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#258
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N. Korean citizen (05/21/2012) [-] I don't know about other Christians, but whenever i get into an argument with an Atheist, I always know more about the bible. And if they say something i don't believe is in the bible, or they took out of context, i just pull out the Ol' Bible and watch them take it back. MFW I gain the upper hand.
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starkindustries (05/21/2012) [-] MFW you think that using ancient text written by many different people that has been modified 1000's of times over 1000's of years with no scientific support whatsoever is a credible and valid source of evidence in any reasonable argument.
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starkindustries (05/21/2012) [-] Alright well let's see how you do.
Some of my favorite verses
"Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed." Exodus 22:20
If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. 2 John 1:10
I could seriously go on forever... Violence, intolerance, hatred, etc. I don't even have to take things out of context to do it and go ahead, please tell me you're not supposed to follow the old testament anymore so I can show you three different places that say you should.
Some of my favorite verses
"Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed." Exodus 22:20
If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. 2 John 1:10
I could seriously go on forever... Violence, intolerance, hatred, etc. I don't even have to take things out of context to do it and go ahead, please tell me you're not supposed to follow the old testament anymore so I can show you three different places that say you should.
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potatopotato (05/21/2012) [-] We're not under the Old Testament law any more. Christians are now under the Law of Christ. Please show me a verse that explicitly says that Christians today are supposed to follow the Old Testaments laws, under penalty of being sent to hell. I would be glad to change my mind.
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starkindustries (05/21/2012) [-] I somehow doubt you'll change your mind. I think in fact you'll somehow twist the verses meaning to suit you rather than see them for what they actually say but hey, here goes nothing.
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)
"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)
"Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)
"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)
"Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)
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theexo (05/21/2012) [-] i love how you are combatting him with bible versesd. didn't you just say "MFW you think that using ancient text written by many different people that has been modified 1000's of times over 1000's of years with no scientific support whatsoever is a credible and valid source of evidence in any reasonable argument" stop contridicting yourself. i'll interpret my religion however i damn well please and you can deal with it.
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starkindustries (05/21/2012) [-] I don't think the bible is useful as a source of evidence for the existence of God. However, when arguing ethics, yes, you sort of have to use the bible to argue the ethics of christianity. I absolutely don't have to deal with it when it would infringe upon my rights. However if you keep your bullshit to yourself then we'll be fine.
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theexo (05/21/2012) [-] well i'll keep my "bullshit" to myself and you will keep your opinions to yourself. and heres a hint, the fastest way for people on the internet to not shit storm you is to present your opinions without words like "bullshit" and "dumbasses" i don't care how right you think you are it gives you no right or reason to argue like a middle schooler.
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starkindustries (05/26/2012) [-] I was raised as a Christian for 22 years. I know more about the bible than 90% of the Christians I know. That's WHY I am no longer religious. You may not, as I said, but the nature of Christianity as a global religion is spreading through violence.
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starkindustries (05/26/2012) [-] It's not a matter of individual interpretation to me. Look at the 2000 year war. There will NEVER be peace in the middle east as long as religion is around.
It's a matter of violence and hatred, intolerance, with religious "sanction".
It's a matter of violence and hatred, intolerance, with religious "sanction".
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starkindustries (05/26/2012) [-] It won't let me reply to your last comment anymore so I'll do it here.
1. Religion has caused more violence and death than any other socioeconomic factor combined. So yes, war would still exist, but a fraction of it.
2. World peace is possible. Go watch the 3 latest youtube videos I posted with an open mind. See how small we are and how infinitely complex we are.
1. Religion has caused more violence and death than any other socioeconomic factor combined. So yes, war would still exist, but a fraction of it.
2. World peace is possible. Go watch the 3 latest youtube videos I posted with an open mind. See how small we are and how infinitely complex we are.
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theexo (05/27/2012) [-] these videos are amazing. but it just shows that neither side really has any fucking idea what is going on. we CAN live together and these wars can be blamed on lack of information as well as religion. the fact is that wars are based on two or more people or two or more different people with two different ideas. and as we all gain information and become smarter we will realize that what we're doing this flame war is pointless. the fact is you cannot prove my God doesn't exhist the same way i cannot prove he does. That's what it means to have faith, and not everyone does. neither of us can prove our claim until we're dead and by then we have wasted so much time arguing that our lives had no real purpose. being Christian does not mean we are opposed to science, we all have questions and we all seek answers and that is our drive to understand the world around us. ideas become thoughts, thoughts become words, words become actions and if we continue this flamewar it could very well lead to actions if it hasn't already.
