Skyrim Graphics

looks the same to me.

as it does to PC.

Vanilla Skyrim on medium, which is effectively the same, if not slightly higher because of the resolution, than on consoles.

Skyrim on the PC once the mod card is activated. My PC isn't that great (hence the lower resolution so it'd run smoother), but you get the picture.

Excuse me dude for the dumb question but
How the fuck did you do that? (refereeing to the graphics)

ENB and other assorted mods, 2K texture pack, lush trees, vurts vegetation, realistic water etc.
They're on the Nexus.

Pulls random number out of ass, Tries and sounds intelligent.

meh.. all the fany boys are gonna hate. big surprise there. Also, texture packs out the ass is true- so the number is justly pulled out of my ass.

You mean Ultra

Totally forgot

He was saying PC is better by saying they're more realistic.

i agree. Crysis has better graphics, especially on the PC

We got everything.
We can even change the controls to be configured to a controller.
Only thing consoles have running for them is money, but then again my high end pc only cost me $700 to build, and plus there's piracy which easily makes up for the money spent building the game. Mind you, I didn't pirate skyrim, SR3, and a bunch of other kick ass games, but I did pirate single player games that I owned before, along with others. I more of do a "test run" for a day of a game, and if I don't like it, I just stop playing it and delete it. Only game I've actually legitimately pirated and played all the way through is The Witcher 2, and I'm going to buy the enhanced version when it comes out for the 360 because of how much I enjoyed playing it on the PC.

nope, you're way wrong, on Xbox with the HDMI cable it looks the same as medium on PC :P

You sure? I just did a comparison a few minutes after I saw this post (don't ask me how i have skyrim on xbox and pc) XD

PC master race up in this bitch, kneel to your benevolent gods of the time when every desk had a joystick, and all geeks would tremble at the word "Privateer".

I'd rather look at the sun through a sheet of blue plastic.

Minecraft?

minecraft has the best graphics in existence. crysis ain't got shit on it.

Have you seen the Crysis 3 rendering of the Titanic?

Please... Just... Go... Go and watch it...

*I

I built my own 3 years ago.

Here's my specs:
AMD Phenom II x4 965 Black 3.40 Ghz @ 125 Watts with Cooler Master V10 CPU cooler
MSI NF980-G65 Motherboard, NVidia chipset, tri-sli capable
8GB G-Skill RAM 4 x 2GB @ 1333MHz, Dual-Channel, 8-8-8-21
EVGA GeForce 550 Ti SC - $150 right now (upgraded to this from my old 9800 GTX+)
Western Digital Caviar Green, 2TB SATA-3G HDD (No, I don't have an SSD, If I get one, it will become my Steam folder, nothing more)
XION PowerReal ATX 1000 watt Power Supply (it was on sale, so I spent 25 bucks more on a 3-year warranty extension for it, in case it sucked, hasn't failed me yet, though)
HAF 932 AMD Limited Edition case ATX, 7 expansion slots (picture)
Win 7 Professional 64-bit (got from skewl fer free!)
After upgrading my RAM twice from original (shipped defective, didn't wait, went out and bought $100 worth more to get this thing up and running, then another $100 when I upgraded the last time, doubled the amount of RAM I had), and adding a new graphics card (add $150), then getting the CPU Fan upgrade ($125 more) , as well as spending an extra hundred for the LE case, I am at around $1575 / £1001.
To anyone building their own systems, I reccommend either a 9800 GTX+ in SLI (Fucking monsters, those 9800's are, as good as the 550 Ti's are) configuration, or a 550 Ti (factory overclocked), or better, if you want at least decent graphics.

If you can get hold of any 7200 RPM HDD, I'd suggest moving the OS on that one. Might be hard because of the extremely high prices though.

What I find weird is your 1000w PSU, might be a overkill on that system, and how you ended up choosing the V10 heatsink...

The thing about PSUs is that you can use them on ANY system you can fit them into.
I planned ahead, that way as I add more things to my system, I don't need to worry about getting a bigger PSU, not for a while, at least.
I also chose the V10 for extra cooling for my CPU, as it is currently running stock heatsink, I like the fact that it has red LEDs in the fans. It is this reason that I decided to spend an extra hundred dollars on the case, because of all the red it has.

A quality 750W will be good enough to SLI most of what is on the market today. I haven't checked the 7950's power consumption, but it'll handle one OC'ed to hell. I just felt that the V10, which has scored lower than cheaper heatsink would be a foolish buy, but if you bought it for the looks... I don't mind.

