the universe is not infinite if the big bang happened and the universe is growing then it cant be infinite that's what humble and Einstein proved

but what if the big bang was one of many and was just the result of gravity sucking things in for google's of years b4 the big bang. what if they happen all the time? and we just havent really seen anything to prove otherwise. but i dont think the the "end" of the universe is posible. its not a video game. it doesn't have to be designed. it just is.

Google is a company, googol is a number.

well i knew they were named after a number, i never knew how it was spelt. thanks

No problem. I didn't know until seeing something on history about the internet, where the guy who created google explained the name and said the actual spelling. Not sure when that was, though.

thats cool

Well thats the so called Big crunch is just like you explain its one theory but its a bid unlikely do to dark energy which is making the universe going faster and faster if this continuous like this the big rip will happen that is that dark energy will win over gravity ripping the universe apart but all this are just theories none knows for sure

That's actually string theory stuff my friend. The new "happening" way of thinking about the universe is that is curves back onto itself, meaning that if you traveled in a perfectly straight line (relatively of course, due to the curvature of space) that you would eventually end up right back where you started so long as you were given enough time to travel across the entire universe. It's fascinating stuff, and apparently all theoretically provable with math and science.

what you just said is what Einstein put as constant in his equations so the universe is not growing or shrinking but now scientist know that the universe its accelerating so they use it back to calculate that and that my friend has nothing to do with string theory or m theory its general relativity.

string theory and m theory were developed on mathematics it explain how things could work but not how they work.
the universe is simple not fancy mathematics.

YO DAWG, I HEARD YOU LIKE SCIENCE, SO I PUT A THEORY IN YO THEORY SO YOU CAN THINK WHILE YOU THINK.

Incorrection! Did not say string theory specifically stated that the universe curved back in on itself, although I'd bet that it could support it, but rather that this is in the same field of scientific thinking as string theory.

Secondly, the universe can be completely and totally explained, leaving absolutely nothing undefined, by mathematics. If you believe otherwise, you're either kidding yourself or you're a crazy christian who remembers the dark ages fondly.

i thought you mend Correction! LoL

Anyway what einstein said is that universe curves back to it self do to gravity who turned out to be wrong because the universe is expanding maybe m theory (stop saying string theory it developed if you dont know) because m theory says is used for microscopic level maybe it just explain what general relativity says in a microscopic scale.

the universe is not completely and totally explained we barely know it i mean we dont know what makes up the 96% of our universe and if you dont belive me look at it yourself

and about the maths there are a lot of ways to reach 6 3+3 or 3x2 or 2+4
and all of them are correct but in the universe works in only 1 way this theories say how the universe could work.

I admit that I know most of this second-hand, and I further know that the universe is for better or worse a gigantic enigma, but that doesn't mean that Einstein didn't have the right idea. He saw that the universe curved, we saw that the universe is accelerating, so I say we put the two together. That's all. You seem to have a problem with theories that you yourself claim are unknowable and unprovable, and yet you continue to attempt to offer your own profound scientific

expertise on the matter the same as me.

Secondly, all true answers in life have many paths that you can take to find them, or some such wise-ass bullshit. Just because you can get the same answer from a million different techniques doesn't draw into doubt the answer, rather the opposite.

You, sir, are an idiot.

Einstein did indeed think about this whole idea of a "technically" infinite universe, and you are correct in thinking that our view of space as a curved plane did originate from his theories on space and time and their relations to each other and the universe, but he didn't specifically do the necessary calculations to predict the actual curvature of the universe, nor figure how far it went before it starts to become a strange expanding paradox. He gave us general and

special relativity, as well as countless other theories and equations, that have been adapted and used to create new leaps forward in scientific thinking. You sir, are an idiot.

calling me idiot is just making yourself looks pathetic anyway i thing you should look what i wrote above because i dont thing you saw that

yo i think that sum dude was like,"yo, i am gunna make a really simple little world and make some dumbasses to put in it and im gunna see how long it takes for them to figure what the fuck is happening."

but thats just me.

Perhaps Idiot is not the right word...Ignoramus seems more fitting, but in any case I stick to my guns.

Secondly, when I re-read my statement and then yours, yours appears far the more childish. Correct me if I'm wrong.

anyway am not fighting with you i believe like me you are just someone who tries to understand the universe a month ago i believed all those theories like you there are not wrong but i found out the corruption that is in the scientific work that is the people who sponsor scientists put pressure on them to discover something making them make "quick" theories who none double checked thats how it is after quantomechanics were made and thats what the unify theory is based on and i question all this and am not alone because like you i want to know the truth and i dont have the knowledge to see if a theory is true or not i just dont use them if am not sure

Ah, I had you pegged wrong. You think that science is evil not because math is hard, nor because science flies in the face of religion, but because you're paranoid that scientists are making stuff up in order to make money.

