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#1189 - N. Korean citizen (07/17/2011) [-]
Oh this comic has it all, it propagates that gays are good and normal persons, that they should have the right to adopt children (different races if the oportunity occur), that they should have the right to get married. What the hell has happened world? This kind of multicultural bullshit would never been acceptable, how did the zionosts brainwash the mayority of people? Gay marriage weakens the christian faith in Europe, it drives people farther appart from each other because of the arguements on subject, then comes the immigrants, people split up even in to smaller groups, in the end everyone are hating everyone and the zionists dont have to make much of an effort to control Europe. Im not religious my self, but all the propaganda against christians is bullshit. Offcource there are retards christians, just like there are retarded atheists. The simple fact is that marriage can be only between a man and a woman because it is a religious traditsion. All the atheists protesting how hateful christians are for not letting gays get married are actually just as bad as they make out christians to be, they force down theyre own opinion on others, while they dont believe in the same thing. It would be considered hateful and ignorant if things would be the other way around. But like always people can see only one side of the coin.
User avatar #1307 to #1189 - rainbowsobe (09/05/2011) [-]
If you were gay, you'd want rights too.
User avatar #1281 to #1189 - RandomAnonGuy (07/22/2011) [-]
Well, yeah. Gays are good and normal people. Your point? Why shouldn't they be able to adopt children? Why should anyone have the right if gays can't? Why shouldn't they be able to marry? What's wrong with multiculturalism? Last I checked, primitive societies aren't the greatest places to derive your morality. The Christian faith in Europe oppresses gays, why is that okay? How would it weaken the faith anyway? I assume that gays don't want to be part of a religion that hates them anyway. It takes a lot of effort to control a country in a state of civil war. Stare into the void and the void stares back at you, haven't you seen any Christian dogma attempting to destroy the rights of gays? I have. Marriage isn't a religious tradition, I don't even know how to put into words why that is wrong and should never have been right. The day that protesting against something that is morally wrong is morally wrong in and of itself is the day that humanity needs to die out. You have made a series of statements with no backing whatsoever and sincerely admitted to everyone who reads your comment that you are a huge fucking arsewipe.
#1290 to #1281 - N. Korean citizen (07/25/2011) [-]
Read the comments below, if you havent got an anwser to your questions feel free to ask them again. And dont call me names, its hard to explain something to a person when you think that he is a 12 year old.
User avatar #1293 to #1290 - RandomAnonGuy (07/26/2011) [-]
Most of what you call "logical arguments" is based on the idea that we are all as ignorant as you are making yourself out to be. None of my above questions were answered.
#1294 to #1293 - N. Korean citizen (07/26/2011) [-]
1. Gays should not adopt children because children need a rolemodel of both genders. With a gay couple they get a double dose of one gender rolemodel and not the other ones. Children are very easy to immitate what they see, that can really mess the kid up. " Hey Jonny, i saw my two dads wrestle naked last night, you wanna try it?" And thats how a child can mess up his childhood. It isnt normal.
2.They cant get married because marriage is a religious traditsion and can only be between a man and a woman. Gays have never been able to marry, who are you to tell people that they should now? Just because i think differently im ignorant, who are you to tell me that im wrong, where is your proof? You only have an opinion, tell me, how are they normal? Gays are oppressing christians by making them change they´re ways. You can only see one side of the coin.If gays could get married it would be an insult to all the religions.
3.Multiculturism weakens European people with immigrants, different religions and crime. Eurpeans divide in to smaller groups that cant work together. multiculturism is killing Europe. Where ever immigrants go crime rate goes up. That is wrong with multiculturism.
4.How ever you look gays arent normal people, if it is a mental illness they arent normal, if it is a genetic mutation they arent normal. Even by evolution they arent normal, they cant produce offspring, they are a dead end of evolution. They simply arent normal.
User avatar #1303 to #1294 - RandomAnonGuy (07/27/2011) [-]
Single parents don't have both role models, and I have met zero people who have actually walked in on their parents fucking. besides that, two people of the same gender can take care of children without being in a relationship, and that is perfectly normal apparently. So that entire argument is invalid.
