Religion Vs Science

good point
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Thing is -
1. Your holy book promotes exactly what the "extremists" are saying. They're not extremists in the eyes of your god - they're the ideal person.
2. Hitler wasn't an atheist.

Okay-
1) Jesus talked about loving thy neighbor as you love thyself. I don't exactly see inflicting that much emotional distress and pain on the family which recently lost a love one as love.

2) Hitler wrote many contradictory statements about his faith. On one hand he claimed to be a Christian in Mein Kamph and on the other hand he also made many statements about how Christianity is horrible and how it is as bad for humanity as the pox. Regardless, he was a nutcase either way.

*mein kampf

1. ""Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me;" That's Jesus speaking right there.
There's hundreds of these quotes from the bible with Jesus, God or others talking about murder and destruction

2. He didn't claim to be a christian. He DID, however, make numerous references to god, and he was also raised as a roman catholic.
This is why the claim of "hitler was an atheist" is just irrelevant and plain wrong, and just blatantly provocative to try and distract people from your actual points.

That quote is not talking about murder
Jesus was saying that those who put other things before god in their lives are not truly practiing christianity
that does not mean "Go kill every muslim and jew out there"
Yes there is a lot of that in the old testament but a majority of the Old Testament was made irrelevant when Jesus came around

Basically, that quote is saying unless you are willing to put aside your entire family for Jesus, then you are going to suffer for eternity. That's the message.
Also, here's some NT quotes
-"Now I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ. The head of the woman is the man. And the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered brings shame on his head. 5 And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered brings shame on her head. It is just as if her head were shaved. What if a woman does not cover her head? She should have her hair cut off. But it is shameful for her to cut her hair or shave it off. So she should cover her head. A man should not cover his head. He is the likeness and glory of God. But the woman is the glory of the man. 8 The man did not come from the woman. The woman came from the man. Also, the man was not created for the woman. The woman was created for the man. 10 That's why a woman should have her head covered. It shows that she is under authority"
TL;DR basically that women are inferior to men
""So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds."
TL;DR jesus willingly torturing people
There's many more. Here's a link. http://www.truthbeknown.com/christianscript.htm

Yes you are right in Christianity men are superior to women.. and that second part is from revelations... which is some prophets visions of the second coming of jesus... where Those who did not follow jesus (who could have) are sent to hell and his followers go to heaven (something like that) so yeah it is going to be violent, and mind you it is not actually jesus' words on earth
But i personally agree that there are countless things wrong with religion... I'm practically agnostic myself.... but i believe the true overall big picture idea of Christianity, and even Islam is peace, tolerance, coexistence and self betterment.... then people get involved

I can agree with that, the general message that is actually TAUGHT today is overall peaceful (except for the antihomosexuality and some of the racism you see all the time today), but if you actually dig deeper into the religion you see it is pretty much the exact opposite. Same goes for islam.
But it's when people read what the bible says, decides that it is the absolute truth, and then they blatantly contradict what modern science and morality tells us - that's when there's a problem, and then they have the audacity to claim that WE are wrong, simply based on what a book tells them.
Peaceful religion? Go ahead. But don't have the nerve to call scientists wrong or liars.

He wasn't Christian either.

Would you rather have HIV/AIDS that could take 30 years to kill you, or cancer that could take 3?

Think about it.

You can never live a normal life again with HIV.

How do you mean?

>Cant have sex without condom
>people wont want to touch you cause they think they will catch it
>hate crimes
Hate crimes have happend to people with HIV

>"Sex life".... yes I agree
>"Hate crimes"... I feel like it's mostly because they're probably gay more than the fact that they have HIV
>"People wont want to touch you".... that's bullshit, no one is that Ignorant.

Ive seen it bro

I know, I see how it can be better in some cases. It just sounds odd when you say it.

So, all Muslims aren't terrorists? What else haven't you told me???

I love you

Thanks, I was expecting a dickload of hate for that comment.

Goes to show, were not all dickless fags who sit behind our computers and try to sound tough by shoving our radical opinions down people's throats.

forgot picture

I think what it is, is that some religious politicians and other religious people in real life shove shit down peoples throats, and most atheists dont want to tell them to their face that they dont believe in what they believe in, so they post the shit everywhere on the internet.

Personally Im an Atheist, and Ive seen both asshole religious people and asshole Atheists in real life. Hell I was in a class with people from both sides last semester and it was awkward as fuck.

that's because Christians don't have a sense of humor.

he pretended to be a christian because germany was a very christian country at te time, and he planned on taking power through charisma rather than a hostile takeover. in reality he was atheist

The definition of universe is everything that exists, and was created by science, AFTER the whole writing of the bible thing. It's generally used to describe space and it's endlessness, but then if you delve into multi dimensions you move into the "multi-verse" concept which I never really understood. Because frankly, If the universe is "EVERYTHING" that exists, then wouldn't the multi-verse still be part of the universe?

God and creation is something more metaphysical that lies outside the bounds or the universe itself, which consequently moves into the Multi-verse realm.

I have no point to this. I'm just throwing into the "something to think about" pile.

You're playing with definitions. Language is flawed.

By the way, you're assuming I believe in everything that is proven or theorized by scientists. Isn't that was most christians complain about, people assuming that they believe in EVERYTHING the bible says?

No to all of the above. As I said, I have no point, just food for thought.

Notice I didn't mention you or your beliefs at all in my statement, nor make any assumptions as to your thought processes. Nor did I play with definitions, I simply listed a definition.

Again all I posted was something to think about, I'm making no deductions, arguments, or assumptions about any beliefs here, but I will move forward to give you some even more interesting things, and begin making assumptions, and I have a point his time.

I'm going to assume your view is rather narrow since the "universe thing" turned you off to religion completely. Your use of the term "mythical being" rather than simply saying "god" shows obvious contempt and intent to insult anyone who believes a religion.

So based on these assumptions I'll ask you a question.
When was science created? Actually let me define that a little better, when were the physical and natural laws that science discovers created?

My guess is your response would be never, they always existed, and you would be correct.

Is it hard to believe that a "mythical being" which is paramountly defined as being unfathomable to the human mind might actually BE those laws, and much more?

My point is, God and what he is, what he does, and why he does these things, are no more understandable by humans than humans are understood by their pets, or even the microbes that course through our bodies.

Do you think your cat (pretend you have a cat if you don't) has even the slightest idea why you sit in your chair for hours on end staring at the glowing square in front of you? Or why you leave home almost everyday for absolutely no reason other than you always do?

You know what your doing, you understand, but to a lesser being the ability to comprehend is non-existent. There are concepts involved that their minds are not capable of processing.

Is it such a stretch of the imagination that "god" is far higher above us than you are above your cat?