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#642 - swedishassassin (03/19/2012) [-]
Yes, congratulations; you've cited specific parts of the Bible involving those things, but do not point out on whether it is viewed from a good/bad context nor with a justifiable explanation

You must be an expert at debating.
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User avatar #730 to #689 - mrtwilightsparkle (03/19/2012) [-]
Have you ever read Deuteronomy or Leviticus? Both books have their own purpose and message, which most people cannot pick out for themselves. You also have to remember how in the early parts of the bible, all that you read about is God punishing Israel for being terrible people. That's what all the "immorality" is. It's just telling you what NOT to do.
Oh, and citing something can still take it out of context.
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User avatar #761 to #747 - mrtwilightsparkle (03/19/2012) [-]
Wow, read the bible, and try to actually understand it, and you might have some validity to what you say. And the trip to Sinai was from Egypt, you idiot. The Israelites were enslaved and led out to Sinai, which has nothing to do with the moral validity. And for the things that the bible says you should do? There are reasons behind most of those that I myself know of, and the rest theologians can figure out. For example, Shellfish carried diseases that ancient civilization didn't know about and couldn't cure, like salmonella. Circumcision was a sign of submittance, and butt sex is a lustful thing, and lust happens to be one of the seven deadly sins. I personally don't know why mixed fabrics aren't allowed, but I'm sure there's an explanation.
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User avatar #784 to #773 - mrtwilightsparkle (03/19/2012) [-]
Oh I see, so setting out a religion's official rules, no matter how obvious they are, is completely pointless. That's just like saying that making murder against the law is pointless. And in the Old Testament, when the Amalekites were slaughtered, it was because they were an immoral people who were trying to do the same to the Israelites. In the Old Testament, God is depicted as significantly more terrifying, and horrible in our eyes, but all that He was doing in the Bible was ensuring the survival of Israel. And this 7 Deadly Sins **** has been around for awhile, just not under any set names.
Oh, and trying to trash a religion by saying "It must be wrong, because I'm not an idiot" really says a lot about your pride. I'm not trying to say that my religion is undeniably correct so much as trying to say there's a possibility it's correct, but all you're saying is "I don't believe in it, so there is NO WAY it's true, because I hold all the answers". That's basically all Atheism is. I hold no quarrels towards Atheists, I just don't hold the same beliefs and find their beliefs to be as unproven as ours.
#664 to #642 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2012) [-]
"but do not point out on whether it is viewed from a good/bad context nor with a justifiable explanation "

Justified rape, sacrafice, slavery and murder. That's a new one.
User avatar #713 to #664 - lolsnapple (03/19/2012) [-]
Now you're taking his statement out of context. You'd have to be a bloody moron to actually try and argue that the Bible encourages such behavior.
#726 to #713 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2012) [-]
>but do not point out on whether it is viewed from a good/bad context nor with a justifiable explanation
> justifiable explanation
>rape murder slavery sacrifice

Justifiable rape?
Justifiable murder?
Justifiable slavery?
Justifiable sacrifice?

Bible is full of **** , deal with it.
#751 to #726 - lolsnapple (03/19/2012) [-]
As much as I hate internet arguing, let me provide you an example since you've obviously never read any of it.

Cain murders his brother Abel in spite. Murder is bad. Cain is cursed to wander the earth deformed and in agony. (Later on there's also that little 'thou shalt not kill' bit)

Also the sacrifice bit in itself is b.s. The animal sacrifices involved cooking the meat ceremonially anointed with oil in the name of a deity, which is no longer practiced today but was commonplace to many religion. The one human sacrifice bit was a test of faith and never really happened
#763 to #751 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2012) [-]
And what of the rest. That is a lot of stickers there.
#682 to #664 - gmarrox (03/19/2012) [-]
1) Rape: A species is going extinct, there is only one male and one female left. The female refuses to mate

2) Sacrifice: Exchange our policemen for his hostages

3) Slavery: This person is poor and starving. I cannot pay him, but I can give him room and board in exchange for work.

4) Murder: This man is threatening my life with a gun. I also have a gun. One of us will die.
#696 to #682 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2012) [-]
1) We're not talking about animals here. There is no such thing as justified rape.

2) Taken out of context.

3) That is not the definition of slavery.

4) That is not the definition of murder.
#706 to #696 - gmarrox (03/19/2012) [-]
1) Humans are animals

2) Still a sacrifice

3) Then by that logic, over 75% of US slaves were never actually slaves

4) Killing in self defense can still be tried as murder.
#720 to #706 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2012) [-]
1) Higher intelligence is what separates us from animals. I'd like to see that in court "Why did you rape her?" "Because I'm an animal".

2) A sacrifice is something someone does willingly, for someone else to sacrifice them is murder.

3) Not going to even touch how retarded that comment was

4) To kill someone and to murder someone are different. Example: Soldiers kill, they don't murder.
#732 to #720 - gmarrox (03/19/2012) [-]
1) Humans define higher intelligence based on the ability to speak. Animals are not waging wars and destroying the planet. Higher intelligence is subjective.

2) Policemen sacrificing themselves to save hostages. (Are you retarded?)

3) First U.S. slaves were indentured servants because they came here willingly but could not afford the living cost.

4) "Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because..."
#749 to #732 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2012) [-]
1) Not only that. Animals can communicate to each other. Animals are waging wars.

2) We are talking about a book that is full of drivel, oppression and misery. All the worst parts of this book have been marked with a colour of paper...are you actually for one second retarded enough to believe that your term of sacrifice was "slipped in" next to rape, murder and slavery?

3) US Slavery has nothing to do with bible slavery. **** idiot.

4) ...

God damn retard.
#758 to #749 - gmarrox (03/19/2012) [-]
1) Proving my point   
   
2) Fallacy   
   
3) Compare U.S. slavery to Roman slavery.  Both had similar starts and motives   
   
4) Fallacy   
   
If you can't come at me intelligently, I'm done here.
1) Proving my point

2) Fallacy

3) Compare U.S. slavery to Roman slavery. Both had similar starts and motives

4) Fallacy

If you can't come at me intelligently, I'm done here.
#769 to #758 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2012) [-]
1) "Proving my point" Sorry I gave contradictions to your claim that animals could not communicate nor start wars yet you assume that I'm proving your point.
2) Calling it a fallacy because you are taking a word out of context is a clear sign of defeat.
3) Irrelevant point is irrelevant. Working for food is not slavery, you dumb **** .
4) Not being able to identify the difference between killing and murder.

You must have a poor education system.
#742 to #732 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2012) [-]
Please forgive the other anon. He seems to be suffering extreme butthurt syndrome. Not all of us are retarded I promise.
User avatar #675 to #664 - swedishassassin (03/19/2012) [-]
Um, Dumbass, I was referring to the fact that it could be talking about a philistine sacrificed a human, and not Jews.... Which is in fact the case.
#712 to #675 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2012) [-]
What the person is is irrelevant. It doesn't change it.

Besides, sacrificing is done by yourself, for someone to do it to someone else, it's miss-labeled murder.
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