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potatopotato (05/21/2012) [-] Nah man. I'm here to simply discuss, not argue. I just like defending my faith :).
Okay so obviously there is a major theme in all of these verses, which you believe is that Christians must uphold the law of the Old Testament. So instead of going verse by verse I'll try answering them all together, saving both of us time. The Old Testament was written way before the coming of Christ. The Old Testament was written to people that weren't behaving like God was telling them to, so he gave them the Old Testament Laws. Basically you had to follow all of these laws perfectly to be able to go to heaven...well...no one could do this, except Jesus. Jesus followed the law and fulfilled it, making it so now Christians don't have to suffer in hell for just being the sinners we are. Jesus accomplished (from the first verse you posted) and fulfilled (from the 3rd one you posted) the law.
For the last two verses. So all of the bible is pretty much from God, interpreted by man. It would be ignorant for a Christian to ignore what GOD was telling us. It all plays a role somewhere in the the overall story of Christianity.
I hope this helps.
Okay so obviously there is a major theme in all of these verses, which you believe is that Christians must uphold the law of the Old Testament. So instead of going verse by verse I'll try answering them all together, saving both of us time. The Old Testament was written way before the coming of Christ. The Old Testament was written to people that weren't behaving like God was telling them to, so he gave them the Old Testament Laws. Basically you had to follow all of these laws perfectly to be able to go to heaven...well...no one could do this, except Jesus. Jesus followed the law and fulfilled it, making it so now Christians don't have to suffer in hell for just being the sinners we are. Jesus accomplished (from the first verse you posted) and fulfilled (from the 3rd one you posted) the law.
For the last two verses. So all of the bible is pretty much from God, interpreted by man. It would be ignorant for a Christian to ignore what GOD was telling us. It all plays a role somewhere in the the overall story of Christianity.
I hope this helps.
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starkindustries (05/21/2012) [-] He says that the law still applies though. He has fulfilled it and your punishment will be less severe (if you want to call it that. Under new testament you should gouge out your eye and burn in hell forever for looking at someone with lust, Old testament it was just punishment by death.) It does not mean do not follow the law.
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N. Korean citizen (05/21/2012) [-] The first two are trying to drill into your head "GOD COMES FIRST!" "YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN,GOD IS FIRST!" Back before Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice, things were very different, people died. The second basically means that if say, a Jehovah witness comes and says "hey, were here to tell you about the glory of Jehovah" i say "Sorry, I'm Christian, i have a firm belief in my faith already, thank you for your time, goodbye". Sorry, but you took those out of context and/or gave them a more sinister meaning then they really have.
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Reverend (05/21/2012) [-] how IN ANY WAY is he taking those out of context? It says to put people to death for having different beliefs. This is the definition of intolerance and feeds ignorance.
Your explanation is just you trying to modify what it explicitly says to fit a more rational meaning to keep up with today's societal standards! Similar to the same bullshit that is intelligent design.
Your explanation is just you trying to modify what it explicitly says to fit a more rational meaning to keep up with today's societal standards! Similar to the same bullshit that is intelligent design.
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potatopotato (05/21/2012) [-] Those laws were given to the slaves in Egypt, not to the people today...of course we're not supposed to follow that. This is especially shown from the fact that our Christ came to fulfill the law, which in our belief system he did. Basically this means that the laws of say, Exodus, don't send us to hell. We follow Christ now, not the Old Testament. Christians today don't have to uphold the Old Testament laws.
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Reverend (05/21/2012) [-] There isnt any laws today because your god, assuming he is even real, hasnt been around for almost 2000 years. This was given after the slaves left, this should be common sense to you. YOU CANT JUST TAKE HALF OF YOUR RELIGION AND SINCE IT MAKES YOU LOOK BAD SAY "OH JUST IGNORE THAT PART ITS SILLY" ITS HALF OF THE FUCKING BIBLE. Christianity breeds ignorance, hypocrisy, and hatred, has killed millions, and gives false hope. Its truly disgusting.
