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I'm sick of people complaining about having religion shoved down their throat. It's just advertisement or someone giving a fuck about you. Those people need to calm their tits.

and you will always have christians ripping on muslims, muslims on jews, etc.

Now now now, we should give a shit about other's beliefs. But we should be kind and cordial about it.

I would love to see that, but a couple of those religions in that pic have more radical sectors in them that have "I'm right and everyone else is wrong &/or deserves to die" philosophies. In order to achieve universal Peace and Love, those sectors need to lose preeminence over the less radical sectors of their religions. That way we can actually talk instead of just yell at each other

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It would ever work.

That is impossible in human nature. We always want to be right and we all have our own unique beliefs. However, if everyone wants to better than everyone else, there is no avoiding people saying their belief is the right one.

Then how did I learn to tolerate other people? (Except for close-minded liberals... I can't stand them)

that would be nice, especially for someone like me who can't really pick one thing to believe in because I have a scientific mind but i also believe karma is real and stuff so ya, also seeing as religion has caused the most deaths and conflict in the world for as long as we have known proves "just how well" we come to terms with eachother.
(if you didn't read it is very understandable haha)

Good one!

Because some peoples beliefs are to not get along with certain people and stuff..

Baaaaah

I like guns...

Me too. Pic related.

Bleh. Trying to post a pic of an SRS, but I can't upload for some reason?

Exactly! Finally, someone who is not a Christian or scholar gets it. You are just a bit off, it describes how humanity did disobey the rules of God and why they continuously do it. The fruit of the tree is described, but its not any actual fruit. The tree was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. The fruit of the tree then, obviously, was Knowledge of Good and Evil. God had created a pure creation in Adam and Eve (who may not have actually existed as well) and they had no reason to know of evil. They lived in direct presence with God and, therefore, evil was far from their minds. The snake is a Babylonian symbol of Knowledge but also Deceit. When Genesis was written Babylon was the Eastern world's dominant culture. They wrote the symbol of Satan as a snake because he was a Knowledgeable Deceiver. Satan convinced them that God was holding something back from them, that the knowledge of good and evil somehow made him God. By Adam and Eve knowing this wisdom, they thought they would become more like God. The sin of eating the fruit, then, was not just because God said don't do it. It was a sin of pride that took away God's dominion over man. Every sin since then has centered in selfishness and pride, man saying their way is better than God's way. THAT is what Genesis really means.
TL;DR version: Snakes don't talk, but Satan does. There was no tree of fruit, only a forbidden knowledge because it would corrupt mankind. Satan tempted them to know it anyway. Adam and Eve attempted to take away God's dominion. This was the first sin.

That's a really interesting way to look at it, thanks for sharing!

I'm sorry, but I think it would then be rather called a philosophy rather than a religion, if you don't take it literally.

I was only referring to the Genesis part of the Bible. The
part with the four Gospels (A.K.A The New Testament)
is meant to be an account of what actually happened when
Christ came to earth, so that part IS meant to be taken literally,
if you believe it. I guess that's why the religion is named Christianity,
rather than Genesism or something.

You can't imagine how creepy sounds to me when somebody says "Jesus loves me". And my name's Jesús.

Well... YOu get my meaning :)

Im a Buddhist, and even i, approve this message

Respect to this man

Woman :)

Goddamn.

Marry me.

Language. :P

So you're sayin' there's a chance.

Totally ;D

Wunderbar.
It's rare to meet a Christian that knows what the hell's going on.

I won't say I know what's going on, just that I'm trying to. We will never know everything-we're not supposed to. But still. :) Thank you, kind sir.
Is that proposal still active? :o

Certainly. I suppose that's where most Christians go wrong, assuming they know everything without a doubt just because their parents told them so.
Yes, it certainly is!

My parents didn't bring me up in a home where I had to go to church. They did, however, go to a Christian College. Maybe that's why I am the way I am, I don't know. As a Christian, the only thing I know is that God is out there somewhere. He's with me always. He loves me. I can't see Him but I sure as heck can feel Him. That's what I know.
I also know that I accept ;D

I can't tell if church messes people up or not. Most people don't go to church and are stupid, but I don't either and I'd like to think that I'm not stupid.
Wunderbar, again! I accept your acceptance! ALL of our children shall be named Cynthia.