True enough, but like I said, if my system gets far too outdated, I can always keep the PSU, and move it into a new system. When I bought it, it was on sale for $100, and most of the 1kw PSU's were up around $200, so I was like, get one that I can use for a LONG damn time if it can stand up to it.
As for the fan, I bought it to upgrade from the stock fan, but I wanted more red on my computer, so I got a big, red monstrous fan.
As far as HDDs go, I got the WD on sale as well, and I wanted lots of storage space. As time goes on, I will likely just get a 500GB SSD dedicated to all my games, and leave everything else on the 2TB. Beyond that, I'll probably get a 3TB and use it as a backup drive. I'd like to add a Blu-Ray drive to this thing, as well, but that's not high on my priority list. I'd more likely get a pair of 580's and SLI them before I got a BRD.

If you got the PSU THAT cheap, then I can understand. As long as the warranty is long though.

580's will become cheap, but I will never go SLI or Crossfire because of microstuttering and what not.

As long as you're happy with your rig! That's what counts!

Yes, it came with a one year warranty, and I spent 25 bucks more on a 3-year extension for it. I'm definitely happy with it right now, but I like improving on it, making it more powerful, or more red, either way works for me.
Also, I decided to go with the V10 for one other small reason, I've not OC'ed this monster, and don't really intend to, that's why I got the more powerful parts (they were brand new when I got them, so don't tell me there's better ones, because I already know that there are, this is more for someone else who may bitch about it, and not you directly razorr) otherwise, I'd have gone with a liquid cooling system.

buy from ecocollegepc, they let you build it with the parts you choose and they send it to you pre built just like if you were buying it from a retail store. I think its free shipping also. I built a good gaming pc there for about 800-900 USD.

Definately build, for example,

Alienware PC: £1500 / $2000

Equivalent custom build: £700/$1000

cheers for giving an idea of price

no problem. I only know that having done it XD Also, I would recomend AMD products. Just as good but a damn sight cheaper. I have an AMD Phenom II x6 Black edition @3.6GHz.n Pretty damn fast, amnd a six core =D

My processor: £141 / $200-250 (not too sure as they might deviate, mine was cheap as hell when I bought it)

equivalent Intel CPU: Anywhere between £400-600+ / $750-1000

Where abouts in the world are you?

Six cores aren't worth it yet, since very few games can actually make any use of them. And you shouldn't compare proccessors only with their clock speeds. A better idea is to check some tests, where you can see how good your CPU actually is in games, and I'm sure that's the only thing that matters.
AMD products are better for cheaper computers, and Intel is better for mid and high tier computers.
And I'm pretty sure that an Intel CPU with results similiar to yours would cost MUCH less than you stated.
By the way, I'm using AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE, and it's fine, but if I'd had more money when buying this PC, I'd have bought Intel's i5.

The i5 2500k grants you higher FPS in different games compared to the AMD X6, it has been tested. There's a reason why Intel CPU's cost more, although I'm not saying AMD is bad. It's great for a budget build.

And AMD is 'bang for your buck' ie, bloody brilliant for the price, and Intel are 'get what you pay for', as in fucking great but expensive as shit

Compare the price of the X6 and the 2500k. It's not such a huge difference, and mobo's are prices the same generally.

Well, that's pretty much what I said. AMD is cool for cheaper computers.
But I'm going to disagree about Intel being expensive. Yeah, their high-end CPU's are really expensive (and IMO those aren't worth the price), but they have pretty good mid-tier CPU's, such as i5, which I mentioned.
And as for the lower comment, 3.2 GHz AMD CPU isn't equal to 3.2 GHz Intel CPU. And in terms of gaming performance, a 4-core i5 would do as good as the 6-core AMD CPU you mentioned, if not better.
Well, talking like this doesn't bring us anywhere, I suggest looking for gaming performance comparisons online before buying anything. That's how I got my Phenom, which was one of the best processors for my budget.

Expensive? 141£ for your amd vs 143£ for a top of the notch gaming processor? are you high?

Not anymore, crashed about an hour ago. And whats this 'top notch' CPU youre talking about?

Intel i-5 2500k. Check it up.

I've got the i5 2500k with a cheap heatsink, the Hyper 212+
You can go way over 4GHz with that beast, and it still won't overheat.