Marriage isn't just a religious tradition, it pre dates religion entirely. Religion never owned marriage, it never should have, and its simply wrong to discriminate based on your belief anyway. Its no longer socially acceptable to hate niggers, and soon it will no longer be socially acceptable to hate gays. How are gays normal? Well, I've met many gay people, and am friends with some. Never have I found an example of one who acts in a way that is any less normal than anyone else I know. I've met more people who act retarded or are psychotic that are straight than gay. Gays are not oppressing anyone! No one is stopping anyone from doing anything by letting gays marry! Who gives a fuck if it insults religion anyway? Why is it acceptable to let anyone say "I don't like that because a book says not to, stop that!"?
Multiculturalism is the acceptance or appreciation of multiple cultures. It does not cause crime. It does not weaken anything with immigrants. Assholes who think that their belief is more important than someone elses rights and freedoms do.
You are the result of an uncounted number of genetic mutations. When a "genetic mutation" is present in several species and has survived for many thousands of years instead of dying out, it is a beneficial mutation, or is at least not a problem. Otherwise the carriers of the mutation would have died out. Also, gays contribute to the gene pool (and evolution by extension) by caring for the children of family. So they aren't dead ends of anything.

In short, you are wrong in everything you have said.
#1304 to #1303 - N. Korean citizen (07/27/2011) [-]
Single parents have only one gender role model, but they dont have a double dose of it, and it is highly likely that the single parent will find a someone to get married to.Yes, two people of the same gender taking care of a kid is normal when they arent in a relationship, two guys or girls kissing infront of a kid is not normal. Because you have met zero people doesnt mean that it doesnt happen. It can mess up the kid in a very bad way.
It pre dates religion? Long as there have been people there has been religion. People have always believed in some higher power. You really think that cavemans did not have a religion? Paganism is also a religion you know. Long as there has been religion there has meen marriage, it is a religious traditsion. And in it only a man and a woman can get married, ignorant people like you are trying to change that.
"and its simply wrong to discriminate based on your belief anyway."- Well what the hell are you doing then? You believe that they should get married, religious people and the majority of people dont. Who are you to tell them that they should change? You a forcing down your opinion, they never have been able to get married, why should they now? because you think so? Well there are people who think they should not.
They are not normal because having sex between the same gender isnt normal. A specie can not survive like that. And the reason why it hasnt died out is because gays hided it and mated with the opposite sex when it was still considered to be unnormal, like it is. No, they dont contribute to the gene pool, they dont have offspring, caring for children does not contribute to the gene pool. They really are a dead end of evolution.
"Who gives a fuck if it insults religion anyway?" SEE HOW FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL YOU ARE? I dont even have words for it.
In short, you are a hypocrite who doesnt even believe in religion or care about it, yet thinks that he has the right to change it. And all your arguments were wrong.
User avatar #1305 to #1304 - RandomAnonGuy (07/27/2011) [-]
About as many people would have been messed up by having gay parents as those with straight. What does paganism have to do with this? And people only started to believe in a higher power when they began to question their existence. It hasn't been a constant and universal thing. Marriage has in most cultures. -Most-. I'm not discriminating. Someone is being a prick and I'm telling them not to be. The reason the majority of people are being pricks is because of a book that is important to them. That is not a good enough reason. Saying so is not discrimination. Homosexual tendencies are observed in a wide range of animals, so I guess you could argue that it is normal, but you really don't seem to care about reasons why homosexuality is normal, so I think I'll just leave it there.
By the way, my girlfriend of about 28.5 hours is Catholic. I'll check to see if she thinks you're a prick too. Whether or not she agrees I'll respect her opinion, because at least she admits that religion shouldn't be used as a weapon against other people.
User avatar #1276 to #1189 - thekillah (07/22/2011) [-]
Who the fuck are you to say i can't be with the person i love? Also, you're preaching about people only seeing one side of the coin? Really?
User avatar #1207 to #1189 - prettyasaswastika (07/17/2011) [-]
1: How do Zionists have anything to do with this?
2: This post mentions nothing of Christianity. It is only the Christian anti-gays that this is even associated with Christianity.
3: Marriage used to be completely disassociated from love or attraction. It used to be just a religious or political thing, but that has changed.
4: You yourself are not a Christian or even speaking of Christian ideology. You are what I like to call an asshole, following the faith of Asshole-ology.
