religion is not whats wrong in this world, people are. religion is not something you overcome it is not something you can fight. and you are right it is not something we can overcome by shutting up abour it, at least not on a global scale. but i repeat religion being "spammed" is not the problem, the problem lies in the people who are "spamming" it

So in your opinion we need to destroy religion altogether? Does that include not allowing religious parents to raise their children according to their own spiritual beliefs? Or are we just going to make it illegal to be religious and be done with it? I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm honestly curious about your opinion. The people who are against coexistence fascinate me.

IMO. I don't think we should make religion illegal until we get rid of it. Because you really can't force people to change. I feel like we are changing into a society where children get their beliefs more from their peers and from media more than their parents. So go ahead and let their parents teach their kids religion I say. The only tool Atheists have really to fight against religion is the internet really. Because nobody can delete your comments and erase what has already been said. Once the ideas are out there they stay there. I've browsed reddits Atheism section for quite some time now , and just about everyday I see people who have given up their religions just by simply visiting the /Atheism board a few times and actually having their beliefs challenged. Plus how can Atheists speak in public when every singles religious group hates them. Which is funny because its the one things all religions can basically all agree on. So we don't have a say in the public eye. Polls show that atheists are less trusted than murderers/rapists/criminals/ etc....So my solution to religion really isn't too hard at all actually. Think about it , all the way up until the 1920's , the only influence that ever made an impact on how you turned out was your small community and parents. You never really knew the world outside of that and you were scared of new things , so religion wasn't too questionable. But now we live in a growing society where people see hundreds of other people daily and the technology and the media influence our youth more than anything. Now instead of religion , children are being confronted with logic and other ideas that seem to make sense. So I personally believe religion will eventually run its self out , but to help speed up the process we should also spread the message at the same time , so that soon we can start actually speaking in the public eye as politicians with a standing chance against religious views.

I understand what you're saying, but I disagree that religion should be gotten rid of and/or made illegal. People should be allowed to believe anything they want, espouse any belief they want, and preach to anyone they want. I'm not Christian, but I'll always defend a Christian's right to attempt to convert me. He's/She's just exercising his/her free speech rights. While I agree that region and extremists have done terrible things, they've also done very good things too, and provided its adherents a great amount of comfort and purpose.

a bigger list of the opposite that is. just in case my wording was weird.

Ok , fine. But please actually tell me what religion has done that has benefitted our world AS A WHOLE. and I am sure I could match you with a bigger list. But you might be able to prove me wrong.

Large religious charities that regularly make trips to developing countries and provide food and shelter for needy people. homeless shelters. etc. I'm not qualified to provide you with a full list, so I'm not going to try. My point is that a lot of the religious atrocities committed over the years deal largely with isolated individuals in positions of power who abuse their respective scriptures, most of the others have more to do with the shortsightedness of the religious authorities, etc. Religion as it exists today, while still not perfect, has changed into something a lot more able to coexist with science and reason. I won't pretend that all religions are created equal, but mixed with a bit of common sense, reason, compassion and understanding, a little religion is not such a bad thing as people like Dawkins and Hitchens have made it out to be.

Yeah except things like charities and donations and helping out the needy isn't just a strictly religion only thing. As a matter of fact there are many people who are godless yet will help out their fellow humans on their own will. Also , just picture how great of a world we could have been by now if everyone was atheist. We could all focus on those exact problems using science and sharing technologies as a whole rather than in groups of people. You don't need religion to be a good person.

I agree with you, but neither does being godless.

No, Im not. Because I don't promote fighting in another country in the name of god. Which is kind of ironic because god isn't the real reason we are over there ....religion is a fucking excuse to get our civilians wars they wouldn't support otherwise unless it was in the name god. I also never said I was willing to kill these idiots although I fear that religion couldn't be destroyed without a war of unimaginable scales. Instead I would like to teach our newer generations that it's not ok to treat your fellow humans like shit over something as stupid as religion and actually educate them on science and fact rather than a 2000 year old book of shit.

lol first of all I'm not 15 and I'm not discovering "religion being bad" now because I was never retarded to believe in it in the first place. I don't do it cause its invigorating either. I do it because I can't help but argue about it. Excuse me for not sitting around ignoring religion , which has caused the deaths of billions upon billions of people and will continue to , and just sit on my ass and act like it doesn't exsist. I'm sorry I would like a world of actual peace and not just an illusion of peace for future generations, which is impossible to ever achieve as long as we have people murdering and fighting , and hating each other in the name of some non-exsistent fuck.

its not stupid to believe in something, and id like to point out hitler ordered the genocide of jews and not because his religion told him to do so. people kill people, not because of religion but because of their own craziness

I find it stupid to believe in something that is illogical. And I'd like to point out that your were right about Hitler , but that doesn't mean he didn't use religion as a tool to aide in brainwashing the germans into helping out which he did , although religion wasn't exactly the main reason that Germans thought the jews were bad. Also how do you figure Hitler would single out the jews if the jewish religion never exsisted in the first place. He wouldn't. You will find that many infamous world leaders who were atheist (as well as many religious) use religion as a tool to control people and for excuses into doing horrible things. You have to look at the whole situation not just the leaders. Also if I started listing off things that religion has been the full blame for we'd be here all day. So lets please not point at people like Hitler and Stalin and Pol_Pot cause these are very few people compared to all of our history.

that has been proven wrong so many times the bible that is

You're damn straight I am. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

dude i agree i am fucking sick of religious fuckwits trying to convert me to some fake bullshit