The cheapest I can find it at is £170, its a quad core compared to a 6-core, and can only be clocked to 3.7Ghz. The CPU I have, (the one that cost me £141) is designed to be overclocked, and wiith a watercooler, can reach 4.2Ghz without any issues. I even read that a guy submerged one in transmission fluid and clocked to almost 7Ghz

The k in 2500k means that the CPU is clock-able FYI. And yeah, lots of differences in the different CPU's. If you're replying, mention what CPU you've got! If you have an AMD CPU, I'd believe you have either one of the X6's, or X4?

Look at all the pretty purple lines! :D

But I'm lost XD

But yes, I have an AMD Phenom II x6 @3.2GHz

Well, that's one of the best CPU's of AMD anyways, and if you don't have a cooler already, I suggest going for the CM Hyper 212+. Cheap and performs better than many aftermarket watercooling systems!

Don't need a cooler atm. Clocked at 3.6Ghz nice and stable. I'd want to get a better PSU before any more changes. All this concidered, all this crap has to fit in an mATX case XD

Oh, hehe. Might I ask what case you've got? I can't say I know about many m-ATX cases :P

Some shitty Casecom thing. It was only about £17. Got a front mounted fan with blue LEDs in, and a side vent, with more blue lights in. Looks pretty good. Pic related

That's awesomely cheap though. It's easy to switch to other fans if you want some "better" cooling too. Pic related

I did, all the fans in my case were replaced :3

Hehe :D

The last pic was taken by a half crap phone, but you can at least see that my fan LED's are blue...

Its like the big brother of mine :3

Tried bringing your computer to a friend or LAN? That's why I sometimes wish I had gone for a smaller case, haha, it is a pain to carry for more than 2 minutes

Well, get your facts straight. No games today use more than 4 cores, 2500k can be clocked at a stable 5 ghz on AIR! I would spend another 30 quid for atleast 20-30% better performance.

Not acording to this tinyurl.com/6evefwf

And I'm not claiming to be an expert. Watercooling is a good idea when doing any overclocking. Watercooled @ 4.2Ghz keeps is cold quite. Too much overclocking causes overheatin.

Now leave me alone. I'm sorry that my PC is so shit compared to yours. 1. Its my first build, and I reckon I've done a fine good job. 2. I'm clearly not as rich you, or I would have spent the money on an i7. but college doenst pay much. 3. I don't care if you can find better partsfor the same money, Its clearly too late.

Phew... Right, I'm out

#I was referring to the price of an intel CPU with 6 cores and a speed of 3.2Ghz compared to an AMD CPU of those specs. And i'm not just comparing speeds. I know that Intel processors are better overall, (threading etc) but to save money, go with AMD

England :) yeah my laptop has and AMD processor and its been better than my desktop with an intel

Woooooooooow, chill down a bit. For gaming, you wont need more than max 4 cores, and if you check this benchmark (scroll down to see games), you can see that Intel DESTROYS amd when it comes to fps (http://ww w.anandtech. com/bench/ Product/288?vs=203)

For example:
World of Warcraft: Intel: 120 fps, amd: 77 fps
Left 4 dead: Intel: 143 fps, amd: 127 fps

Equalient intel cpu 400-600£? thefuck, you get a BETTER one for the same price!

http://www.amazo n.co. uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004F A8NX2/ref=sr11?ie=UT F8&qid=1329235734&sr=8-1

My recommandation: Intel i5 2500k, good for overclocking, one of the BEST for gaming! :)

i only really play RPGs like skyrim, GTA, Saints Row etc. so what would be best for that kind of thing?

The intel one have better overall performance :)

thank you :)

Find a pc forum of any kind, and ask them. Give them a budget.
How about giving me a budget? I know a dude that knows PC's a lot, and he could probably set up the best one for the buck. (Reason I don't want to do it is that I have no idea what the prices are for amerifats, or britfat people for that matter.)

about £500 maybe £600 at a push (I'm britfat)

CPU:i3-2130
Intel CPU i3 2130 Sandy Bridge Intel HD Graphics 2000 Processor - BX80623I32130 - Scan.co.uk 112Pounds
Mobo:Asus H61 USB3.0
Asus P8H61/USB3 Rev 3.0 Intel H61 Socket 1155 Motherboard - P8H61/USB3 <REV 3.0> - Scan.co.uk 67pounds
GPU:XFX HD6870
XFX HD 6870 DD cooling 1Gb AMD VGA Card Eyefinity Ready - HD-687A-ZDFC - Scan.co.uk 138Pounds
PSU:Seasonic Bronze 520Gb
Seasonic Bronze S12II-520 520W Power Supply (PSU) - Scan.co.uk 61Pounds
HDD:Seagate 500Gb
Seagate 500Gb 3.5" Barracuda Hard Drive 7200rpm 16MB Cache - ST500DM002 - Scan.co.uk 58Pounds
Case:Cooler Master Elite 430
Coolermaster Elite 40 Black Mid Tower Computer Case Front/Rear 120mm fans and Side Window No PSU - RC-430-KWN1 - Scan.co.uk 39 Pounds
Ram:Corsair XMS3 2x2Gb 35pounds
Corsair Memory XMS3 4GB DDR3 2000 MHz CAS 9 Dual Channel Desktop - CMX4GX3M2B2000C9 - Scan.co.uk