#1211 to #1207 - N. Korean citizen (07/17/2011) [-]
1.The zionists propagate homosexuality, immigration, different religions- they support multiculturism. This kind of comic would never had been popular before the multicultural propaganda brainwashed people. This is how they are related to this post. If you would have bothered to read my comment more closely you would have realized it.
2.This post is to make people support gay marriages, marriage is christian tradition, sinceistianity is luckily still the most common religion in Europe and America. This is how it is related to christianity.
3.Marriage is a religious tradition, not only in the christian faith, also in judaism, hinduism, islam and so on, and in every religion marriage can only be between a man and a woman. If the same sex could get married it would be an insult to all the biggest religions in the world.
4. I actually was speaking of christian ideology, in christianity a man and a women cant get married. For some reason you dont understand it.
5. I never called anyone names, but you call me an asshole, that just shows your level of education and manners. Also the fact that i basically had to write my comment all over to explain it to you, when all of the answers to your questions were in my first comment makes you an idiot. You had no arguments, the only thing you were able to do call me an asshole in somewhat witty way. Congratulations on you lifes biggest achivement.
#1266 to #1211 - enlil ONLINE (07/20/2011) [-]
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#1228 to #1211 - prettyasaswastika (07/17/2011) [-]
I am bisexual, a LaVeyan Satanist, and gay marriage supporter. I have taken shit from fuckers like you every day. Now, we can continue this little internet fight for days, but unless I get the chance to see you in real life and kick your ass, I don't see any point in furthering this little feud. You will obviously continue to troll about this post, but as for me, I am fucking done with your shit.
Pretty as a Swastika, out.
User avatar #1265 to #1228 - enlil ONLINE (07/20/2011) [-]
LaVeyan Satanism rules.
#1256 to #1228 - N. Korean citizen (07/19/2011) [-]
I made logical points, had arguments, you on the other hand just tell me that you are gay and have to take shit everyday. And then you think you can kick my ass, you are to over confident, you dont even know who i am, but i guess everyone is tough on the internet, even bisexual satanists.
User avatar #1258 to #1256 - prettyasaswastika (07/19/2011) [-]
How do you call your bullshit logical? You claimed that this comic is Zionist propaganda meant to tear at the fabric of Christian morality. You have said enough to prove that you are nothing more than a complete shit-headed moron. You don't even have any idea what you are talking about.
#1263 to #1258 - N. Korean citizen (07/20/2011) [-]
If you would have actually read my comment you would have understanded that i claimed this kind of comic would never been accepted before the multicultural propaganda supported by zionists. I did not say that this comic is zionist propagnda, but you dont even take the time to read carefully and try to understand, you are to close minded.
"You don't even have any idea what you are talking about. " -Says the one who doesnt even bother to read my comment, you are the one who doesnt have an idea what you are talking about. My comments were logical, you calling it bullshit really doesnt change it.
But your kind of overconfidence and ignorance is expected from someone who follows the teaching of Lavey. Let me ask you something, who the hell is Lavey to tell that eveyone who isnt satanist is just a sheap in the heard? Who the fuck are you to tell that? You are a bisexual satanist who thinks that he/she can kick peoples (who he never even met)ass over the internet, you are worthless. Just because Lavey makes you think that you are god and the most important person in the world doesnt make it true, the sooner you realize it the better.
User avatar #1267 to #1263 - prettyasaswastika (07/20/2011) [-]
For fuck's sake, give it a rest. You don't even understand the teachings of LaVey. I don't recall him ever stating that just because you are not classified under the label of 'a Satanist' that you were a sheep in the herd. I never even said that. You are a hypocritical prick for complaining about me not reading your somewhat grammatically incorrect replies (even though I have), while you don't seem to have thoroughly read mine. I don't even praise myself as my own god. Nor do I view that I am the greatest person in the world or of great moral excellence. I merely stated that my ideological stance of being a Satanist has led me to be somewhat of social outcast due to ignorant hypocrites such as yourself. Stop fucking replying to this shit. You will not win. I do not know you, nor do I ever wish to know you. I just want to go on FJ without seeing your fucking replies. It is annoying, but even so, I will not let you continue bothering people by shoving your moral values down their throats. Just go somewhere else and end this. These internet fights are pointless, as they have no real 'winner' or 'loser'. An actual fight in real life would in fact have a winner and loser, so as said before, it would only make sense to stop this conflict unless a real and violent fight would be able to be seen. Thus ends my current reply; I shall be awaiting yours to see what you have to say in return, if anything at all.
