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#72 - humanhorn (03/07/2012) [-]
Warning: Vegetarian's opinion incoming.
Why do we eat food? For respiration and to take in essential biomolecules such a proteins. Years ago, hunter-gatherers identified other living things in their ecosystem as a source of protein.
These days, we can create food with a high number of proteins and other essential biomolecules synthetically. This is, for me anyway, the reason the majority of people become veggies.
As humans; as social beings, we should recognise the connection and feelings we have toward animals. Some of the world no longer has any need to slaughter animals in order to receive their biomolecules.
Why don't we have such consideration for plants? I don't know, I must admit. In my view, there is no feeling of guilt eating a plant because I know that there is minimal chance of extinction and lack of continuity for the majority of them, as they have such sophisticated techniques of reproduction and survival.
'But I like the taste of meat'. Trust me, you would have to concentrate quite hard to realise the difference between vegetarian products and meat if you were to not know which you were being fed.
There are a lot of flaws in both the practice of vegetarianism and the omnivore-accepted nature in our society. If anyone wants to add me as a friend and have an educated discussion, that would be cool.
User avatar #131 to #72 - Asdflvr (03/07/2012) [-]
"These days, we can create food with a high number of proteins and other essential biomolecules synthetically. This is, for me anyway, the reason the majority of people become veggies. "

- Extremely costly
- Large land required
- Poor production
- Poor quality

#158 to #131 - humanhorn (03/07/2012) [-]
"Large land required" - Large land is required for our techniques today as it is.
"Poor production" - I highly doubt that if we control the making of our food scientifically and more precisely, food will be produced fast and effectively
"Poor quality" - As I have already said, many people think natural is best. This doesn't always apply. With food production, we can be selective as to which healthy and essential biomolecules go into our food, leaving out the rubbish.
"Extremely costly" - Well if you mean for the individual, no. The price for a bag of veggie chicken pieces is about 3 euro cheaper than your normal butcher meat. If you refer to the actual mass production of the synthetic products, I disagree. As I have said, these foods will be created effectively... eliminated spoiled food. Approximately 20 million euro is lost in Irish (it's the only figure I have concrete) exports each year.
User avatar #279 to #158 - Asdflvr (03/08/2012) [-]
its copypasta from a site from BBC but here it is.
The cost of producing the hamburger will be £200,000 but Professor Post says that once the principle has been demonstrated, production techniques will be improved and costs will come down. --- "While I do think that there are definite environmental and animal welfare advantages of this high-tech approach over factory farming, especially, it is pretty clear to me that plant-based alternatives... have substantial environmental and probably animal welfare advantages over synthetic meat,"
It's to early to say this is the best choice, we don't know any health risk that may come with this lab grown meat, I'm not saying there are, just that we don't know. Give it time before you offer it as a viable option to go vegetarian right now just stick with "Think about the animals bro" method.
User avatar #124 to #72 - uppitywhitey (03/07/2012) [-]
i was a vegetarian for about 6 months. all the fake meat tastes like **** , i'm sorry.
#85 to #72 - zameckis (03/07/2012) [-]
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#79 to #72 - anonymous (03/07/2012) [-]
I like meat. I dont want to eat fake meat made in a lad.
#83 to #79 - humanhorn (03/07/2012) [-]
People used to enjoy hanging black people, just as you 'like meat'. Many people believe natural is best. In many cases, it is. However, in the making of synthetic products in a lab, there may in fact be more benefits to the target organism (humans). These products are designed to contain the essentials, with minimal harmful materials. Nature isn't premade for humans, as many believe - it has flaws for us. Harmful bacteria and many other avoidable things which damage our health are generally present in meat.
#87 to #83 - anonymous (03/07/2012) [-]
Aaaaaaaaand this is why people ******* hate people like you. you just compared eating meat to HANGING BLACK PEOPLE. You are an idiot.
#90 to #87 - humanhorn (03/07/2012) [-]
Excuse me, my point was maybe people are being closed minded. Years ago, hanging black people was acceptable; it was natural. But soon enough, thank god, we realised that maybe natural attitudes should be questioned.
In no way was I supporting hanging black people, I was, in fact, given that I'm opposed to eating meat, opposed toward hanging black people.
#111 to #90 - calibratuner (03/07/2012) [-]
And without getting these bacteria or diseases we build less resistances to the sicknesses or diseases so when we catch a fully grown version of it, we will be much more likely to die from it.
#162 to #111 - humanhorn (03/07/2012) [-]
This is actually a very good point, and I find it hard to find a flaw it in other than that humans used to have characteristics which we no longer have (a tail for example) yet evolution got rid of these as they became more unnecessary so perhaps if we slowly ceased dependence on life forms, we wouldn't need these resistances. But very good point and it is a major flaw in my thinking
#277 to #162 - calibratuner (03/08/2012) [-]
You are right, we could live without the resistance, if each and every person wore a clean suit. Or if we lived on a completely clean space ship. And all ate completely synthetic foods.

