Avengers vs Justice League

nightwings fighting abilities says "trained by batman" that's like if doctor was "trained by house"

Wasn't Nightwing Superman? Going all vigilante with Jimmy Olsen at Kandor?

Superman became the Batmanesque Hero Nightwing during a Visit to the Bottled Kryptonian City of Kandor, Jimmy Olsen was his Sidekick: Flamebird. The Mantle was then Taken up by his Second Cousin from Kandor, Van-Zee. Dick Grayson became the Third Nightwing later on. However, this all Occurred during the Silver Age, and the Events were Erased from Existence after "Crisis on Infinite Earths."

Well thank you! At least I know I wasn't entirely wrong now, thumb for you sir.

No, just the Opposite. You were Entirely Correct. It's Just not Common Knowledge to People who haven't read Silver age Comic Books. I Was Surprised that you Actually Knew about that.

Oh yeah FunnyJunk cool move, when I try to learn something by asking a question you give me red thumbs and THEN complain how the hell are people this stupid. While you DON'T.DO.SHIT. About it.

Fuck you.

The hulk would just rip him in two :)

Batman never loses, dude.

the hulk can't die but hes dumb...

Therefore, Batman could easily outwit him.

indeed.

The only people I like from DC are Batman, Superman, and the black Green Lantern,and maybe superwoman if shes hot, but other than that, Marvel has X-Men, your argument is invalid

He's died before in the comics.

Avengers got Thor with his hammer Mjölnir, so game over for batman.

The lack of comas, or periods, in this sentance is strongly disturbing me.

agree *sentence* btw just lettin u know

no, the reason it wouldn't be a fight is because Iron has Batman locked down like a bitch. If he EVER grabbed him, for even just a second or two, he could lift him right off the ground and just fucking throw him as far as he possibly can. And don't give me any of that "that's only if he can grab him" bullshit, Batman is a normal human being with normal human being top speeds and reflexes, Whereas Iron can outrun a fucking fighter jet. You need to be nimble as FUCK to dodge that. If Batman wants to pull out his little grappling hook, I say let him, that just gives Iron man a chance to grab him again, and this time smash him into a fucking brick wall, crushing his bones and organs with the force of a speeding school bus.

And honestly, what is Batman going to do against titanium armor? What's he gonna do, punch him? throw a "Bat grenade"? Maybe he can throw those little bat blade throwing things at him, which will bounce off harmlessly. That armor took fucking machine gun fire like the bullets were made of cotton, and that was in the PROTOTYPE stage.

What else needs to be said? Batman goes and blows his fortune on a car and some neat gadgets, whereas Iron Man makes the smart investment and ENCASES himself in gadgets, forming a kickass and virtually impenetrable suit of armor.

OP like in over powered, not faggot

He's a god of course he's overpowered, but still awesome

Because his ring is only powerless against an actual beam on fear. That is simple a repulsor blast.

But then he's facing someone in another Universe. The rules may not apply.

Holy crap, I have never laughed so hard at anything on here before. Thumbs for you anon.

Azreal replaces him

a good psychiatrist and he's powerless.

Batman is powerless, yet also arguably the most important person on the justice league.

but batman always fights powerless. he's got the skill to be powerless. without powers hulk is just a shitty scientist.

ohh my bad.. thought you were talking bout batman lol. got confused.

nope lol. i'm all for batman, he's the shit. the hulk is just a bipolar gorilla.

Shitty scientist..?

When he was unable to turn into the hulk he made things that allowed him to fight Juggernaught.

Hal Jordan can stop him.

Hal Jordon has a weakness to pretty much anything yellow.

But the Hulk is green. And Hal Jordan is the most powerful Lantern.

Batman can take down bane. Although its sorta easy because bane has a venom tube that can be cut and hulk gets more and more mad. Hulk does have 2 weaknesses though. 1 would be types of radiation and 2 would be a fragile state of mind that turns him back into bruce banner. also hulk can still suffocate. He could be choked and knocked out. All 3 methods im sure batman could find a way of doing. Case closed.

No.

Bane is weaker than Spiderman. only a 1-ish tonner with the use of venom. Hulk 'fragile tate of mind' hasn't been an effective way to get anywhere since the early nineties. Also currently Banner and Hulk are seperated, and Banner is now dead. So there's that.

And Batman doesn't have nearly the strength to choke out the Hulk. Batman is not beating the hulk.

and if you dig up scans from non-canon crossovers full of ridiculous plot stupidity that isn't any proof whatsoever.

Im not saying it would be that simple or not a challenge to beat hulk, but it can be done. And If anyone was smart enough to find a way it would be Batman. Also hulk is pretty dumb. Bruce Banner might be very smart, but Hulk is not.

