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User avatar #1276 - ogrecaveman (10/04/2011) [-]
japan attacked up first, and we attacked back, al qaeda attacked us first and we are now attacking back, why cant people understand this??
User avatar #1312 to #1276 - insaneryan (10/04/2011) [-]
Vietnam didn't attack first.
User avatar #1322 to #1312 - jmbraze **User deleted account** (10/04/2011) [-]
Try telling that to the people in Texas in the 1980's.
User avatar #1326 to #1322 - insaneryan (10/04/2011) [-]
Pardon?
User avatar #1294 to #1276 - grundemo (10/04/2011) [-]
I doubt two nukes equating to millions of lives is decent compensation for a couple bombed ships equating to 1-100K lives -_-
#1317 to #1294 - EZBakeFourthAcct (10/04/2011) [-]
Killing millions of people would mean killing many times the population of both cities. The bombs are estimated to have killed about 250000 including radiation deaths. Pearl harbor casualties were about 2,400. Not taking sides, it just annoys me when people exaggerate greatly.
User avatar #1320 to #1317 - grundemo (10/04/2011) [-]
Well exageration dosn't means shit, so there's no point being annoyed by it
#1325 to #1320 - EZBakeFourthAcct (10/04/2011) [-]
Exaggeration does mean shit. Its a lie to sway people to you're side. Deceit. Thats annoying.
User avatar #1332 to #1325 - grundemo (10/04/2011) [-]
One million to one hundred thousand.......one hundred thousand to one thousand....See the pattern here? Either way Japan was much worse off and People, that means EVERYONE needs to shut the fuck up....Especially america
#1336 to #1332 - EZBakeFourthAcct (10/04/2011) [-]
Again, I was getting you're facts straight since you didn't bother doing the research. Nothing else. Learn to recognize things like this.
User avatar #1339 to #1336 - grundemo (10/04/2011) [-]
Nah I'm good with exageration thanks
#1346 to #1339 - EZBakeFourthAcct (10/04/2011) [-]
your also REALLY good with being stubborn. Have fun with that.
User avatar #1352 to #1346 - grundemo (10/04/2011) [-]
I am a taurus after all, it's a trait of ours =D
User avatar #1291 to #1276 - Ohaithar (10/04/2011) [-]
japan bombed a military harbor containing mainly soldiers with a couple airplanes and standard missiles.
You launched TWO environment destroying atomic bombs on TWO major populated cities with MORE innocent civilians than enemy soldiers, may i add that these TWO bombs still have effects on the people of the nation today due to it's high levels of RADIATION. Why can't YOU ignorant AMERICUNTS understand THIS?
#1388 to #1291 - drewbz (10/04/2011) [-]
A couple Airplanes, mainly soldiers and Standard Missles? Pearl Harbor contained 30-40% of the American Pacific fleet, many INNOCENT military personel and their families whose country had done nothing to provoke the agression of the Empire of Japan. Those two 'environment destroying bombs' you talked about? Yeah, they saved MILLIONS of lives. The Radicals in the Japanese government were prepared to sacrafice every single person rather than surrender, even going to the extent of arresting Emporer Hirohito to prevent him from surrendering. The U.S. Army estimated the casualties of invading Japan would be upward one million people. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few here, and I don't think WE are the ignorant ones here. We continually sacrafice OUR lives to protect the freedom of people who we don't even know and sometimes don't even like us, and you have the GALL to talk about US being IGNORANT?

Picture: Manila American Cemetery and Memorial
American- 16,636 Graves
Phillipines- 570 Graves

'IN PROUD REMEMBRANCE OF THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF HER SONS AND IN HUMBLE TRIBUTE TO THEIR SACRIFICES THIS MEMORIAL HAS BEEN ERECTED BY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1941-1945'
#1338 to #1291 - squallllll (10/04/2011) [-]
Hey Japan really shouldn't have attacked us if they didn't want retaliation, also as if you can judge what was right to do at the time you twat. You want to argue that the innocent civilians died in the A bomb attacks, you ignorant bastard have you never heard of the fucking draft, why are those who the government told to join the military better suited to die than those who weren't, those people did not sign up for the job and yet they gave their lives. IT WAS WAR UNLIKE ANYTHING OUR GENERATION COULD EVER IMAGINE, IF YOU THINK YOU COULD HAVE PUT AN END TO THE WAR WITHOUT ALL THE BLOODSHED THAN IT IS TRULY A SHAME THAT YOU WERE NOT IN CHARGE BACK THEN.
User avatar #1323 to #1291 - Javapenguin (10/04/2011) [-]
Hey MORON how about looking up the facts first?
1. We gave Japan A FUCKING YEAR to surrender.
2. We had no clue about the devastating effects a nuke could bring.
3. We were there within the week helping them out with doctors, nurses, and cleaning up the radiation.
4. People live there now
5. They didn't surrender after we dropped the first nuke.
6. They weren't majorly populated cities.
User avatar #1319 to #1291 - ogrecaveman (10/04/2011) [-]
regardless Japan attacked a country that was not at war with anyone only because they wanted control of the Pacific, it was there greed that cost them, though i do understand that innocent lives should not be lost for war.
#1316 to #1291 - N. Korean citizen (10/04/2011) [-]
it was called total war. if America actually invaded Japan, there would be about 1 million plus casualties on America's side alone; the Japanese would have fought for every square mile, and once they lost, many would commit suicide. America had to end the war, and this was pretty much the only way. But I guess we're bad guys tho; just ask about the rape of Nanking, the prisoners of Japan, and how Japan treated other countries that they were in possession of at the time.
#1309 to #1291 - N. Korean citizen (10/04/2011) [-]
If we invaded instead WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO WIPE OUT THE ENTIRE ISLAND why dont you dumbasses get it.
#1305 to #1291 - EZBakeFourthAcct (10/04/2011) [-]
Casualty estimations for continuing the island hopping campaign were about 1 million american servicemen and a similar number of japanese. Collateral damage would have also been immense. Pearl harbor had many civilians as well. However, the japanese military blended its bases in to the major cities, so bombing them also meant bombing people. Not saying two nukes were the right choices, but they didnt just drop them on whimsy to display force.
#1543 to #1305 - N. Korean citizen (10/04/2011) [-]
Actually america did... people are only looking at the face value facts. The use of the atom bomb was not solely an attempt to pacify Japan but also to show russia that america had nuclear dominance...
User avatar #1299 to #1291 - grundemo (10/04/2011) [-]
I love you so much right now XD
User avatar #1288 to #1276 - Achilliez (10/04/2011) [-]
Well we did nuke innocent people...
#1287 to #1276 - N. Korean citizen (10/04/2011) [-]
because your an ignorant
#1278 to #1276 - koolaidmanrulz **User deleted account** (10/04/2011) [-]
because people are ignorant
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