I bet 20 bucks right now that you're still in high school, and that you suck at both your math classes and your physics classes. I, however, am a prospective physics major at Purdue university, and while I admit that I don't understand half the more advanced stuff that

i was gonna reply further up but i saw it kept going...

if the universe is never going to end (die), because matter cant be created or destroyed...then that means that matter's life span is infinite. "that which has a beginning has an end" and if matter doesn't have an end, then it doesn't have a beginning either. so then the big bang didn't "create" the universe, it just sucked up what was around it and blew it up again. and like i said before, i bet this happens "all the time" in the

universe, but its so big that we havent found anything moving in a different direction, therefore having a different starting point as us.

I think that for all intents and purposes, anything that ever happened before the big bang is unmeasurable and irrelevant to the current state of the universe, but you are right about there being no beginning or end.

However, there are two contradictions. One is that matter can be turned into energy (and possibly vice versa), but the other is a weird think called "Dark energy."

At some point and time, scientists measuring things in our galaxy (such as stars) came to the awkward conclusion that everything was accelerating away from everything else, when logic would tell you that everything aught to be slowing down and heading back toward everything else due to gravity. There had to be some invisible force accelerating everything away from everything, expanding space itself at a

constantly increasing rate. This force was attributed to dark energy, and with every passing moment there is more of it in our galaxy, and we have no idea where it's coming from. Some theorize it may be leaking from another universe.

physicists do yet I do have a basic understanding on how some of the stuff works, and can do a lot of math. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean that it isn't scientifically sound. In fact, the only kind of science that gets published (in America at least) is the stuff that has been double checked and criticized and scrutinized by colleges in the same field doing the exact same things. Science is almost by definition a very precise art, and although theoretical science can be

confusing, and is often by and large unproven, doesn't mean it's not accurate.

Hell, almost all of Einsteins theory's remained totally unproven until after his death, such as special and general relativity (both of which rock), and the invention of precise measuring instruments like atomic clocks and super colliders. If it weren't for his theories, satellites wouldn't work, and we wouldn't know shit about subatomic particles and how they behave with each other.

My mantra has now become:
You sir, are an idiot.

am A at both math and physics actually and i didn't say that theories are wrong theories is the base of all science you just hear and believe if you lived in the middle age you would be thinking that earth is flat. anyone can remember what a theory says and make yourself look smart but few people are really trying to understand it and see if it makes sense you say "string theory specifically stated that the universe curved back in on itself" nut you have no idea why you just know what is not why i cant create a theory and i cant understand most of the theories but i try to you dont and you thing you are smart the only theory that i made is that.

You sir, are an idiot.

i dont even know who you sad that too so a replied anyway :P

Actually, I believe I said "I did not say string theory specifically stated that the universe curved back in on itself..." You took that totally out of context by erasing the words "did" and "not".

Secondly, there was absolutely no proof behind theories such as "the earth is flat". This is tantamount to calling a religion a scientific theory, when it is obviously not. A scientific theory has a lot of data behind it, not just a bunch of people believing in it.

Thirdly, I could hardly read what you said. Very incoherent. However, I do think that you claimed to be the only thinking being on the planet, and I must contest that. You seem to be part of the other demographic. Scientists do not get paid well, therefore most of them do what they do for the sake of science itself, like I do. Scientists are thinkers and reasoners who attempt to explain natural

phenomena (and everything else too) with numbers, and wish to quantify the universe. I am currently part of the PRIME laboratory here at Purdue, yet you, who's still in high school (either junior or senior) claim that I do not try to understand theories while you yourself do. I'll admit astrophysics is not my area of expertise, rather atomic physics is, but I'll bet

that I know more about it all from a strictly theoretical and mathematical basis than you do currently from any way you want to measure it.

You, sir, are an idiot and a parrot.

if you tried to understand theories you wouldnt say "Did not say string theory specifically stated that the universe curved back in on itself, although I'd bet that it could support it...." but you would explain why. if you explain why then ok.

and you are a scientist that thing he is smart when he is able to "win" a conversation against a 16 year old. Pathetic.

Einstein said if you looked in the space for a long time you will eventually see the back of your head but he explained it using gravity and his constant

i want you to explain why if you go straight line you would eventually have no new places to go while using string theory and i will be ok.

I said it before, not an astrophysicist, nor a string theorist. Both are disciplines within themselves, and while I can appreciate the kinds of math involved in their computations, I don't begin to pretend I understand them. I am training to become an atomic physicist, and even then I am no expert. However, I hope to be someday.

Good day to you, ya freaking idiot. As a wise man once said, never argue with an idiot, for he will bring you to his level and beat you with experience. You are blocked

you so far seem to me like the smartest person on funnyjunk. half the people around here are complete dumb asses. I am happy to think at least one of us will amount to something in their lives.

just say i don't know man its okay

i love you anyway

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Cool story bro

The Universe is 4-dimensional anyway so quit yo whining.

a large number of people would reply saying there are more than 4 dimensions. the string theory, which they argued about above, predicts more then 4 dimensions. we can only probe 4, however.

in m theory there i think there are about 16 dimensions but am not sure.

prove. -.- the v is right next to the b. lol.