www.youtube.com/watch?featu... we have seperation of church and state?

elect him then wait four years. Everyone will be calling him a lying asshole by then

Sorry no, the only people that are voting for him are the one's that understand that most presidential candidates have been full of shit. Each one of them has lied multiple times on film for their election campaigns, EXCEPT RON PAUL. Fact Check that shit, he HAS NOT LIED ONCE.

Everybody have lied sometime...

Look up every one of his political videos, I dare you.

look up ron paul racist newsletters i dare you

I have, Ron Paul did nothing wrong at all. They tried to say he is racist because somebody else wrote something. Amazing argument, really.

its his responsibility to at the least review his newsletters and edit out that kind of content. therefore he is either racist or negligent

Yeah, just like Obama took the time to edit his many speeches about the great "48" States of America, or the other speech about the great "52" States.

Yeah, not only did he not check the speech (or he thought it was correct, god help us all) but he stood up on tv, in front of millions of people and repeatedly got simple facts about the United States completely wrong. What kind of president doesn't even know how many states are in his fucking country?

from a country where the majority of the population doesnt know how many provinces and territories in its biggest trade partner and the country directly north of them of the top of their heads, i would say that isnt too bad.

That's a fucking disgrace, if you think it is anything else then you need deep psychological help.

the current state and direction of the american education system is a disgrace
also red thumb all you want igdaf now refer to gif

The current state of the american education system is completely because of the Federal government taking over.

School quality and efficiency have drastically decreased ever since the federal government tried to take that responsibility from the States. Standardization of schools and tests has been proven again and again to be ineffective yet it is still used today.

again that is debatable, as where i live (canada) the govt decides a good portion of the overall curriculum, and the teacher decides how to teach it, provided they teach the required portion. libertarianism wont work on a large scale btw as people would still be dumb and require the govt to save their lives and tell them what to do so either a govt similar to the one in place now, less the corruption and corporate greed, or true anarchy, where the weak are culled from the herd.

You're trying to debate the educational system of my country, but you don't use it. Great, off to a wonderful start.

First of all, if you listened to my previous statement I mentioned that when the States had control of the schools THEY WERE BETTER. Do you know what better means? It means that the children learned more, and I don't know what schools are for in canada but here their entire purpose is to actually teach people.

exactly my point, also as an outsider i have a unique perspective of american politics and education. i see a county where scientific theories are being pushed out for what amounts to mumbo jumbo. i see the government (GOP specifically) trying to control as much of the population as they can, and push dark age practices on the population, while at the same time saying that they want a small government that doesnt interfere with the people. i see people trying to violate the first amendment of their constitution while saying its the *second* highest law in the land. i see the average person becoming more and more stupid, while revelling in the stupidity and trying to push it onto their kids
and please, by all means, keep giving those red thumbs because it doesnt bother me
pic related

Well, thank you for pointing out that you are a troll. You have fooled me into thinking I was debating someone, I admit failing to recognize you.

Have a good day, or fuck off. Whatever floats your boat.

>brings up legitimate points from a differing perspective
>tries to lighten the mood with related pic
>is a troll
lol wut
ron paul isnt even going to win in the circus act of a party anyways, despite *appearing* to be normal, he is so far behind. he isnt spouting enough religious nonsense to appeal to mainstream republicans

He's not spouting religious nonsense cause he's not a religious nut like everyone keeps saying. He just happens to have a religion, guess what? all the other presidents had religions too.

And you are a troll because you blatantly said that you were making fun of americans, thus proving you are not here to discuss anything. Therefore, fuck off.

Ron Paul is actually in the top 3 for candidates right now, he's not behind at all.

numbers it is
40% of americans believe creationism ( www.huffingtonpost.com/2010... and since ron paul isnt pushing it as the only source of knowledge despite the rest of GOP doing so ( www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-se... since a large portion of the rupublican base are fundies and the majority of americans are christians ( abcnews.go.com/sections/us/... ron paul disappoints (would that be the right word?) them by not trying to force everyone to be like them. this of course result in those (rick santorum and mitt romney) that are spouting jebus to be in the lead, even if they arent in the same sect of christianity as the voter. while ron paul has some good points (legalisation of marijuana = +1 to tax money) his racist/negligent (pick one) means that he would unsuitable for presidency of any country. technically speaking none of the GOP candidates are suitable due to breach of the constitution (Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.) primarily because of the religious government clause, though violating that portion of the constitution seems to be popular these days despite most official documents stating that it isnt allowed ("As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion" Treaty of Tripoli signed 1797) and the original motto printed on US mint being E Pluribus Unum (from one, many) people are still claiming that christian dominism is how it is supposed to work in america, when a simple look around shows it isnt
at this point i am now at the charactor limit

lets face it, the fact that he isnt spouting the religious crap means that the mainstream crazy that has taken over the republican party wont let him gain control, also by top 3 you mean 3rd
also the picture was referring to the fact that i had an opinion contradictory to your own divinely inspired american brand opinion, and you became extremely butthurt about it

Just... stop talking. You say nothing of substance, you have no opinion of your own, you don't understand how to check facts.

The only thing you have done is try to insult me, just like every other dumb mother fucker who believes attacking character wins arguments. Fuck evidence, Fuck facts, Fuck documents and reports, your opinion is obviously right and I apologize for not believing you, oh mighty internet douchebag. (that was sarcasm, by the way)