I went to church until I was fourteen, then I stopped because I didn't agree with my youth pastor. Just recently I started going again and am closer to him. I see his reasoning and though I don't agree with it I accept it. I was fine when I didn't go to church. (well in my opinion I was.) I still cuss now, and make lude jokes, but not as many as before.
And Fredrick. Every third child shall be named Fredrick.

I'm just too lazy, as terrible as that sounds. It doesn't help that most of the churches around here are simply boring and uninteresting. I know it's not about how interesting it is, but still.
I will compromise, I accept.

I, myself, go to a Baptist church (I'm from the South). I like it well enough. My beliefs are founded from this way of teaching, so I understand. And it's not really boring to me. :/ I'm sorry if it is to you. I hope you find a church soon that you like and doesn't bore you. :)
Great. Perfect. :) We will live happily ever after in the Land of Lollygagging.

Same here, the South part, surely were neighbors. I find most sermons repetitive, I'm sure there's a place out there for me, though. Thanks.
Sounds like a nice land, I'll bet that the magical land of Equestria is better, though.

Born and raised in Arkansas, so maybe not. XD Just gotta keep visiting those churches, find the one that fits... like an old pair of shoes. :)
Oooooh. :L not a Brony.....

People live in Arkansas? Woah! Yep-yep.
Oh dear. This is a disaster.

Yes people live in Arkasas. :p I still got all mah teef, too.
Oh, no!

Defying the odds, congratulations, good for you, and other miscellaneous verbal pats on the back.
You'd make a wonderful brony, dear.

"You're a disaster in a dress..." Hedley moment. Good song. :o
Oh, but I've never seen an episode. o.o

Max reply thingy.
Speaking of contemporary Christian music, I can't stand it.
Oh you simply must try it some time.
I must go to bed now! Goodnight!

okay. So. Not a contemporary Christian song (I'm not a fan of it myself. I am more in tune with the likes of Skillet and Red and such.) It's actually from a Canadian band called Hedley. Great people.
I will try one day. If you listen to Hedley, dear.
Good night sleep tight and the likes.

Do you have a Skype or something?
I rarely come on FJ, really.

Skype? ververyveryvery rarely.
Got a phone number though o.o
jk.


kinda

Hm, well, whatever you're comfortable with.
Do you have anything else that you check often?

Facebook.

YFW


You are an hero to Christians like us.

Thank you. :) But really I was just trying to say something true...

Thank you, dude.

Just pointing out a fact... :)

stay cool bro.

Thank you. I'm just glad I can say something like that without sounding snobbish because "oh I'm a Christian I love God This is how you should act/speak/think".

I try not to be that way because of people like you. Because even though you don't believe in God, I can still have a decent conversation with you without it being forced down my throat that I have an "imaginary friend."

Thank you man. I love you! :3

+1.

i'm sorry, but the final line..
Jesus loves me, this i know...
for the bible tells me so...
immediately thought of the splicers in bioshock

Oh gosh.... o.o

Don't remind me XD

I'm atheist and I agree. People try to shove shit down each others throats. Just believe what you believe and that's that. I believe in good morals, in that we are the same.

I respect that.
I understand. Though, because I am Christian, I will teach my kids the Bible. How they interpret it is their thing.

So lets put that "don,t judge" to the test. What do you think about Wicca? And satanism? Both are totally different btw.

As a Christian I believe you should be able to worship who or what you choose. I don't agree with worshiping satan but if someone wants to do it I wont throw a fit. If you want to believe no higher power/creator exists/ or a flying spaghetti monster made everything then fine by me.

Satanism isn't worshiping the devil exactly, it's more about living in indulgences. And i do believe in a higher power, the Lord and Lady. I am Wiccan, hence the name. And several other Gods and Goddesses.

not so much, some is true, but sacrificing and blood shed and all that really depends on how the person is. some use satanism as an excuse, though not a very good one, to do stupid stuff. i know a satanist who has never even killed a bug intentionally.

I never said satanism was worshiping the devil. I never said you didn't believe in a higher power. I know about wiccan beliefs.

