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shinigamigod (05/14/2012) [-] 1) It is not a Star it is a sun.
Stars do not technically exist as they're all just suns.
We called them stars because we did not know they were suns like our own at the time.
2) It is not a dwarf either.
3) They're not always white.
Some can be red and others can be light blue.
Stars do not technically exist as they're all just suns.
We called them stars because we did not know they were suns like our own at the time.
2) It is not a dwarf either.
3) They're not always white.
Some can be red and others can be light blue.
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unknownbytes (05/14/2012) [-] Pay no attention to shinigamigod, we purposely trained him wrong...as a joke.
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McBalls ONLINE (05/14/2012) [-] How is it not a dwarf or a star? The fucking question was asking what are characteristics of a "white dwarf star". Dwarf stars are small, low mass stars that burn off their hydrogen faster than regular sized ones. White dwarfs are from collapsed larger stars. Stop posting, you're making an ass of yourself.
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hillko (05/14/2012) [-] I have read all of your comments on this thread, gave you the benefit of the doubt, and assumed you were trolling, but after looking at your profile I noticed that every single comment you've ever made and even the bio on your profile has the same condescending, "I'm superior" attitude . After reviewing all of that I would just like to say that I truly hate you as a human being. That is all, good day
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ilikebigdick (05/14/2012) [-] 1. Star is the general term for those white dots you see in the sky
2. Technically no, but compared to VY Canis Majoris, its fucking tiny
3. If it was red then it would be a red dwarf
2. Technically no, but compared to VY Canis Majoris, its fucking tiny
3. If it was red then it would be a red dwarf
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N. Korean citizen (05/14/2012) [-] According to Merriam-Webster, definition 4 of "dwarf": a star (as the sun) of ordinary or low luminosity and relatively small mass and size.
Confirmed by National Geographic: "White dwarfs typically have a radius just .01 times that of our own sun, but their mass is about the same."
Nat. Geo on "the sun": "The sun is a big star."
And Encyclopedia Britannica on"dwarf star": "dwarf star, any star of average or low luminosity, mass, and size. Important subclasses of dwarf stars are white dwarfs (see white dwarf star) and red dwarfs. Dwarf stars include so-called main-sequence stars, among which is the Sun. The colour of dwarf stars can range from blue to red, the corresponding temperature varying from high (above 10,000 K) to low (a few thousand K).
Pic related: A white dwarf star size comparison with Earth, taken from Ohio State University astronomy page.
I hope you're trolling, because your idiocy is off the charts.
Confirmed by National Geographic: "White dwarfs typically have a radius just .01 times that of our own sun, but their mass is about the same."
Nat. Geo on "the sun": "The sun is a big star."
And Encyclopedia Britannica on"dwarf star": "dwarf star, any star of average or low luminosity, mass, and size. Important subclasses of dwarf stars are white dwarfs (see white dwarf star) and red dwarfs. Dwarf stars include so-called main-sequence stars, among which is the Sun. The colour of dwarf stars can range from blue to red, the corresponding temperature varying from high (above 10,000 K) to low (a few thousand K).
Pic related: A white dwarf star size comparison with Earth, taken from Ohio State University astronomy page.
I hope you're trolling, because your idiocy is off the charts.
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crackboots (05/14/2012) [-]
the sun is a star, we named it the sun like we named our moon luna and this planet earth.
dwarf is a stellar class, like hyper-giant/giant.
white dwarfs are the remains of normal sized star, like our sun.
red/brown dwarfs aren't remains but rather very tiny stars they don't accurately name the colour but rather the nature of the star.
dwarf is a stellar class, like hyper-giant/giant.
white dwarfs are the remains of normal sized star, like our sun.
red/brown dwarfs aren't remains but rather very tiny stars they don't accurately name the colour but rather the nature of the star.
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shinigamigod (05/14/2012) [-] All three statements.
A star is better used to describe a 5 pointed shape than it does a sun.
Not only that but it also describes a celebrity better than it does a sun.
We call them stars when we look at them at a distance however when we look at them individually we call them suns.
That is simply flawed logic.
