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User avatar #657 - guitarheroadam (03/31/2012) [-]
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Please, stop calling them rights. It's hurting your cause.

It boils down to one of 2 things if you call them rights.
If rights are endowed by man, they don't have rights. Where does it say ANYONE has the right to marry in the consitution?
If they are given by God, then you have to subscribe to a belief system based on said God. Not necessarily a religion, but a God based system of right and wrong. Since most gays are atheists, this probably won't work.

Personally, I believe marriage should not have anything to do with the government. No marriage of any kind, straight or gay.

Also realize that most people have a problem with the term marriage. If gays want to get into a civil union or something, most people wouldn't have a problem. But they insist on marriage, which is a religious act. Since religions do not want to preform this, they start to have problems.

Not to mention that the movement is fill of people who complain about "shoving people's religion down their throats", and yet DEMAND you adhere to their lifestyle.

I honestly think gays could win, and they could get what they want if they stopped using the term "right", if they stopped using the term "marriage", and if they were just as respectful to others lifestyles as they expect others to be to theirs. If they properly titled their movement and advertised themselves as human beings who strive to be treated as equals like the civil rights movement, they would win with little heartburn and issue from the opposing side.
#685 to #657 - SemiAnon (03/31/2012) [-]
Marriage isn't a religious thing.
User avatar #725 to #685 - guitarheroadam (03/31/2012) [-]
Marriage is. Legal unions aren't, but marriage is.
#739 to #725 - SemiAnon (03/31/2012) [-]
Ever read "The Odyssey"? Odysseus spent that entire time trying to get back to his wife, whom he was married to.   
Greeks had marriage.   
Romans had marriage.   
Jews get married.   
Muslims get married.   
Hindus get married.   
If everyone gets married, regardless of religion, it's not a religious institution.
Ever read "The Odyssey"? Odysseus spent that entire time trying to get back to his wife, whom he was married to.
Greeks had marriage.
Romans had marriage.
Jews get married.
Muslims get married.
Hindus get married.

If everyone gets married, regardless of religion, it's not a religious institution.
User avatar #747 to #739 - guitarheroadam (03/31/2012) [-]
Right. I never said a specific one, I just said it was religious.
#682 to #657 - derpyderpderp (03/31/2012) [-]
Your example of what a right is given by man is stupid example because of the fact that you use such a specific example. Look at the declaration of independence "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" the right to marry whoever you want is highlighted under there unalienable rights to pursue happiness. So in turn it is there right to marry whoever they wish.

Lets move on. Your generalization of how most gays are atheist is un-based and has no backing what so ever. You assume they are atheists because they don't go to church but many believe in religion but choose not to attend church for fear of persecution for there choice to gay. Also marriage is not just a religious act. Marriage is the basis for a civilization to function correctly. Without marriage there would be no families and without families there would be less things like consumer spending and money spent on kids to go to school and such that drive out society. So marriage is a government matter since it is the driving force of our country
User avatar #719 to #682 - guitarheroadam (03/31/2012) [-]
Except the DoI holds no legal stature whatsoever. It is not a legal document, and the pursuit of happiness (which is not in the constitution) is a controversial term open to several interpretations. But it doesn't matter, because it's not law.

Marriage is a religious aspect. Legal unions are not, but marriage is.
#1303 to #719 - derpyderpderp (04/01/2012) [-]
the concept of the “pursuit of happiness” has been enshrined in a number of state constitutions and in judicial interpretations of the US Constitution. The DOI is not legally binding but since it has been found to be a viable right held up by the constitution it is binding. So in turn is does matter hwo it is interrupted and if gay people want to marry to achieve happiness then using the "pursuit of happiness" as a warrant is perfectly legal and binding.

With the marriage thing you are still falling under the assumption that all gays are atheists and that is simply not true. Secondly, at the the point in which the people have to obtain marriage papers and report being married to someone else to the government it becomes a no longer just a religious institution but a legal one. Also under that logic atheists could never get married because technically they do not believe in religion.
User avatar #1328 to #1303 - guitarheroadam (04/04/2012) [-]
And also, like I said, I don't believe in legal marriage personally. What's the point? Tax deduction? Of that's honestly why you're getting married, maybe you shouldn't be getting married...
So you can live together? WOWEE you can do that no and no one gives a **** .
User avatar #1327 to #1303 - guitarheroadam (04/04/2012) [-]

Also, it's not that all gays are atheists, it's that not all churches want to do it. And they shouldn't be forced to.
#683 to #682 - anonymous (03/31/2012) [-]
Who would have thought that a man named "Derpyderpderp" would have won all the internets. Congrats. I will now go and thumb everything you have ever produced. ******* winner.
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#667 to #657 - anonymous (03/31/2012) [-]
Are your parents cousins? This is the single stupidest post I have ever seen on Funnyjunk, and I've been here since this **** was ******* yellow. You literally have no idea what the **** you're saying. You are one of two things A) Under 18 and repeating what your dumb ass religious cook of a father is telling your B) You function at a below-average mental capacity. I will now pray every night for the rest of my life that you never be granted the chance to reproduce. You are the cancer that is killing society. If you slit your wrists tonight, the world would be a better place because of it. Wow.
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