"I don't agree with worshiping satan" and ". If you want to believe no higher power/creator exists" says you did. but hey im not trying to start a shitstorm, just sayin. alot of christians, actually 99%, are pushy, judgemental, and ignorant. not all but most.

Just kinda backing RainbowFright up here, but I see he said "If you WANT to believe..." Not saying you did or didn't, just that the possibility was there. Plus, He never said it outright that Satanism is worshipping Satan...

Thank you for actually reading what I said.

Welcome :)

I never said 'Satanism worships satan and I don't agree with it.' Nor did I say 'You don't believe in a higher power.' I said as you have also stated was that I said "I don't agree with worshiping satan but if someone wants to do it I wont throw a fit. If you want to believe no higher power/creator exists/ or a flying spaghetti monster made everything then fine by me." But hey, It's okay to twist my words if you want to think I also said you believe in the flying spaghetti monster. 'You' was more of 'everyone on the planet', you was just easier to say...I thought you would have figured that out...

I see what you're trying to get at, but assuming that those things are evil, it's not for Christians to judge, it's for God.

And a typical Christian "Amen" to you! :)

I know they both are. I don't agree. I wouldn't do them myself. I would attempt to show someone to Jesus, but I wouldn't shove it down their throats if they turn away. If they want to know more, they'll ask. I try not to push.

I don't know if I should reply to this or not. Frankly, I probably shouldn't.

I don't believe in a "magic man that makes all my wishes come true." I believe in a God that is there, always. I've said this in other comments. I know he's there, not because I hear His voice, but because He speaks to my heart. Some might call it a conscience, but that's their opinion. He'll never make all my wishes come true, because most of my wishes are selfish as all get-out. I know, however, that He only grants the wishes (or prayers) that mean something. That saying "all things happen for a reason" applies to God. He won't give you something if it won't help you in the long run. You may pray for a loved one to live after a lethal incident, but He may not want that, because it may make you grow as a person.

I hope you see what I'm getting at and don't thumb me down. I just wanted to get my point across that it's not what I believe.

Very cruel, but I thumbed up because of the hilarious image of the hick religious guy in my head.

Mature people know how to understand someone.

Let's say there is an all-powerful being that can do ANYTHING.
He could probably posses a donkey.

Favorite. This comment made my night :)

Daw, yay!

Because seriously, when you think about it. God can do ANYTHING. What makes you think He can't make a donkey talk?

That's actually a pretty funny thought. Wonder if he sounds like Eddie Murphey...

I don't get why people think that the craziness of most Biblical miracles automatically discredits them. It's God, He doesn't really need to be scientific.
I'm sure that the donkey was actually possessed by Eddie Murphey. Whenever God needs to make a donkey talk, he sends Eddie.

This is going to sound a little judgy when you first read it. So bare with me. There are people out in the world who don't see that part of the Bible. They see the weird crazy crap that goes down, but completely skip over the fact that HE IS GOD. He created this world from nothing. All that weird stuff is nil compared to that.
It reminds me of his phrase, "Do I detect a hint of hostility?"

Didn't sound judgy at all, I completely get what you mean. It also doesn't help when a lot of people only read the Bible to find things that seem unbelievable.

Yes! Exactly! :)
Thumbs and stuff.
Good night scooterpony.

Jesus didn't write the bible. Of course thier was going to be some stupid things in thier that weren't written by him. People were stupid back then and are now.

you can't even use proper grammar. And if your lord didn't write the bible, then how do you know what is in the bible is true?

And if that's the case, its absolutely stupid to believe people thousands of years ago had the universe figured out better than we do today. They made things up, just like every ancient civilization did.

I'm not christian/ I just understand them. But I do belive in a higher power. Why? Because I can't accept we are just here to be here. Call me stipid for that. But i feel that it is true. I might not be that well in grammer. But at least I know how to be mature. Thank you sir and have a good life.

1-Grammar has nothing to do with being a Christian/believing in God.
2-Technically, no, God DIDN'T write the Bible. He had His Disciples do it for Him, because He doesn't have a human form, unless you count Jesus. Jesus couldn't write the Old Testament-he wasn't alive. He couldn't write anything starting with Acts, because he wasn't alive, either.
3-They didn't have the universe figured out. They were writing down what God told them to. A lot of the Bible is morals anyway. Not exactly making things up here.
4-Thank you and good night.