It is not technically a dwarf because a dwarf means it would be out of proportion, it is better to use the term small to describe it as the requirements that would be a dwarf sun would be that parts of it wont be in proportion to the rest of it.
They're not white because white is a very specific colour that not only can we not confirm at such a large distance but would imply the entire body of it is white, which is simply incorrect, not to mention there are red dwarf suns and blue dwarf suns.
It is mostly about the proportions of it really, if the universes largest sun was to go into the dwarf state of its lifespan, it'd still be larger than our own sun, therefore using size as a unit of measurement when nearly none of them are similar enough for us to have a valid average is completely pointless.
It is just another one of the many scientific things they have simplified so that the common person could understand it.
I have never seen the need to simplify it, so I don't.
A star is better used to describe a 5 pointed shape than it does a sun.
Not only that but it also describes a celebrity better than it does a sun.
We call them stars when we look at them at a distance however when we look at them individually we call them suns.
That is simply flawed logic.
It is not technically a dwarf because a dwarf means it would be out of proportion, it is better to use the term small to describe it as the requirements that would be a dwarf sun would be that parts of it wont be in proportion to the rest of it.
They're not white because white is a very specific colour that not only can we not confirm at such a large distance but would imply the entire body of it is white, which is simply incorrect, not to mention there are red dwarf suns and blue dwarf suns.
It is mostly about the proportions of it really, if the universes largest sun was to go into the dwarf state of its lifespan, it'd still be larger than our own sun, therefore using size as a unit of measurement when nearly none of them are similar enough for us to have a valid average is completely pointless.
It is just another one of the many scientific things they have simplified so that the common person could understand it.
I have never seen the need to simplify it, so I don't.
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sunnyday ONLINE (05/14/2012) [-] >A star is better used to describe a 5 pointed shape than it does a sun.
By that logic, a pentagon is a star. And so is everything else with 5 corners.
I'm not even going to bother with the rest of this comment. You're simply too self-righteous and retarded to reason with. But if I had to I would point out a few more flaws in your logic.
>a dwarf means it would be out of proportion
When dwarf is used to describe a person, then they would be disproportionate. Because they are small. You do not call conjoined twins "dwarf". Neither would you call someone with a disproportionate head a "dwarf". Dwarfism is a condition that makes you grow to a maximum height of around 4 ft. The reason the term dwarf is used with both the white dwarf stars and black dwarf stars is because they have shrunk down to the size of the earth because it is at the end of it's life span. Our sun (Note: Sun is just a name given to our own star that resides in the centre of our solar system. Nothing more.) will also become a white dwarf star in 4 billion years when it comes to the end of it's life. The after a few more billion years, it'll turn into a black dwarf.
They're white. Why is it white? Because a white dwarf is a dying star giving out an immense amount of light energy. It's so bright, that it is indeed, white. Once it stops giving out light energy, it'll turn into a black dwarf star and be completely dead.
The universes largest star would not go into a dwarf state. It would be a red super giant. And it would be huge. Bigger than a trillion of our own sun. Probably bigger. A star this size, when at the end of it's life, would either go supernova or turn into a black hole.
No, this is not simplified. You're stupid. You made this entire thing up. I should know. I'm taking a college course is all the sciences right now, as well as A-levels in physics. You're making the rest of us Brits look stupid.
Don't go pretending you know things that you don't have a damn clue about.
/rebuttal.
By that logic, a pentagon is a star. And so is everything else with 5 corners.
I'm not even going to bother with the rest of this comment. You're simply too self-righteous and retarded to reason with. But if I had to I would point out a few more flaws in your logic.
>a dwarf means it would be out of proportion
When dwarf is used to describe a person, then they would be disproportionate. Because they are small. You do not call conjoined twins "dwarf". Neither would you call someone with a disproportionate head a "dwarf". Dwarfism is a condition that makes you grow to a maximum height of around 4 ft. The reason the term dwarf is used with both the white dwarf stars and black dwarf stars is because they have shrunk down to the size of the earth because it is at the end of it's life span. Our sun (Note: Sun is just a name given to our own star that resides in the centre of our solar system. Nothing more.) will also become a white dwarf star in 4 billion years when it comes to the end of it's life. The after a few more billion years, it'll turn into a black dwarf.