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potatopotato (05/22/2012) [-] Because the Law of Christ was the final law, that is, to love God and to love your neighbor. There was no need for other laws after that because salvation is now available for us. And by all means, I am not ignoring 'half of my religion'. If this was the case then the Old Testament would not exist any more. The Old Testament is full of prophecy and parallels to Christ that is necessary for the bible and for the foundation of Christianity. And making baseless claims about Christianity being ignorant, hypocritical, or hateful is in itself ignorant, hypocritical, and hateful. Without true understanding of Christianity I can see how one could say such things...
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Reverend (05/22/2012) [-] Ive been to christian schools my entire life.
>hateful - Do you not know about the issues with gay marriage?
>ignorant - "Questioning god? He made the brain cells you think with" Status on Fb from a Christian friend
>Hypocritical - Love & Compassion ---> Spanish inquisition.
"There is no need for the other laws but im not ignoring them" That right there is hypocrisy.
>hateful - Do you not know about the issues with gay marriage?
>ignorant - "Questioning god? He made the brain cells you think with" Status on Fb from a Christian friend
>Hypocritical - Love & Compassion ---> Spanish inquisition.
"There is no need for the other laws but im not ignoring them" That right there is hypocrisy.
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potatopotato (05/23/2012) [-] I've been to countless bible studies, and I actually go to a Christian university that requires theology courses.
Hateful....you can't BLAME the issue that proclaimed Christians have with homosexuals on Christianity itself. You can blame that on people's ignorance, not on Christianity. When you don't follow the true teachings of Christ you treat someone with hate. I don't recall Jesus condemning anyone to Hell, so why does anyone think they can do what our Christ never did? Ignorance of how Christians try to interpret scripture. Don't categorize all Christians to be the same.
Ignorant. Simply put, God made us the way he did so we could choose him or not choose him. How fun would it be to live in a society that everyone HAS to worship God. God gave us the option to chose him.
And I'm not exactly sure where you pulled that last 'quote' from....or where you're getting your definition of hypocrisy from. I'm not ignoring the laws, but that definitely does not mean that I'm abiding by them. If I said there was no need for the other laws, but I'm following them, that would be hypocrisy. That is not what I said.
I'm only responsible for what I say, not what you understand.
Hateful....you can't BLAME the issue that proclaimed Christians have with homosexuals on Christianity itself. You can blame that on people's ignorance, not on Christianity. When you don't follow the true teachings of Christ you treat someone with hate. I don't recall Jesus condemning anyone to Hell, so why does anyone think they can do what our Christ never did? Ignorance of how Christians try to interpret scripture. Don't categorize all Christians to be the same.
Ignorant. Simply put, God made us the way he did so we could choose him or not choose him. How fun would it be to live in a society that everyone HAS to worship God. God gave us the option to chose him.
And I'm not exactly sure where you pulled that last 'quote' from....or where you're getting your definition of hypocrisy from. I'm not ignoring the laws, but that definitely does not mean that I'm abiding by them. If I said there was no need for the other laws, but I'm following them, that would be hypocrisy. That is not what I said.
I'm only responsible for what I say, not what you understand.
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Reverend (05/23/2012) [-] Im pretty sure i can blame it on christianity when there is a verse...(leviticus 22? it escapes me, i digress) That talks about killing homosexuals and is a staple point in the arguing against gay marriage.
If youre basing your religions off of the teachings of jesus what is the point of the old testament? You might as well say fuck the 10 commandments.
Also God did not give the people free will. As a matter of fact, he put free will in the tree of knowledge which he restricted anyone from eating. So, i will thank satan for critical thinking.
If youre basing your religions off of the teachings of jesus what is the point of the old testament? You might as well say fuck the 10 commandments.
Also God did not give the people free will. As a matter of fact, he put free will in the tree of knowledge which he restricted anyone from eating. So, i will thank satan for critical thinking.
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starkindustries (05/21/2012) [-] No I didn't. I gave them exactly as they are given in the New International version of the bible. They don't mean to politely dismiss those of other faith, they command violence upon them. How the fuck do you jump from "Kill" to "Sorry, those aren't my beliefs."