Really? I don't understand that.
And He's not an imaginary friend. He's a friend. Maybe I can't see Him but that's what trust and faith and hope is for. He leads me. He doesn't "talk" to me in the sense that I hear voices. There are just times when I know what I need to do, like Someone is speaking to my heart.
It's a love thing. Maybe you will understand that.

That's not what agnostic means.

Agnosticism is a stance about the difference between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief. In the popular sense, an agnostic is someone who is undecided about the existence of a deity or deities. Basically what i said in a nutshell.

i just tried to sum it up the best i could sorry

Agnosticism is just lazy from the viewpoint of both Athiests and Christians

Agnosticism is accepting you're not intelligent enough to know for sure - like everyone else.

Well I can't speak for athiests, but most christians are not without their doubts.
We don't claim to know everything, we just pick a side.

im gonna have to disagree with you, on the whole, most of the christians i know (and i went to christian school for 12 years) are very "my way or the highway"

"I'm afraid you've had a very poor sampling."
-Tumnis

The original version of the old testament was hebrew, the new one was mainly greek. Genesis, part of the old testament, was originally in hebrew, but it didn't specify which type of tree it was. The most reasonable assumption is that it's a fig tree, because after eating the fruit Adam and Eve covered themselves with fig leaves. Not necessarily leaves from THAT tree.
It's all semantics and not really important to the big picture.

Isn't that the same as believing in any pantheon?
Unless you mean the god being a manifestation of an aspect of themselves, in which case it would be a variation of Humanism.

So Deism, Pandeism, Henotheism or Kathenotheism? I'm pretty sure they count as religions.

Meh, I only have one fuck to give, and guess to whom.

No you can be neither, you can just not give two shits one way or the other

I was brought up catholic, i think there is a God (My Religious studies teacher had a really good arguement which i've forgotten but im sticking with it) but i literally do not care at all. All arguements about it are pointless because you aren't going to convince an extremist.

If there is a god, Yay. If there isn't, Yay. I'll just be happy dying and finding out that one side of this clusterfuck of fuckwittery was wrong

Your right in pretty much everything you say anon, I realise that i was coming across as a bit of a pleb and i'm sorry for that. I just think that funnyjunk shouldn't be a forum for religious debate and was a bit rash with my comment.

Thanks for you're answer though, you seem very knowledgeable and you taught be a fair deal about semantics ;)

Agnosticism? Fool.

Agnosticism is a religion, it's the belief that there is a god, but what we know about him/her/it is wrong.

You're a goddamn fucking idiot. Agnosticism is a belief that we don't have enough information to know anything about whether there is a god or not. How can you be religious if you don't think we have enough information to know whether there is a god?

That's an Agnostic Theist...A pure agnostic believes the human has no rational grounds to justify the existence of deities or the non-existence...that's not really a religion. It's more, its an unknown question that we will never know or at least not know with the current mindset.

Jop

I, as an atheist, find them funny. If someone is going to act butthurt about this when making fun of death and disabilities is cool, then I really don't care what they think.

This is FJ. Everyone is butthurt over everything.

Doesn't mean we should add to the butthurt.

Eh, when I see the same amount of butthurt about things I don't find funny I'll start to care about religious people's feelings

If people such as yourself cared before the content goes up, then the butthurt would be decreased, thus reducing the amount of shitstorms. Rather than most of the atheist channel content which just mocks religion.

Okay consider this: I don't find making fun of people with mental disabilities funny. I think it's sick. But do I care if other people do? No. Do I care if they post about it and think it's a topic for humor? Nope. So when I laugh at an atheism post, it should be the same for everyone else. I've seen the most sensitive topics joked about with no remorse, yet when someone's sky wizard is questioned it ain't funny anymore? That's a person who can get over themselves and learn that the sensitive aspects of their lives can get torn apart too.

If God doesn't exist, then how do planets orbit a hat?
Christians:0
Atheists:0
TF2:1

They were concentrating on me.