They're white. Why is it white? Because a white dwarf is a dying star giving out an immense amount of light energy. It's so bright, that it is indeed, white. Once it stops giving out light energy, it'll turn into a black dwarf star and be completely dead.
The universes largest star would not go into a dwarf state. It would be a red super giant. And it would be huge. Bigger than a trillion of our own sun. Probably bigger. A star this size, when at the end of it's life, would either go supernova or turn into a black hole.
No, this is not simplified. You're stupid. You made this entire thing up. I should know. I'm taking a college course is all the sciences right now, as well as A-levels in physics. You're making the rest of us Brits look stupid.
Don't go pretending you know things that you don't have a damn clue about.
/rebuttal.
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Crusader (05/14/2012) [-] There is more than one sun.
The proper comparison to the sun would be if you are in an area situated around one town.
Let us use the parallel world of "The Walking Dead" the series on AMC.
In the first season they reference to Atlanta as The City, it is not the only city, but it is the only city that they can be talking about.
Our sun can be called The Sun, or A Sun, as it is our only sun, but one of millions of suns throughout the universe.
The proper comparison to the sun would be if you are in an area situated around one town.
Let us use the parallel world of "The Walking Dead" the series on AMC.
In the first season they reference to Atlanta as The City, it is not the only city, but it is the only city that they can be talking about.
Our sun can be called The Sun, or A Sun, as it is our only sun, but one of millions of suns throughout the universe.
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Crusader (05/14/2012) [-] A sun is a star that is the center of a solar system and has planets that are in continuous orbit around it.
All suns are stars, but not all stars are suns.
You are thinking of a pentagram, which is used to symbolize stars because they are easy to draw.
It is considered a dwarf since the comparison between it and an "average" star (for which we use our sun, is much like the Earth compared to Jupiter, in which case we are dwarfed.
It is called a white dwarf because when you look at it, it is white. Yes there can be red and blue, green and even purple ones, but those are not white dwarf stars, white dwarf stars are only white. Like how only black people can be considered african-american, and not white people, as white people from Africa are called Afrikaners.
All suns are stars, but not all stars are suns.
You are thinking of a pentagram, which is used to symbolize stars because they are easy to draw.
It is considered a dwarf since the comparison between it and an "average" star (for which we use our sun, is much like the Earth compared to Jupiter, in which case we are dwarfed.
It is called a white dwarf because when you look at it, it is white. Yes there can be red and blue, green and even purple ones, but those are not white dwarf stars, white dwarf stars are only white. Like how only black people can be considered african-american, and not white people, as white people from Africa are called Afrikaners.
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N. Korean citizen (05/14/2012) [-]
Believe me,I have been in a lot of discussions with morons who could only reply with stupid pictures to my arguments,but in this case,you are just an obnoxious kid trying to defend pointless ideas.
And in any case; it is called dwarf because compared with other stars,GUESS WHAT?,THEY ARE DWARFS,OR SMALL,WHO THE FUCK CARES?,THE GUY WHO DISCOVERED THEM DECIDED TO CALL THEM DWARF NOT SMALL,DEAL WITH IT!!!!
2.White is not refered to color,they are called white BECAUSE DEPENDING ON THE TEMPERATURE OF THE STAR THEY HAVE DIFFERENT COLORS,AND WHITE IS THE FUCKING HOTTEST,SO THEY ARE FUCKING WHITE,IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THEY ARE NOT WHITE THEN ANY SCIENTIST COULDNT KNOW ITS AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WITH ITS NAME.SO STFU
3.And third, STAR AND SUN ARE THE SAME WORD,POTATO POTATO,WHO CARES?,STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT DISGUSTING NERD
IN ANY CASE SHUT THE FUCK UP,YOU ARE REALLY OBNOXIOUS
And in any case; it is called dwarf because compared with other stars,GUESS WHAT?,THEY ARE DWARFS,OR SMALL,WHO THE FUCK CARES?,THE GUY WHO DISCOVERED THEM DECIDED TO CALL THEM DWARF NOT SMALL,DEAL WITH IT!!!!
