Saw this giftcard

Jackpot!

Yes?

I just wanted to let you know i rolled trips

Very well... I shall continue about my business.

MFW my notifications

Glad you showed up to join in all thumbs man!

*The thumbs

yo...your name..

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i don't understand, but here are boobs as recompence...

he has rolled the holiest of trips...

Jackpot!

Quite.

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"Hey mama! Come look at this on the news! These towers fell!"

Good lord. o.o

cuz he got trips

its rare to get.... why are we arguing about this?

Bungie would be proud

I do not understand you people

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If you know that you won't get trips, don't don't try getting them.

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Dice put a hell of a lot of work into BF3, then EA stabbed them in the back.

I must have missed that news, what happened?

EA is pretty much making it like COD with an "Elite" Service. It's retarded, EA only cares about money.

Before I had moderately disposable income, I used to pirate games often and pay for them if I enjoyed the content and the developer (Dragon Age, The Witcher 2, Portal 2, etc.). I think of it as trying before buying.

I buy console games and, like skyrim and FNV, if I really want to access mods and PC content, I'll pirate them and play them on PC.

I bought BF3 because I liked DICE. They are a good game company. Just because EA owns them doesn't mean they suck. Criterion Games and BioWare are good examples.

Correction: Criterion and Bioware USED to be good. After dragon age 2 I thought, "OK, I forgive them, I still have Mass Effect." Then they gave that game multiplayer. Worst idea EVER! It fucked up the single player, and they lied about it! They said something like, "Multiplayer will not effect single player at all." When in reality, it is really fucking hard to get the best ending without multiplayer, and the "best" Ending sucks.

Oh, and Criterion kind messed up NFS, but they might redeem themselves with Most Wanted 2.

Maybe, but Mass Effect 3 was still a good game. Multiplayer didn't turn it into complete shit. And what do you mean Criterion messed up NFS? Hot Pursuit was better than everything after Most Wanted that Black Box made. And Most Wanted 2 will probably never come anyway.

Actually, Most wanted 2 wast leaked to show up at E3.

And you're right, Mass Effect isn't complete shit, But all I cared about was singleplayer, then they added multiplayer and I have yet to see singleplayer DLC.

I feel stupid. I take back the part of Criterion. They are good.

I disagree, Criterion completely dropped their PC support for Burnout Paradise, one of the best driving games out there (IMO because of free-roam) but they still tantalize you with a total shit-ton of dlc that is PC exclusive but that you still can't buy.

I didn't know that. But then again, I don't play PC, (INB4: Shun the non-believer). But that still sounds like it sucks. Criterion is now on my mediocre list.

And EA refuses to even provide ANY support for the game without giving Steam permission to do so either.

Yeah. EA is shit. They take good companys, and fuck them up just for a quick buck. The only game developer/publisher I have faith in is Take two and Rockstar. They still make amazing games.

I pirate all my games
however each time i finish a game. i ask myself should i support the developers?
if it was a bad game -> "fuck no, i am not buying it"
if it was a good game -> "let's buy the game/dlc/artbook]

i have at the moment 350 game cd's and around 70 games in my steam wallet
so does pirating harm the developers?

Why thumb this guy down? It costs a magical thing called MONEY to create high quality games. It's their (the developers) job to create a product which can be sold, they need some sort of income. Taking their games is stealing - you are a thief until you pay them.

Actually it's copyright infringement, not theft.

Something is being copied, not taken, so it costs nothing to replace it.

It does cost money, because the developers have to sell the copies to make money. Basically theft.

No, it isn't "basically" theft.
It isn't theft.

I'm not condoning it, I just feel a distinction has to be made.
I know that they put a lot of work into making this stuff, and it deserves to be bought.

But that doesn't change the fact that downloading it for free is not stealing.
It's just copyright infringement.

Because they're not making a loss by pirating it as to them, it the exact same as you just not buying their product. There's no difference.

I'm sorry, your logic makes no sense. Copyright infringement IS stealing from the company.

Here's a good example. Lets say that a company produces a download-only game. How do you think they make their money? That's right, by people buying it online. By pirating the game, it means they don't get money whilst you still get their service.

With your logic, I should be able to simply walk into a games store, grab a game, and take it. It effectively costs them nothing to create the CD and casing, so why not do it? Because it is stealing!

Oh and also, when you walk into a store and steal it, it's different.
You're stealing from the store. Not the devs.
They bought it from them.

And the store pays a LOT more then just what it costs to make the physical copy.
So it would be a fairly big theft.

You are still stealing, no matter who from. Its not different - you have taken something you are not entitled too. Do you think you are entitled to a pirated thing?

Having something you're not entitled to have is not theft.
Taking physical property from someone is theft.

Definition: To take (the property of another or others) without permission or right.

Where in that does it say that to steal something, it has to be a physical object?

Sorry, that was my mistake.
I see now that that's not necessarily the case.

Doesn't change the fact that since piracy is just creating a duplicate, and theft is leaving them with a gap that they have to pay to refill, there is a clear difference.

Sorry, didn't see this comment.
So, when they create a duplicate, the company doesn't *technically* loose any money. However, they have not gained money, whilst the person who has made the copy has gained something of value, for free. Gaining something of value for free, without permission, when it should have cost money, is stealing

You're missing my point that to the person selling the product, you not buying the game and you downloading it for free are the same thing to them, they make no money.

However, if you STEAL a game from a store, as in steal a physical copy, someone has to pay for that physical copy to be replaced. Hence where money is lost.