No problem! :)

Here you go then

A complete list of everything you need for a great Gaming setup for next to nothing
And by setup, it means it includes a monitor, headset, peripherals etc

All for under £750 :D (and yes I put the list toghether, and yes, this is my exact setup XD )

www.amazon.co.uk/Budget-Gam...

Switch out that GPU and it'll be set.
AMD 6870 or something like that.

I will be when I have the money :D

I have a question about this setup... could this build run modern games like (battlefield 3) on high if not ultra setting with a smooth fps?

Absolutely not.

Do you think you could put together a build that could run a game like that for say... 700-1000 USD? I'm asking you this because I have little experience in choosing parts, but I could build it, It would be much appreciated :D

I'm not familiar with American prizing of components and what stores are the best and so on (also been a while since I last checked out CPU performance charts) so I suggest you check out Tom's Hardware, great site with lots of comparisons between different components and lots of useful tips. The articles Best Gaming CPUs For The Money and Best Graphics Cards For The Money should be useful and they also have a good forum.

Alright, thanks.

I think it's better that way as I don't know what preferences you have. Some people have no trouble paying $300 for a computer case while some think $100 is way to much and so on. Although I can recommend you not to be cheap and buy things you won't feel 100% happy with. I bought a cheap case for my first computer first but later felt it was a bad decision and bought a better chassis, meaning I pretty much throw away the $100 the first one cost.

The only thing I care about is how good it can run the games and other processes (videos, music, internet, etc). I don't really care for how good the exterior looks, as long as everything fits and it gets the job done lol. If you want to know my preferences, I can give you a list :D

I could give you some tips but I don't think the fj comment section is the right place. :P
Do you have Skype?

Sadly no :l maybe direct me to a guide on the internet?

The components in the article is definitely a good start www.sweclockers.com/artikel...
It's in Swedish but well you can see the name of the components at least... :P
I would recommend buying GTX 570 instead of 560 though and chassis doesn't really matter that much as long as it can fit the components (Fractal Design is not available in America I think, if it is I recommend the R3). Motherboard is also entirely up what connectors you need and if you're going to be using several graphics card and overclocking in the future. Oh and I almost forgot, if you're going to have games/operating system on a hard drive do NOT buy a 5400 rpm drive. I recommend Samsung's Spinpoint drives or Western Digital Black.

Alright, thanks for the help. :D

SHIT, thats bottlenecked as FUCK! And why not a SSD? And why the fuck hd5670????

1. What does bottlenecked' mean (yes I'm retarded why u hatin?)
2. You cant get an SSD over about 500Gb, and even then theyre expensive as shit
3. The HD5670 is perfectly capable, and cheap as hell

1. Bottlenecking means that one or more of the computers components does not perform 100% because the pc is only as fast as it's slowest part. For example, it does not make sense to buy the best graphics card in the world if your processor is to slow for games.
2. You don't use an SSD is not used for storing files. You buy a hard drive as well.
3. Even if the HD 5670 was "perfectly capable" (this depends on what performance requirements you have) it still does not make any sense buying a 2 years old graphics card.

1. So fuck, its my first build and works fine
2. SSD's cost too fucking much, and I don't have that kind of money
3. It was cheap as hell when I bought it

thank you! May you days be long and fruitful!
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Seriously bro, I fucking love my PC. Lot of people above have been bashing me for my 'shitty' spec, but concidering I bought this thing on college allowance, I think I've done okay :D

Why would anyone buy a HD 5670?

Because theyre cheap as shit and do the job, I agree, if I had the money, Id get a better GPU, but I don't :(

Runs skyrim at max EVERYTHING @ solid 50FPS

its cheaper to build, but if it breaks, you have no refunds

What are you talking about? Why would there not be warranty for computer components...

Except usually you have warranty with all the parts if you build your own pc.

hmmmm thank you

It's definitely cheaper to buy the parts and put it together yourself.

thank you for the advice

Played skyrim. Played morrowind. Wtf is this shit?!