2.White is not refered to color,they are called white BECAUSE DEPENDING ON THE TEMPERATURE OF THE STAR THEY HAVE DIFFERENT COLORS,AND WHITE IS THE FUCKING HOTTEST,SO THEY ARE FUCKING WHITE,IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THEY ARE NOT WHITE THEN ANY SCIENTIST COULDNT KNOW ITS AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WITH ITS NAME.SO STFU
3.And third, STAR AND SUN ARE THE SAME WORD,POTATO POTATO,WHO CARES?,STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT DISGUSTING NERD
IN ANY CASE SHUT THE FUCK UP,YOU ARE REALLY OBNOXIOUS
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zwappes (05/14/2012) [-] star or astro if you will was a word that came up long before your beloved pentagon, and you can not prove that either of us are wrong inn tha state that the ''star'' is white
and A white dwarf, also called a degenerate dwarf, is a small star composed mostly of electron-degenerate matter. They are very dense
i sent it to the wrong comment so now i look like you, ie a retard
and A white dwarf, also called a degenerate dwarf, is a small star composed mostly of electron-degenerate matter. They are very dense
i sent it to the wrong comment so now i look like you, ie a retard
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shinigamigod (05/14/2012) [-] I never said that a Star was never used to describe that which we now know are suns.
I simply pointed out that it no longer accurate and its meaning is purely subjective and therefore is a null argument, meanings of words change, just because people are attached to the childhood concept of a star does not mean it is correct.
Your second point has no meaning in this discussion.
I simply pointed out that it no longer accurate and its meaning is purely subjective and therefore is a null argument, meanings of words change, just because people are attached to the childhood concept of a star does not mean it is correct.
Your second point has no meaning in this discussion.
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shinigamigod (05/14/2012) [-] You mean because I choose not to use dumbed down language and look at detail much more finely than others I have no basic understanding of the universe?
The reason I am getting so much hate for my post is because my understanding is so much more in depth than theirs that they simply cannot comprehend that what they understand about it is a way to explain it to those who do not know how to understand it when explained to them in fine detail.
I mean look at Chemistry or Physics, almost everything you learn is wrong because the very fine detail of it is so complex that it is so hard to teach it to common people.
The reason I am getting so much hate for my post is because my understanding is so much more in depth than theirs that they simply cannot comprehend that what they understand about it is a way to explain it to those who do not know how to understand it when explained to them in fine detail.
I mean look at Chemistry or Physics, almost everything you learn is wrong because the very fine detail of it is so complex that it is so hard to teach it to common people.
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shinigamigod (05/14/2012) [-] By common it generally means those who have not studied into it at the level in which the information becomes up to date.
And I make the assumption that they're 'common people' is because I am the only one who actually understands it and is correct in the matter.
Almost every single science does it.
Only once you study it at the highest levels do you actually get the accurate information.
And I make the assumption that they're 'common people' is because I am the only one who actually understands it and is correct in the matter.
Almost every single science does it.
Only once you study it at the highest levels do you actually get the accurate information.
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shinigamigod (05/14/2012) [-] Don't waste my time with wikipedia, it is the most worthless site in existence, any academic would tell you that.
I haven't lost any conversation in this post, it is a bunch of idiots who cannot understand more in depth scientific information because they prefer the simple version the learnt in high school.
I haven't lost any conversation in this post, it is a bunch of idiots who cannot understand more in depth scientific information because they prefer the simple version the learnt in high school.
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zwappes (05/14/2012) [-] but still the disorder is true and you a person who can obviuslly not read ( im terrible at english ) and you still think you are better thsn everyone else
if you search thee disorder up i think most people who has seen this argument will agree that i'm right and you wrong
end of conversation,
ps. don't troll, makes you look even more retardet than you already are
if you search thee disorder up i think most people who has seen this argument will agree that i'm right and you wrong
end of conversation,
ps. don't troll, makes you look even more retardet than you already are
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shinigamigod (05/14/2012) [-] I couldn't care what lesser minds think about this matter.
I am being scientifically correct here, they're not.
The entire website could disagree with me but it would in no way make them correct.
Simply because science is correct, opinion isn't.
