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If we fought wars fair we would never have one a single war.
Wars are won by fighting as dirty as possible.

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The only fair fight is the one you lose

Actually, I've got to call you out on the 'fighting fair" aspect you claimed. Look back at the Revolutionary war. The British fought the "gentleman" style of combat, stand in rows, fire, first row ducks and reloads, back group fires, and repeats until melee/sword combat breaks out. The current-America's primary leader, George Washington was different. All the leaders before him fought "gentleman" style. Whereas, G.W said fuck all to that, and fought "Guerrilla" style. Which lead to ambushes, hiding in trees, I've even heard they would lay down shrapnel (glass, nails) in bushes, so when the soldiers tread through it, they could get their feet cut up, and possibly a nail through the shoe. Hell, we even attacked them on Christmas. That's far from fair. Sorry if I seem upset, I'm not, just laying down some 7th grade education.

womens and childrens? That is a double plural...

yeah well the Germans killed hundreds of thousands of people just by bombing London alone, so I think that is fair

You act like the Germans fought fair. Chemical warfare in WW1. Nobody fights completely fair but America is for sure the cleanest fighting country.

I was talking about post-revolutionary war era America. You are 100% right, but war was different then. War would have evolved into what it was now whether we had been the ones to figure out standing in a row waiting to be shot was stupid.

Yes , because using UAVs to bomb civilian areas is the definition of fair .

There were tons of enemies in those civilian areas. If they weren't bombed, the terrorists would have been ruling over them, raping their women and strapping bombs on the children, there would have been just as much destruction of we would have gone in on foot after them.

They were bombing their country before we went there. Yeah I believe in terrorism?

I said all but one, meaning vietnam. Mission accomplished in Afghanistan and Iraq. How did we lose in Iraq or Afghanistan? lmao we were about to withdraw troops since our job was done. Yeah, we had help in WW2 but we came in late, and unprepared to help the WORLD. Even if we had Allies (not 60 either jackass) Germany had the other Axis countries if you forgot about them. What country are you from?

How much do you really think our troops are helping? There's been violence and terrorism in the Middle East for about 1400 years. And now because a few of them want to pick a fight with us, does that make it our battle? No. We cleaned up Iraq (not going to touch on any of the controversy) for the most part, and installed a government. The week after we withdraw, the presidential candidates start car bombing opponents.

Sure, it's technically a retreat. But war isn't about seeing which country has the biggest penis based on the amount of missiles or accumulated kills they have. I think we're done over there, because there is no way we can occupy Afghanistan or Iraq or even stay in that region for another 30 years until every last member of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda has been blown to hell.

Ok, so I am seeing alot of butthurt from this conversation. America doesn't always fight fare, we fight on terms with our enemy. Also, if someone were to throw a punch at you, wouldn't at least want to throw one back so they don't do it again? Every country has the right to defense, so why not defend ourselves? We have the strongest military force up-to-date and we honestly don't jump into a war that doesn't concern us or our allies. We fought to protect ourselves and others. Also, the civilian thing, really, we make very few civilian kills, and even then they are accidents. And during the Revolutionary War, we found a way to beat the enemy, instead of getting in a line just to get shot one by one. We decided to get around their defenses and find their weak point, that's what every other country tries to do, they want the upper hand, not the lower one. During WW1 and 2, the Germans used chemical warfare(which was illegal at the time) against their enemies. Plus, if you are trying to compare us to the Nazis during WW2 with civility, here's an interesting fact you might have forgot, THEY KILLED OVER 6BILLION INNOCENT PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THEM. They tried to take down an entire "race" just because they thought it was wrong, so you think it's wrong for us to take out the biggest threat in American history with a few bombs and planes? Your argument is invalid sir.

Are you retarded!? Our mission wasn't "Eliminate all taliban forever". That is impossible. Mission accomplished was declared years ago when Bush was still president and nobody denies that our mission was accomplished. The mission we were sent there to do was done. That doesnt change just because some dumbasses think we were supposed to end all terrorism.