A win for the ages

u would not exist, no apple no fucking

i don`t like fiction

nice one

Burn of the month so far haha

please explain to me why you think the bible is fiction

talking snakes, women becoming salt, living in big fish, zombies... in what world that is not a fiction? shit man now i know why the pope does not let you read harry potter... cause you believe in every shit u read

can i ask you what you believe in?

Okay how about this: We can assume evolution is real as it's the most likely theory. This means the Garden of Eden never happened. Which in turn means the original sin, the whole reason we go to hell, is obsolete. This makes heaven and hell obsolete. Then we can also say that God is obsolete. This means the Bible isn't real, or "fiction."

why can you assume evolution is real , there is much more evidence of creation than evolution... life does not consist merely of chemicals, if that were true than mixing chemicals in a test tube would create life. A infinite creator (God) had to have created life. There are no natural laws that create specific complexity. The simplest life consists of amazing specific complexity- equivalent to 1000 sets of the encyclopedia, as Einstein said, God doesn't play dice with the universe, God plays scrabble! Spontaneous generation of life, which you, and evolutionists require to get the theory started, has never been observed. It is believed in by faith. Now you may say, but evolution has been observed just look at the Galapagos islands.. there are 2 types of evolution, micro and macro. micro evolution is one species adapting, like the birds in the island, has been observed and is more adaption than it is evolution. macro evolution on the other hand has not been observed, macro evolution says that everything that is living and breathing somehow spontaneously generated, without the work of a creator, was formed out of the slime.. There is no evidence on it, there for it takes a lot more faith to be a evolutionist than a Christian.

yes, living in a garden with only one woman for all eternity sounds extremely exciting! /endsarcasm. but seriously, regardless of how hot the chick is (assuming she's actually hot), how much time can you possibly expect to spend with her, doing the same things over and over again until the end of times, without getting bored and needing to experience new things in your life? yeah sure, your personality and perspectives about your environment wouldn't be as complex as they are now, so given those circumstances, how much do you really believe you would be enjoying your life?

The irony here is that your questions are critical thinking skills. See in heaven, you wouldn't have those.

yeah I know. I was just asking him to weigh-in the options and reconsider whether he would actually want to spend an eternity being bored or not considering that NOW he does have a wider perspective (hopefully) about the concept of eternity.

Such a great alternative.

>implying you have no control over your actions
You only go to Hell if you were a bad person.

No?

Good point. (PLEASE TYPE IN FULL WORDS!!)

I was never fighting, I was expressing my honest view on the whole situation. Good bye newfag.

Red thumbs don't matter.

do explain anon...

The anon is right. When Adam and eve got kicked out of the garden, they realized that they they were getting older and needed to reproduce. They had no need for that in the garden. The devil kickstarted all that.

where does it say that they realized they were getting older and needed to reproduce? if everything they needed was in that garden, why did they feel like they had no need for it?

The got kicked out of the garden because they disobeyed God so they had to support themselves.and I guess once they realized they had freedom of thought, they became attracted to each other and had sex

well they were attracted to each other in the garden before and most likely would've had sex prior to getting kicked out anyway.

It never said that. They didn't have the thought pattern yet. There was no reason for them to reproduce so they wouldn't have

it's not like they were immortal... and plus, they probably were going off of animal instinct/behavior anyhow and it's just biology to reproduce, so they probably would have with or without eating the fruit.

So? No, the fruit from the tree made them conscience of their nakedness and gave them thoughts they wouldn't have normally had. Yes it is biology to reproduce, but you see back then, There. Was. No. Point. They didn't know they had to keep their species going because they didn't have any idea

yeah but do you think adam and eve were the only species alive? no. and it's not like they taught all the other animals how to breed and reproduce. do you think a pig is aware that in order for its species to continue surviving it needs to reproduce, or do you think it's in the innate animal behavior to reproduce?

Well of course not, man was made after animals. Both of those basically mean the same thing. Animals found out the same way we did that we needed to reproduce. What I don't think you're understanding is that humans basically had no thought complex. After eating the fruit they did. The animals didn't eat it, so the need to reproduce just sort of developed

prior to eating the fruit they were no different from animals and were only acting on animal instinct/behavior. it wasn't until after they ate the fruit when they became aware of themselves and their surroundings. it's not like they were brainless before, they just were simply acting off of internal and external stimuli instead of thought/reason.

ACTUALLY, thenchurch has officially accepted thentheory of evolution, and use the story of adam and eve to teach us a lesson. There fore we would be here no matter if she ate the apple or not

ACTUALLY, that only means that we were ape-like creatures in the beginning and the free will/apple eating event is what gave us the mental awareness and what separates us from all the other animals.

as well as scientists accept the big bang theory.

you need both.

Nomthe church basically said that the adam and eve story isnt true, its just a story

they believe they weren't actually the first and only "people" on the planet, and there was no adam, and there was no eve, but like i said before, they were the first beings to develop the mental awareness for whatever the reason might have been as well as why they were the only species to develop that mental adaptation instead of other species being able to do so as years passed.

Questioning your religion? Ah, a logical Catholic. Or as I like to call them, a future Atheist.

ya itd be awsome except we'd be brainless idiots

but you wouldn't know you were a brainless idiot

but what about ALL THE SEX

thats why im half and half

but we'd all be to happy to care.

i don find ignorance bliss id rather know

so...
[infinite food, peace, health, sex, protection] > [knowledge]

thats just the way i feel but i do see ur point as valid

I'm a sophomore in a Catholic High School too....... weird.... My religion teacher turned me into an agnostic

History is written by the victor

He didn't exactly hate them(us). God told all the angels to pretty much bow down to the humans as a superior race. Lucifer was an angel and didn't agree with that so god banished him. Sooo he didn't like us but he didn't hate us lol

I thought god banished Lucifer because he envied Gods power?

Saved.

A gif. for you sir. Well done.

**awaystrollin rolls 75** mfw

well, if all of this is a lie, let's hear some evidence. i'm a secular humanists, so i think of myself as a neutral party in this creation business. do you have any good reason why this is a lie, or did you just assume that everyone would follow your "wisdom" blindly?

sorry this might have come out wrong. i'm not christian. nor any sect relating to it. not familiar with the scripture. so i asked those questions from information i gathered from the post and other comments

That tree is where God hides both his playboy and weed stash

A little lithium once a day will clear that right up.

Then you're a dumbass because anyone who has read half the bible would make you look stupid because this guys information is very wrong.