Until such happens, we are dependant on catching diseases and the like.
#76 to #72 - xxgodsmistakexx (03/07/2012) [-]
Perfectly recreate the texture, taste, smell, and cost of pork, then we'll talk.
#80 to #76 - humanhorn (03/07/2012) [-]
It has been done. It should be available at your local supermarket for a cheaper price than slaughtered pig.
#75 to #72 - anonymous (03/07/2012) [-]
**anonymous gets *********** **
I'm gonna get hit by it, too. I see your pint, but I have mine:
The air you're breathing right now, I mean right ******* now is very polluted. Therefore we need more plants. More oxygen the better. As for animals we farm them, but I think we should focus on farming plants. I hope you get my point.
#112 to #75 - anonymous (03/07/2012) [-]
that is a ******* retarded argument. we plant lots and lots of plants to make food for the animals we eat. if we had cut down our consumption of meat and eat more vegetables instead it would be a lot ******* better for our environment. and if we want more oxygen, shouldn't we just stop demolishing ******* rainforests?
#78 to #75 - humanhorn (03/07/2012) [-]
I get your point, don't worry. But think about this: almost 70% of all plants/crops sown and grown in the developing world are used to feed animals that ultimately slaughtered and sold on the meat market. That means we are using valuable plants, as you believe, to fuel a food market. These plants could surely be used in lesser quantities to produce a more efficient way of giving us our biomolecules.
#96 to #78 - anonymous (03/07/2012) [-]
Want you guys to know that we're not running out of plant life any time soon synthetic meats taste disscusting and no frankly they dont provide the iron and protein your body needs to maintain a life most doctors will strongly recomend that you do not becom vegitarian cause of the health risks do u vegitarians ever wonder why your always tired and why you always feel run down its because your not getting the essentail neutrients that your body needs to stay healt it also has a big effect on your amune system because without those specil nutrients that your body needs it lowers it you were probably wondering why u were always sick thats because of the lack of nutrients - Future M.D.
#84 to #78 - humanhorn (03/07/2012) [-]
Sorry, developed world (that is a huge mistake).
#82 to #78 - anonymous (03/07/2012) [-]
It's not all about vegies and meat. What about milk, eggs, butter, cheese? Yes, we feed the animals, they give us the stuff i listed and we slaughter them, but would have been it better if they starved in the woods and get ripped by a wolf (natural)? Even if we let them die normally, we won't get good quality meat therefore they gain nothing and so we do.
#86 to #82 - humanhorn (03/07/2012) [-]
So are you suggesting that we latch on to our primitive routes; ensuring that lesser beings in this world (wolves) don't take our backup? Should we neglect development in synthetic development of food which could eliminate dependence of unpredictable nature? Perhaps vegetarians are the way of science, and those that resist change remain in a primitive mindset. That is a horrible generalisation, but many such statements have been made toward veggies.
User avatar #73 to #72 - xaflu (03/07/2012) [-]
Holy **** , this guy knows how to read wikipedia.
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