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JosefRieper (06/25/2012) [-] "Use theory to better understand the universe."
It amazes me how you people act like this is important. Science has proven that life is just some meaningless accident made up of particles. We could devote our lives to the scientific ideal, and it would mean fuck all. We could allow five year old children to be raped for years at a time and murdered in a butcher's shop in some Nazi death camp, and it would mean fuck all, and this is all science will ever teach us. Thanks, guys!
It amazes me how you people act like this is important. Science has proven that life is just some meaningless accident made up of particles. We could devote our lives to the scientific ideal, and it would mean fuck all. We could allow five year old children to be raped for years at a time and murdered in a butcher's shop in some Nazi death camp, and it would mean fuck all, and this is all science will ever teach us. Thanks, guys!
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bgbba (06/25/2012) [-] Science doesn't seek to dehumanize people, it seeks to understand the universe and where humans fit in it. Science and ethics are two very different things, my friend. In the realm of science, ethics can and do stop things from happening. For one, ethics prevents cloning, though science is completely neutral to it. That's what science is, completely neutral.
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JosefRieper (06/25/2012) [-] And so we have discovered our place and meaning in the universe - comparable to a fly on a lump of shit that somebody steps on on their way to work. I'm sure that the scientists will be able to find some "beauty" in this however.
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JosefRieper (06/25/2012) [-] It isn't all sad. Meaning is a human term, and humans can still find meaning. I'm an atheist, but if there's one thing I believe, it's in the human experience, in being able to believe in something.
Science just takes it all away, all meaning, all purpose and then acts like it's in the right. It does not teach us how to live better lives, only how meaningless ours are.
Science just takes it all away, all meaning, all purpose and then acts like it's in the right. It does not teach us how to live better lives, only how meaningless ours are.
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bgbba (06/25/2012) [-] As an atheist, I don't need to see a higher power or order to give meaning to my life. I have a general faith in the greater good of humanity, but I don't think that science takes anything away. If anything, science is the pure neutral thing of the world, humbling us with what it discovers.
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kingnarnode (06/25/2012) [-] greater good of humanity? what kind of twisted world do you live in? There is hardly anything good about humanity..... I would even go far enough to say that it is less ridiculous to believe in a God than it is to believe in the greater good of humanity
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bgbba (06/25/2012) [-] Science does not take away all meaning and purpose, it takes away all RELIGIOUS meaning and purpose. I myself have a "purpose", of sorts, and that is to contribute to the world in a way that leaves it better for my having lived. Most atheists and theists have the same general goal, it's all how we get there that we debate about. And yes, knowing that all we are is a collection of particles is very humbling.
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bgbba (06/25/2012) [-] I must ask you, do you just not see any point in living at all? So sure, people die in the end. Everyone does. But I know that if I invent something, or write something, or paint or something else, then those things will last longer than me or anyone I know. I contribute to the world because if nobody did, then the world would be a very sad and boring place indeed.
