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#317
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brodud (02/15/2012) [-]
k bud if ur catholic thats kool but if ur hatin shut up cuz im catholic and god wasnt and is not a cold blodded killer the ppl he killed he killed them to use them as examples they were being retarded so he show the world if u do this this is what will happen and all that info comes from the old testament ( 1 of 2 parts of the bible) so what if all the old testament writers were retarded alright kid
#339 to #317
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N. Korean citizen (02/15/2012) [-]
So you're basically telling us that it's okay to kill so long as God kills. That generally goes along great with the question of "Is God good or is good God?" Because if you say that God is good, then you state that he made what is good and if he made good, then he made evil. Therefore, if God is just and good, why is he making evil things? Also, if you state that good is God, you say that there was something that came before God to predetermine what is good and what is bad, which means that something existed BEFORE God, which negates the whole Bible thing.
The argument of "God killed them to show an example" is hollow at best, and I wouldn't want to follow someone like that.
The argument of "God killed them to show an example" is hollow at best, and I wouldn't want to follow someone like that.
#438 to #368
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durcwill (02/15/2012) [-]
statistically, if you have an unlimited amount of time and space, isnt it possible that life would be able to exist out of sheer probablility. think of it this way: it the possiblities are 1 in 100000000000000000, doesnt it mean once in that once in one hundred quadrillion planets would have life? which would be considerable amount of planets if there is unlimited time and space
Right, only SOMEONE, that's the point. As far as we are aware (which is a flawed theory) at some point in time there was put simply a 'gas cloud' of matter and anti-matter. There just so happened to be a small percentage more of matter than there was anti-matter which created the big bang. You believe in miracles, so why not believe in that? That it wasn't an act of God, simply a miracle.
#354 to #339
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brodud (02/15/2012) [-]
you are retarded first of all and no its not ok for me buts its ok for him because he is all and decides all ok and second god made good and evil to give the option so if you go to the "evil" side you wil be sorted and almost sayin im against you and if you dont repent ( ask forgiveness) have fun after bud
#364 to #354
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N. Korean citizen (02/15/2012) [-]
So you're saying that God made Adam and Eve and put the apple there and basically predetermined Eve to fail and plummet us all into a spiral of hell. So we're the Sims. He knows what he's going to do with us and even made us a hell to throw us in when he feels like it?
Also, I didn't once call you names. I'd appreciate the same respect, sir =)
Also, I didn't once call you names. I'd appreciate the same respect, sir =)
#385 to #364
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brodud (02/15/2012) [-]
alright no names but im kinda mad anyway he said ur choice knowin they would but what they did was monumental little things then asking for forgiveness is deiifferent and can be changed you choose wether you go to heaven or hell its all in your power and god doesnt have a certain line where u go off you die its a plan but his plans are changabl as long as you change it
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N. Korean citizen (02/15/2012) [-]
I don't really see that, though. One minute he determines our fate and we have a destiny, the next we don't. We either have a predetermined fate or we don't. If we don't, and he can't control us, then he isn't all powerful. If our fate is predetermined, and he makes people to be convicts, then it's not a very nice God.
#446 to #440
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brodud (02/15/2012) [-]
no he put them here to live as they were supposed to all the evil was not his intenton it was man being dumb and he cant change that only we can but some choose not to while others choose to do so and those people live it unsafe areas where the people how kidnapped them watever have turned to evil but god will not intervine its in our hands
#331 to #317
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roflcopterkklol (02/15/2012) [-]
If you care to read the bible, god is quite... Questionable.
Deuteronomy 13:13-19
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them.
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place.
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you
Leviticus 20:10
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 13:13-19
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them.
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place.
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you
Leviticus 20:10
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.
Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.
Timothy 6:1-2
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.
Timothy 2:11-15
Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, who was deceived by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty.
According to the bible, genocide human sacrifice belittling women and slavery are all ok.
But then the bible we read is only half of what was in it 600 years ago.
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.
Timothy 6:1-2
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.
Timothy 2:11-15
Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, who was deceived by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty.
According to the bible, genocide human sacrifice belittling women and slavery are all ok.
But then the bible we read is only half of what was in it 600 years ago.
#449 to #338
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durcwill (02/15/2012) [-]
i think that God wouldnt want someone to simply take someones word on something alone. I feel that He would want you to gain a full understanding of how you fit into the world before making a rash decision. Thats why I am educating myself without any kind of bias one way or another. Personally, I would rather believe that when you die you have an afterlife, but I wont distort facts to fit what I want. I explore Christianity trying to get a solid grasp on the universe because you cant discount either side