a prison in europe

FIXED!!!

dont kill the joke

actually mine has one other bed in it. Same space two people one desk.

This is a prison cell in Norway. (Fuck Logic) And technically America is also not a country. The US is.

Right, America is not a country. But what do you call people from the U.S?

fat, illiterate, or inbred?

Touché, my friend. Touché.

that's certanly not a prison cell in norway. that's the kings bed or something.

Nordic you say?

england isnt quite as strict as romania but it aint lenient, we have a prison called strangeways.. that says it all!

Haha, I grew up in Africa. Try out a prison there!

They HAVE prisons?... wait, they have LAWS?

Your forgot Denmark, they are also a part of Scandinavia.

lol prisons in serbia , they are most shittiest , i have a friend that got 1 year for marihuana and he says its awful :)

Hope that's not the case with Anders Behring Breivik...

HEIPÅL

HEIRAGNAR

Luckily, no. He's gonna be sent to a looneyhouse for life.

I like that we're idealist, but it's kinda getting exploited by immigrants :/

Just as us here in Sweden...

Strange, isn't it?

Yeah! But even if we had rough deserving prisons, at least in Sweden, we only give criminals like 8 years for murder... O.o

I'm not sure what we give o.o I think life-time should be a valid punishment though.

Indeed!

he's going to live a life in luxury, in a mental hospital called Dikemark Psykiatriske, without any guards to watch after him, just the personell at the hospital.. this man deserves torture, and nothing else.. Two men killed 15 people in Belarus, and they are sentenced to death. and this fucking asshole, who killed 76 people gets luxury! that's just wrong

and rehabilitation won't change the fact that he killed 76 (?) people in cold blood, most of them teenagers, when they were at a summer camp on a peaceful island..

Do you think a death sentence will change the fact? I agree that he gets too much, but I'd much rather have him treated so we can understand how to deal with these people than to see the man rot in prison with total disregard for his victims.

I guess I could see that, but I still believe in rehabilitation and therapy. To the nuthouse with him for life, I say.

Why is that?

Because we treat prisoners so well, and even the man who comitted the worst crime in Norway since WWII gets luxury, that's why..

Well, if you define lifetime in the looneybin as "luxury" then I guess there's no help in it. Norwegians are idealist by nature.

We hate you too, fucktard. :)

Rapists in England are frequently let out early to repeat their offenses.
Jon Venables commited one of the most attrocious crimes in our history (he and a friend horrifically tortured a two year old boy to death when they were ten) and when released was soon imprisoned again for downloading child pornography.
And you want to talk crime rates? Norway has a generally secluded population of of under 5 million while America has more than 300 million people, with over 80% of them living in urban environments. It only takes a glance at statistics to know that crime rates soar in cities - especially larger ones - for a multitude of reasons.
There is no control to compare your claims with, so you can't conclude that the correlation is casuality.

Of course you can get nutjobs like Venables (And Anders Behring Breivik) that can pop up anywhere, but you can't judge a system by a selection of failures alone. Some people are just dicks, but that doesn't mean the system is ineffective.

And yeah - Norway has a lot of other factors going for it that reduce the crime rate, but there are many other countries with a similar population size and distribution with significantly greater crime rates, like (google, google) Turkmenistan.

Much higher rate of offending over there. Yeah, it's a less wealthy country, but if wealth was the solution to crime, the USA would be nowhere near the top of the crime scoreboard.

The justice system undeniably plays a large part in crime rates, especially in regard to repeat offending.

Wait, this isn't college. What the fuck am I writing?

You've completely misinterpreted my point, I stated that Venables was released and reoffended. I don't like to use extreme examples since they usually skew the argument, but this is actually relevant - an obviously sadistic and twisted man was released onto the general public and reoffended - whereas Breivik was not subjected to any measures of punishment or rehabilitation to prevent him from commiting his atrocities, so his actions are not any representation of the justice system.

Turkmenistan and these other high crime countries owe their crime rates to many other factors - lack of a stable government, corruption, ethnic tensions, drugs, lack of education etc. - and the justice system is quite irrelevant in these extreme circumstances.

I'm sorry if I seem aggressive, I just hate the fact that weak jail sentences leave the general public at risk to monsters. Jail should primarily be a place to keep dangerous people who would harm the rest of the populace until they are fit to rejoin society, and if prison is soft then there's not much incentive to obey the law when they leave. However I definately see your point and agree that rehabilitation is important, but it can't be used on its own just as punishment can't be used on its own too. A middle ground is the way to rehabilitate criminals - both the carrot and the stick are needed.

Good on ya mate

True sir, it seems that you folk across the ocean are very humanitarian, while we just like tp punish punish punish, why not take a small time criminal and make them into a hardend criminal, I hat ehow my country is ran haha, fuck

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Your dorm is still a hell of alot nicer then my brothers, still! xD

german prison cells are pretty much the same

Recently, the dutch goverment bought HD televisions for our prisons.. it's sad.

and skyrim also? ;)

america.. strange country..

Wow, where did you find Slovenia :D ?
Never knew someone would mention it :P

They were just examples, i thought of random countries. I myself am Romanian and there aren't many people who know zhere it is...

Rookie.

It would be nice if every country over here would be like Germany really..

Nicer if everything was Welsh, we'd have humour added to the mix then as well.

its true, its a picture from norway, where i live

well shit. murder gets a long prison sentence in norway, too, right?

a guy killed 80 people here. he just have to be in jail in 20 years

And yet it works much better than everywhere else...

if you're into punishment just kill them or torture them. If punishment was the purpose of prisons it no longer is

Perhaps they are more interested in rehabilitation... but I can see plenty exploiting the system.

I would understand the interest my country shows in rehabilitation if it actually worked...

The crime and murder rate here in Norway speaks for itself. And don't bring up Breivik, that wasn't crime, that was terrorism.

The maximum you can get is forever (elinkautinen). Everybody usualy gets freed by the president or the 2 degree of court (hovi-oikeus) after 12 years. There are inmates that have had to suffer up to sixteen years (jammu-setä).