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Second time I see you using that picture in 10 minutes of browsing, you are going to enjoy it aren't you?
btw I like how the anonymoss atheist is anonymous, not very willing to show himself but still browsig this site? yeah, great...
btw I like how the anonymoss atheist is anonymous, not very willing to show himself but still browsig this site? yeah, great...
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fagmastertwotausan (05/15/2012) [-]
ok satan punishes people who are not accepted into heaven by jesus. satan wants to punish everybody, but god saves his believers. a lot of people say if god was good, he would save eveybody right? well think of god as your parent. he loves you with all he is and he wants the best for you, but he wont give you everything you want. and he certainly wont give you eternal joy if you dont obey him
1) Wow, I love how you think Satan punishes anyone. Misinformed Christian right off the bat.
2) Hell doesn't exist, it was a scare tactic created by the church and mistranslation. The only reference ever made to our souls suffering is that after the final battle between Michael and Satan, that those who STILL deny Jesus afterwards would be cast into the pit of burning sulfur with Satan.
3) Wow, so you just personified God? I love knowing you believe in a God that is has human logic and thoughts.
4) Your parents must have sucked... giving you an infinite punishment beyond all punishments for not obeying everything you said to the damned dot, even though what you said was completely irrational and had absolutely nothing to back it up. In fact, the kid couldn't even hear you. You told some homeless guy to write it on a napkin and slide it under your neighbors door where he would rewrite it and give it to ever other person in the city, then to the kid. Yup, he's great!
5) Only too options - Eternal joy and Eternal suffering. But he'd rather give eternal suffering than joy because he "loves" you.
6) And remember that pit of sulfur I told you about? Yeah, that's for 1,000 years. Then everyone gets out and is allowed back into heaven for eternal joy. Even Satan. That's right, you guys are all about Hell being eternal damnation, but it's 1,000 years and then forever of joy. Then again, with this description of God, I'm not sure I'd want to leave that cozy pit.
2) Hell doesn't exist, it was a scare tactic created by the church and mistranslation. The only reference ever made to our souls suffering is that after the final battle between Michael and Satan, that those who STILL deny Jesus afterwards would be cast into the pit of burning sulfur with Satan.
3) Wow, so you just personified God? I love knowing you believe in a God that is has human logic and thoughts.
4) Your parents must have sucked... giving you an infinite punishment beyond all punishments for not obeying everything you said to the damned dot, even though what you said was completely irrational and had absolutely nothing to back it up. In fact, the kid couldn't even hear you. You told some homeless guy to write it on a napkin and slide it under your neighbors door where he would rewrite it and give it to ever other person in the city, then to the kid. Yup, he's great!
5) Only too options - Eternal joy and Eternal suffering. But he'd rather give eternal suffering than joy because he "loves" you.
6) And remember that pit of sulfur I told you about? Yeah, that's for 1,000 years. Then everyone gets out and is allowed back into heaven for eternal joy. Even Satan. That's right, you guys are all about Hell being eternal damnation, but it's 1,000 years and then forever of joy. Then again, with this description of God, I'm not sure I'd want to leave that cozy pit.
Satan doesn't punish evil doers, he suffers with them. in Dante's inferno he is frozen solid upside down in a lake of ice in the last level of hell. It's a common misconception, so try not to use it to argue atheism or you'll end up looking pretty stupid.
Not tryin to be a dick, just trying to do what I can to stop misinformation.
Not tryin to be a dick, just trying to do what I can to stop misinformation.
Just saying because I get this alot, imagine if Hitler punished every Nazi for their cruel acts towards nature, obviously everybody would see Hitler was the one who made them like that in the first place. You see where I'm coming from?
Alright now I see what your saying. I just don't understand the whole thing where Christians will say all atheists should die and killing them all would be good when one of the 10 commandments is Thou shalt not kill. Same thing with all the religious wars.
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fagmastertwotausan (05/15/2012) [-]
im not trying to be a dick, im just trying to provide the perspecive of believing christians. one easy argument to this is that god made science to see what people will believe. not so sure i like that one. my personal belief is that god may have jump started evolution. it says in the bible that a day to god is eons to humans. so the seven days it took for him to create the universe could be however many eons the universe has existed. plus the order in which god created the universe is the order in which evolution occurred (for the most part).
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drhandjob (05/15/2012) [-]
I do like reading some stuff about what people believe. And some I do like. But they still doesn't really make sense to me ( I fully respect you and all who are religious ).
I used to believe in god. That god was the conscience helping us choosing right and wrong sometimes.
I used to believe in god. That god was the conscience helping us choosing right and wrong sometimes.
I like how you are open to options! Most are just... bleh. Anyway, you seem like a good guy, so I'll help prove your religion and help your spiritualism rather than crush it!
So you are kind of right, but kind of wrong.
Read Genesis in the original Hebrew and with scientific perspective. The word for time is actually literally meaning "an amount of time." So yes, these "days" were actually extremely massive amounts of time. You can trace every event in Genesis with a scientific explanation.
Big Bang - Formation of Solar System and stars and galaxies - Cooling of Earth - Earth becoming habitable - plants and animals evolve - humans evolve. The best part is that Genesis has a completely unknown origin, and predates the religions by quite a bit. Therefore may actually be written by divine hand. It's one of the reasons I'm not full on atheist, and will completely accept and believe any rational proof of non-physical existance!
So you are kind of right, but kind of wrong.
Read Genesis in the original Hebrew and with scientific perspective. The word for time is actually literally meaning "an amount of time." So yes, these "days" were actually extremely massive amounts of time. You can trace every event in Genesis with a scientific explanation.
Big Bang - Formation of Solar System and stars and galaxies - Cooling of Earth - Earth becoming habitable - plants and animals evolve - humans evolve. The best part is that Genesis has a completely unknown origin, and predates the religions by quite a bit. Therefore may actually be written by divine hand. It's one of the reasons I'm not full on atheist, and will completely accept and believe any rational proof of non-physical existance!