Metal lines. I mean, Batman could get a metal line and coke hulk out with it. doesn't have to be batman himself.

Not happening.

Hulk's neck muscles would be too strong to constrict with any physical force bats could employ on said lines.

Look, even if metal lines don't work, you cant deny, if you truly know batman, that Batman has a killswitch for everyone. You can guarantee he would have one for Hulk.

that's just a cop-out.

Joker has put hands on Batman in regular combat. Batman in crossovers is just stupid, his batfactor PIS (plot induced stupidity) is awful.

And I hate debating Batman battles because the fanboy answers of 'he has a plan to beat everyone' 'he's batman' 'he's smart enough to win' etc fly out their faces.

Batman within his own universe of Gotham is great. He is a STREET LEVEL character, even if writers make him some sort of god when he's fighting something way out of his league.

I can respect that Hulk is pretty much unstoppable, but the truth is we will never really know. Most of the fights are mostly by whoever the writer favors. I'm sure batman would have to try fighting hulk 2-4 times, but eventually he would beat him.

Don't see it happening without ridiculous plot devices.

Also, a fight between the two in a full comic would be half a page of them fighting, and about 30 pages of Bruce's blood pooling around him.

No. No not at all. I think its more of a favoring in our argument honestly. I could see how Hulk could easy kill batman if he is unprepared but if he is prepared, Batman wins.

With planning what can he do?

Give a scenario.

All I got left to say is this

Batman Quote to Martian: "I have a $50,000 Kryptonite tipped supersonic round for the big guy... All I need for you is a penny for a book of matches."

True. But when both of those characters can move at speeds multiple of the speed of light, good luck with that.

When those characters come right up to batman to hit him, he has his shot.

lightspeed>any human reaction speed.

Superman and MM > Lightspeed

Plus if Batman has a giant chink of Kryptonite and superman flys at him, how is superman supposed to hit him. As soon as he comes light speed at batman he falls and looses his powers.

Kryptonite isn't an 'auto-loss' for Supes.


He has fought cosmic levelers with kryptonite stuck in his chest.

Still all depends how Batman confronts them. If its by complete supprise in the watch tower, Batman wins.

MM would know he's coming because of his telepathy.

Superman can hear butterflies fart on Jupiter.

..Unless shitty writers disregard decades of basic information for the sake of Batman winning.. oh wait, welcome to the bat factor.

No what i mean is, if they are in the watch tower and batman just goes up to superman he can kill him with it. Same with MM assuming he is focused on something else.

Even so, just walking up to superman and trying to shove a spear in him isn't going to work, as of he sees things on a level Batman couldn't.

And that could be said for anyone then.

With magic, or a Superman, either work effectively

Egg fuckin' zactly

Thor Beated A Kryptonian!?
ALL OF MY WAT
SUperman wiped the floor with IMPERAXs' face, which is pretty much the creator of the universe.
How could a simple god of thunder own a kryptonian? I need proof for this one bro.

Thor has way more stamina, can enrage to become even stronger than normal, can heal and regenerate lost limbs, and, oh yeah, is an immortal God.

Also, his main powers from his hammer (magic) just happen to be one of Superman's only weaknesses.

My good man, In the last chapters of Superman, when Superman litterally fle winto the sun and absorbed its powers he reached a phase where he pushed an entire fucking planet (Brainiacs planet) into a cannon and fired it at Imperax, and if i am not mistaken, he did this within minutes. So unless you provide editors proof of where both came into agreement that Thor outmatched Superman. This Debate could go on for eons.

That's true, it really would be a close fight. But even if superman killed Thor, he could just come back to earth a thousand times over and try again. But superman has to deal w the rest of the avengers as well.

If we're talking a full on Marvel vs DC then it's no contest.

Reed Richards would have Kyrptonite bullets in play before breakfast and the Avengers alon would hand the JL their costumed asses.

The only ones i see that could cause trouble in this picture is Hulk and Thor, all others have not so much of a superhuman powers from wha ti know. and pretty much all of JL does. (Batman has superhuman coolness)

Look up Scarlet witch, Vision, Sentry, and Wonder Man

Iron Man may not have the superpowers but he had specialised Hulk and Thorbuster suits. The JL has a lot of fancy gimmicks and costumes. The Marvel Universe is, in general, superior.

Sentry is dead.. until he comes back from the sun when marvel decides they want a giga-raper-powerhouse back.

Martian Manhunter isn't a joke. dude can fully heal from being ooze on the floor. He has massive telepathic abilities, and has strength above Wonder Woman and speed, also intangability and eye lasers.

This brings to me an interesting question.

Who is faster, Flash or Quicksilver?