Look, I'm not on the side of Piracy, it's still a bad thing, I'm just saying that blatent theft and copyright infringement are not the same thing.

Copyright Infringement is not giving money where money is due.

Stealing is (as defined by google) "Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it"
You're not taking property, you're copying it.

It's not okay. But it's not the same thing.

When you pirate a game, the developer (or whoever is distributing it) looses sale. By pirating it, you have taken something which you should have paid for. It's all well and good saying that someone will buy the proper game, but the second you pirate it, you have stolen it until the moment you pay the distributor for the game

And with your google defenition. To take another persons property without permission. Do you think they give you permission to take their game and pirate it? You are viewing property you haven't paid the rights to view for. That is stealing

Who says that I was going to buy a game I pirated?
If I pirate a game that I was NOT going to buy, EVER, what difference does it make to the developer other then your mess of semantics?

It makes none. I hate when people say "hurr durr you were going to buy it!"
That's irrelevant to my argument.
My argument is that their not losing money.
That would mean that they actually lose money from every person who just doesn't buy their game, which is crazy.

And what's your logic with the google definion, by the way?
"Well, if it fits half the definion, it's good enough for me!"
It said property. No property was taken.
Something was just copied.

That's it. Piracy isn't a good thing.
Personally, I buy the vast majority of my games.
I'm not arguing as someone who pirates a lot of shit.

I'm just arguing on the grounds that people know the difference between theft and piracy, and stop using it as a word to make the crime sound worse then it is.

I didn't include the last half of the google definition because I thought its damn obvious how relevant it is. Without permission OR legal right (same thing) and regarding 'without intending to return it'. You can't return a download. Also, how is it not their property? They have the licence for that. You have stole- sorry, taken that licence, their property. You may well have copied it, but you have still have that licence, their property.

And I am mentioning the idea of buying after copyrighting because the guy who I originally replied to talked of it. I was trying to justify the idea of it not being stealing because you paid for it in the end.

I know, and that's copyright infringement.

When you have something that is very similar or the same to something that already exists and is copyrighted.
When you copy it, you have a file that that fits that description nicely.

But as I said... it just isn't theft.
And also, I think that the impossibility to return a download also backs up my argument, as it clearly shows that it's referring to something completely different.

It's not completely different at all. And you have taken their licence, which means the distributor should have gained money when they have not, which in my books is stealing. It may be copyright infringement as well, but it is also stealing

Instead of making $2,000,000,002, they made $2,000,000,001! THOSE SCOUNDRELS THAT PIRATE MOVIES! MY WORD!

i've never heard of movie theater selling tickets for 1 dollar o.O

It actually only has 1.3 billion worldwide. I'm just sayin.
Sauce: boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

It hurts movie theaters.

Because of pirating and tester cams, even the biggest cinemas are losing a lot of money.

one of my friends lost their job because of this. she said 5 others were let go too.

just wait until the movie is on DVD, (or very close to it) to torrent it.

Because of a lot things, things maybe too numerous or too difficult for your to understand.

It had one of the largest special effects teams ever constructed, giving it some of the most intense and cinematic special effects ever constructed. Apart from that the musical score was par if not great. And the tie ins with all the characters in the screen writing and writing were amazing.

Largest effects team doesn't mean anything. The effects were good but to argue that they were good don't use the size of the team as an example, use the actual effects as an example.

but for it to be theft, there would have to be something removed from the owner. by pirating software, music, etc. you just make a copy for yourself. The original owner is not damaged at all therefore it's not a crime in my opinion.

You are using a service that a company charges money for, you are not paying for it. It isn't theft but you are not respecting the company as you are using their products without paying, so it is a crime.

not respecting someone is not illegal where i live.

what?

you said i was not respecting the companies by using their product without paying. Well if it's morally acceptable is debatable, but it is not a crime.

You're using something they made and the company said if you wish to use this pay up. You're using it without paying and therefore abusing a service a company is providing. That is a crime.

Cool

You sir, just won the internet

That was probably the best roll... EVER

Right because that's the part of this that seems sketch...

Yeah how stupid, it should be zero euros instead...

Zero is zero, the reference is not important.

I was just agreeing with you. Fuck this shit, I'm a bathtub.

Very kind of you, sir.

Nice, it think i might have just found myself a new fetish

boobs?

then you fucked up

Just go through the comments before downloading, also look for a pink or green skull, those usually mean that the poster is reliable.

i still try to do it but th basterds wont download i keep getting a pop up on the download menu to download some movie shareing shit

What download menu? You should be on ThePirateBay clicking a little link that says "Get this torrent" and it should have a magnet on the left.

do i click get this torrent or torrent file

get this torrent. Then you open the torrent file with a torrent program like uTorrent, BitTorrent, or TorrentComet.

now can you tell me how to open it

thanks man

Like I said, open with one of the torrent files above. They're all free, uTorrent is probably the most widely used.

Glad I could help.

k

fuck off anon

http:/ /thepiratebay .se/torrent/4021949/DoomUltimate___Doom2

idiot, learn of to use site before you blame it for not working!

nigger

A nigger wouldnæt be able to torrent. I'm able to torrent, and you are not. So, please tell me who of us who was the nigger.

k whell you used to be a nigger

a nigger would'nt have a computer check mate

by saying that you are implying that none of us is niggers

exacly

High five my brother, I do the exact same.

Relevant-est of rolls

maybe because the photo wasn't taken in america?

wow youre retarded... not in america. so they wont be in dutch obviously.

Because Belgium and the Netherlands are not from fucking america