was up to me this argument would be done 45 minutes ago when I found out you dont actually know why you think the USSR was the most secretive nation of its time.
#216 to #213 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
Your explanation is ridiculous.

Despite the USSR communicating with their allies, this does NOT mean they shared vital information with them. They only told them what they wanted to tell them. NK on the other hand, had NO global influence, no one wanted to listen to their demands because THEY HAD NONE. They were just a country sitting there, they didn't share because they had NOTHING TO SHARE. Soviet advisor's and troops were stationed in NK. The USSR KNEW what was going on in NK because of what was happening with the Americans in the South, where as NK had NO IDEA what was going on in the USSR.

USSR = Knew all information and retained all information
DPRK = Knew nothing and didn't retain everything

Also, this argument DID start from the early 1900's remark. All I said was 1948 was NOT early 1900's ... then you started talking about NK.

What does .. and I REPEAT ... what the **** does that have to do with ANYTHING about me telling you 1948 is not early 1900's.

Read carefully, READ CAREFULLY:

You started mentioning NK's history .... FOR NO REASON. All I said was 1948 is not early 1900's ... THAT'S ALL. YOU started talking about NK becoming communist.

You must be mentally retarded if you honestly CANNOT grasp that concept. I NEVER mentioned NK history or the history of the USSR ... I was simply stating 1948 is not early 1900's and your reply to that had no relevance to what I said because you started blabbing on about NK's government.
User avatar #211 to #203 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
"Was the USSR the most secretive nation of it's time = YES = I'm right"

It seems that was one goal of yours, was it not?


And once again, you've left the whole early 1900s/mid 1900s thing and gone onto butthurt. This isn't therapy, i understand you're interested in the exact time i was offended, and the answer is NO TIME! Yeah, I told you you were an asshole at first, but I was never deeply offended, it may have brewed an argument to escalate, but will it keep me from sleeping tonight? No.

So think whatever you want, but this is all dying down due to a lack of interest, cause it wasn't until 4 or 5 posts ago that I realized you had officially changed arguments.
#212 to #211 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
"It seems that was one goal of yours, was it not?" - Nope, it was not. It just happened to be something YOU were interested in so I added that in.

Here is the low down of you:

>Feel offended for no ******* reason
>Insult out of nowhere while making an error
>Get corrected on error
>Add in pointless and wrong information
>Adds more pointless and wrong information
>Thumbs down every comment
>Gets thumbed down in return
>Calls other person butt hurt for thumbing down despite doing it first
>Gets called out on it twice
>Never mentions it again
>Tries to back track on **** ups

In other words, you got upset with a so called "insult" ... and in order to "redeem" yourself, you created the North Korea debate. This is why I'm not bothering with that argument any more, because that argument was a simply a vent for you to express your anger. We would be arguing between apples and oranges, the argument was simply a tool for you to insult back after being allegedly insulted.

User avatar #208 to #203 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
"Uhh no, insulting back is natural. I don't just stand there letting someone insult me. So naturally I come back. While YOU .. came out of nowhere insulting because you felt offended. "

Once again, it was just a reaction image, the comment itself did not involve any namecalling, you panicked and threw the same image back at me and ended in calling me a retard.

And don't act like the USSR being the most secretive had nothing to do with your argument, you just couldn't win that argument and now you're making it seem like it was focused on something else. Your longest comments were bull **** trying to explain how the USSR was most secretive. At one point, that was your argument.

Now, this whole thing has turned into an arguing about arguing thing because you're either:
A - Still trying to distract me away from what at one point was the main reason of argument.

or

B - Having just a bit too much fun replying.
#210 to #208 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
Yes, you used the image to convey an insult due to being butt hurt. No one uses that image as a friendly gesture and you know that, now you're trying to back track. You don't need text to insult someone, admit it, you were insulting me with that image, now you're back tracking trying to make it look like it was light hearted. You were obviously somehow offended by what I said, that much is clear as you claim I was an asshole from the beginning.

"Your longest comments were bull **** trying to explain how the USSR was most secretive." -!! Because you requested it!!, I personally don't give a **** .