Quicksilver isn't even a 100th of Flash's speed.

Finally someone said it.

Quicksilver is fast enough to move forward in time.

he wasn't just regular quicksilver when that happened. And I don't think that story even happened in actual continuity.

Either way they both kick ass.

I actually like Quicksilver better :p

he just isn't as poweful :p

I like him better just cause of the fact that im a marvel fanboy, but I do give credit to flash.

Flash isnt just speed, he has crazy power in the DC universe.

Having said that Quicksilver isn't nearly as fast... And yes, later on in comic-land, Quicksilver gained the ability to teleport/move through time. Though Flash can do that also.

android would kill everyone :)

Honestly, no one gives Deadpool enough credit. He's seriously a certified badass. The thing is that he's never serious. I bet if he serious'd the fuck up, he'd have no problem taking on Batman.

nope batman still wins

I would cum all over my screen.

...vs dragonball z vs tnk vs tekken

Thor vs Captain Marvel
Thor wins over Superman purely due to the magic that fuels him, psysically Superman is more impressive... but against an opponent as strong, fast and durable as Superman but also strong against magic - Captain Marvel takes this.

Vision vs Martian Manhunter
Martian Manhunter is arguably the most dangerous JL member, he is psysically as powerful as Superman, but also controls shapeshifting, Intangibility, Invisibility, Telepathy, Psionic Blast and more. Vision controls similair power, but due to MM much more powerful psysicality he pwns and wins.

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Sure... That battle is not as one sided as some of the others.
But Captain Marvels psysical feats are better than Thors, and if Thors magic isnt the winning factor and niether is Billys then it comes down to who hits hardest, and that goes to Captain Marvel.

Hulk vs Superman
Well this is all a question of how long Superman wants to fight Hulk... if they fought for lets say a week, Hulk would most likely grew so much in strength that Superman would lose.
However when they first meet, Hulk is rather weak, and Superman is faster than lightspeed, lifting quintillions of tons and durable as all hell.
He speed blitz Hulk before he can say ''Hulk smash''

Hawkeye VS Green Lantern
Well if this is the normal incarnation of Hawkeye and not his Ultimate version who is superhuman, then i give it to the original sharpshooter of comics, the man who have a nuclear arrow and is in modern comics on pair with Batman in hand to hand - Green Arrow. Clint have before lost to Nick Fury in hand to hand, which severly makes him a lesser h2h than Ollie...

Now im not saying that the Avengers cant take the JL in another outcome and with another tactic.. but if these are the battles JL stomps.

**Green Arrow****

you forgot the name Bruce Banner

Haha, yeah i actually thought about that, but i thought that since technically the Hulk is a different personality and work independently from Banner (in Savage that is) it would be a mooh point to add him, since they are not really the same character... only in body they are.

Us Batman fans love it when Bruce is out kicking ass. But his real super power is his mind, he have blackmailed gods, won over Superman (with his smarts) and have been described by demi-gods, galaxy warlords and Superman himself that Batman as a mere human is one of the most dangerous individuals one could face.

He is arguably in the top 10 of best martial artists in comics, but he is still human and have his limitations as a man, Captain America is not as smart and thus not as dangerous as Batman, but he is a better fighter and those limitations Bruce have, Steve doesnt.

whatever floats your boat brucie

you wanta go clark

already did at the speed of fucking light. how is space brucie?

im fine space suit deal with it

you need a suit? pretty lame brucie

taste the ring mother fucka

nice one clark u just destroyed the earth and were in space

but it killed you did it not? looks like i win brucie

if it killed me then how am i talking to you right now and oops look who i let loose good luck clark you barley survived last time

funny "let loose" huh? like you ever had the capacity to contain him. and you might as well be dead as your oxygen will eventually run out. it has been fun brucie but i think i will retire to some other planet and find me some nice green poontang to screw. lol

Ms. Marvel can also absorb energy to make herself stronger, including kinetic energy. So while ww punches her shes jut getting dtronger

The yellow from Iron Man's repulsors couldn't be stopped by anything Green Lantern tried.

i'd love to see superman beat this

Yeah thats true about magic and Tony (iron man) could use his Asgardian Steel suit but I'm saying it ends the same way they realize oh you're a good guy I'm a good guy lets kick some intergalactic ass and deadpool is one of the hardest to kill he is practically immortal he can re grow limbs and he is damn sexy as gif above shows

One Superman's weakness is magic and enchanted weapons. Dr. Strange, Thor, and the cosmic cube could beat him.

Good luck, Superman is not human.

You know I'm glad you mentioned that. I was ok with most of the superpowers in there. they through in the cellophane logo and let me tell you, I was most definitely rustled. Way to OP.