The majority of the planet used to believe the world was flat, so clearly by your logic, we should accept that it is, just because the majority opinion was that it is.
I am being scientifically correct here, they're not.
The entire website could disagree with me but it would in no way make them correct.
Simply because science is correct, opinion isn't.
The majority of the planet used to believe the world was flat, so clearly by your logic, we should accept that it is, just because the majority opinion was that it is.
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paddyflat **User deleted account** (05/14/2012) [-] Wikipedia:
A star is a massive, luminous sphere of plasma held together by gravity.
Dictionary.com:
Astronomy . any of the large, self-luminous, heavenly bodies, as the sun, Polaris, etc.
Thefreedictionary.com:
A self-luminous celestial body consisting of a mass of gas held together by its own gravityamazing-space.stsci.edu:
Star: A huge ball of gas held together by gravity.
Should I go on? or is this enough defenitions from fairly reliable (at least more than a random guy on funnyjunk) sources? I think this prooves once and for all
A star is a massive, luminous sphere of plasma held together by gravity.
Dictionary.com:
Astronomy . any of the large, self-luminous, heavenly bodies, as the sun, Polaris, etc.
Thefreedictionary.com:
A self-luminous celestial body consisting of a mass of gas held together by its own gravityamazing-space.stsci.edu:
Star: A huge ball of gas held together by gravity.
Should I go on? or is this enough defenitions from fairly reliable (at least more than a random guy on funnyjunk) sources? I think this prooves once and for all
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fukkendragonite (05/14/2012) [-] 1) Go with it faggot, we've called them stars for too long for a little miss pissypants like you to want to change the name.
2) Part of the name, part of the joke, therefore hang yourself.
3) They would be Red Dwarves and Blue Dwarves. I know this because one of those is a famous TV show in the UK of which I am a HUGE FAN (borderline obsessive)
2) Part of the name, part of the joke, therefore hang yourself.
3) They would be Red Dwarves and Blue Dwarves. I know this because one of those is a famous TV show in the UK of which I am a HUGE FAN (borderline obsessive)
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fukkendragonite (05/14/2012) [-] It's in series 5. My favourite is series 6 by far. I've seen every episode of every series countless times lol. Me and my two brothers are obsessed with the show so much that we quote from it all the time in everyday life, at the same time! We immediately know what the other is going to say because we were all going to say it too!! We're quite sad! :P
You could quiz me on any RD trivia and I could get it right straight away (Although you couldn't do it on FJ because I could google it anyway and there'd be no way of telling but rest assured, I'm a geek for that show! :S)
You could quiz me on any RD trivia and I could get it right straight away (Although you couldn't do it on FJ because I could google it anyway and there'd be no way of telling but rest assured, I'm a geek for that show! :S)
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fukkendragonite (05/14/2012) [-] I was watching that last night! :P With the Androids tv show that Kryten is watching xD
"I'm saying, Brooke Junior...."
"What about Brooke Junior?"
"He isn't your android..."
I love that episode, especially with Kryten's Marlon Brando speech!
"I'm saying, Brooke Junior...."
"What about Brooke Junior?"
"He isn't your android..."
I love that episode, especially with Kryten's Marlon Brando speech!
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fukkendragonite (05/14/2012) [-] Clearly haven't grown out of trying to pretend that you're somehow superior. If you had any brains at all you'd know that wikipedia is a good casual source. Obviously when you need to be near enough 100% sure of something you can't use wiki but I'd say most of the time it's right. Dates, locations, name spelling etc can sometimes be wrong but the majority of the time they have the basic facts right.
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absynthe (05/14/2012) [-] because youre definitely one of those people on the site with intelligence. if you WERE then you'd realize that what you said is completely idiotic, youre saying something is wrong because of a different term you use. suns are stars and stars are suns. simple as that, and a dwarf star can be red, blue, white, brown, and many other colors just as stars can as well. and the stars are in fact dwarf because theyre small and dense this makes them dwarf stars. just as there are giants there are other ones as well. you are feigning inelegance by using pseudo-intelligence and synonyms and if by chance you ARENT trolling then grow the fuck up bro, your superiority complex wont get you anywhere in life