Now, this whole thing has turned into an arguing about arguing thing because you're either:

A - Too butt hurt to admit you're butt hurt because you felt offended by my comments (god knows why)

B - Well .. actually that's it

Oh you also forgot to mention how you called me out for thumbing down despite the fact you did it first.
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User avatar #206 to #203 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
Well, you see that was the point of my argument. And butthurt? no, although you were an asshole, I actually planned on you coming back with a reason why the USSR was the most secretive.

If you wanna talk about butthurt, look at yourself, thumbing down each and every one of my comments, like that's going to make me sad that im losing -1 thumb each comment. Sad, really.

And don't act like this was me being sensitive, you're telling me right now that you got angry because of a reaction image saying "this is how smart you look", it's humor, ******* , you're telling me I'm sensitive when you're complaining that this all escalated cause i posted a reaction image that hurt your feelings.

And do you really think you handled this argument better? it wasn't until the 5th or 6th reply that you finally stopped using the word 'retard' in every other line.

I guess I'll have to take another -1 for this one :'[ .
#207 to #206 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
"If you wanna talk about butthurt, look at yourself, thumbing down each and every one of my comments, like that's going to make me sad that im losing -1 thumb each comment. Sad, really. " - haha I only did that because YOU did it first ... what you think I didn't notice that?

"And don't act like this was me being sensitive, you're telling me right now that you got angry because of a reaction image saying "this is how smart you look", it's humor, ******* , you're telling me I'm sensitive when you're complaining that this all escalated cause i posted a reaction image that hurt your feelings." - Uhh no, insulting back is natural. I don't just stand there letting someone insult me. So naturally I come back. While YOU .. came out of nowhere insulting because you felt offended.

Oh I see, so you stop thumbing down my most recent ones in order to use the "Oh stop thumbing me down, you're butt hurt" remark.
User avatar #204 to #203 - norbit (06/30/2012) [-]
You being an asshole was your very first sarcastic reply informing me the USSR has since split, with your reaction images within each reply, I decided to use one myself, see how that works?

And I'm not sure if you're just not reading this, but as I've already stated, (because I don't research all my **** , I didn't know the exact year) that early 1900s was the wrong word, mid 1900s would be a better word for it. I'm willing to move passed that, because as I've already said, I used the wrong word, it's still not the point of my argument, maybe yours, but not mine.

See how YOU, haven't mentioned a thing about the USSR being the most secretive nation of its time in a couple replies? That's you counter-arguing because quite frankly you have nothing to prove to me.


And do you know why I didn't just say OHH!!! WOOPS!!! I MEANT TO SAY MID NOT EARLY, was because from what I learned, although it may not have OFFICIALLY adapted to communism, it has been building up in the nation for 20 years prior, and that is why I remained with it. But once again that isn't my argument, so I will tell you yes I should have said mid, and I hope you can finally let that go...
#205 to #204 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
"See how YOU, haven't mentioned a thing about the USSR being the most secretive nation of its time in a couple replies?" - Because this was NEVER my main argument, I don't give a **** if you disagree with me, I was simply confused as to why you thought 1948 was early 1900's. My main argument was 1948 is NOT early 1900's, it was YOU who kept spitting out ******** for no ******* reason.

"You being an asshole was your very first sarcastic reply informing me the USSR has since split, with your reaction images within each reply" - How the **** was that sarcastic?

First of all, the "lol wut" pear is simply used to convey confusion. Being confused is NOT being an asshole.

Second of all, the first reaction pic is not used to convey sarcasm. I used it to convey MFW I meant "No I mean before, not now" along with my comment. Not being an asshole.

Ohhhh .. I see I see ... so this all started because you thought I insulted you, therefore feeling butt hurt? Haha holy **** , are you seriously that sensitive?

I never insulted you until you called me stupid with the reaction image. Jesus ******* christ, grow a thicker skin.

You seriously started all this because you felt butt hurt, christ...
#196 to #195 - MrOblivious (06/30/2012) [-]
*1900's = NO = I'm right
#169 to #167 - shadezog (06/30/2012) [-]
I agree. If we nuke each other, I could use all my saved bottle caps to buy goodies in the atomic wasteland.
#173 to #169 - Womens Study Major (06/30/2012) [-]
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