#1268 to #1267 - N. Korean citizen (07/20/2011) [-]
I was not referring to your comment, i was referring to Laveys teachings in general. I have read the satanic bible and manuscriptures, besides the childish rituals that should make you get laid, or help someone, the most ridiculous part was where he said that you are the most important person in the world and that you should be egoistic and have a big ego. The whole religion is built to help people with low self esteem to feel good about themselves. I dont even see how its a religion, its basically people who think good about themselves. And yes, he or some "priest" did say that you are a sheep in the herd if you arent satanist, everyone who consumes media or believes in christianity is a sheep.He was just an asshole with an incredibly big ego giving hate speeches against christianity. One more thing, somewhere in the manuscriptures or essays he or another high ranking satanist said that people should wear theyre underpants so long that they would stay up when placed on the ground, what the fuck is wrong with you people anyway?
"I will not let you continue bothering people by shoving your moral values down their throats"
I dont shove my moral values down people throats, i gave my opinion. And so far you have just showed yourself as an immature bisexual satanist who calls people names and wants violent fights, you havent done anything to stop me.
I dont see this as a internet fight, more of a debate, if you would stop calling me names like a little child. This is the way mature people handle theyre problems. Unlike you, who wishes a violent fight, wars get started because of people like you.
But this has gone on long enough, there cant be an intelligent debate with a person whos best argument is that i follow the faith of Asshole-ology and "unless I get the chance to see you in real life and kick your ass"
I see no point to this because of your lack of logical thinking and immaturity. Like you wished i end it with this reply.Dont reply to this if you want to end it.
User avatar #1269 to #1268 - prettyasaswastika (07/21/2011) [-]
In a way, I do owe you more of an understanding. So far, I have treated this as a hateful battle, mostly due to the fact that the beginning statement made by yourself began with clearly implying gays were not normal people. I see that in your mind, I am not mature nor have given you enough respect.
I'm going to try and not mention another word of what has been debated over this thread so far, and instead try and restart this whole thing to be more of an actual debate. I only want honest answers.
1. What is your view on homosexuality, in women and men?
2. Do you believe homosexuals of either gender are immoral?
3. What do you find wrong, if anything, with homosexuality?
4. Thoroughly, what is your religious stance?
5. Thoroughly, what is your political stance?
6. What is your favorite film?
7. What is your favorite band, musical group, or musical genre?
#1286 to #1269 - N. Korean citizen (07/24/2011) [-]
1. I view it as a mental illness or genetic mutation. I view it a as a mental illness because physically there is nothing wrong with the person, he or she could have babies with the opposite sex. Its all in the head. And claiming that homosexuality is natural is wrong and right in the same time. There is nothing natural about the same gender having sex with each other because it would simply kill the entire specie if everyone would do it. A specie simply cant survive if they are homosexual, its logical. On the other hand there are cases of homosexuality in the animal kingdom, but mostly its because horny males dont have females around them so they just have sex with everything they see.
If it is a genetic mutation and a person cant help it its a dead end of evolution.
Either way it should not be propagated as normal because it just simply isnt.
2.It isnt about being moral or not, its about propagating it to people ( especially to little children) as a normal and a good thing. You dont propagate schizophrenia now do you. Like i said above, if it is a mental illness or a genetic mutation there cant be a moral stance.
3.I explained in nr1 and nr2.
4. I believe that there is more to this world then we see, but it sure as hell isnt a bearded guy sitting on a cloud.Its thoroughly as it gets.
5. Mostly right wing. It is hard to but my political stance in to words since my mother language isnt english. I support the idea that every country should be to theyre own people, that every race should have its own continent and that immigration and race mixing in Europe should stop because white people are starting to be the minority here. - I do realize that it makes me sound racist but i dont hate other races, i just dont want to see my own race destroyed. If you are from America then you dont understand what is going on in Europe.
6.Dont have a particular one, when there is a good message in the movie without alternative motives.
7. Rock, punk, Rock 'n' Roll, classic, ballads.
User avatar #1287 to #1286 - prettyasaswastika (07/24/2011) [-]
Well, strangely enough we are a bit similar. I also believe that homosexuality is a partially genetic thing, yet one's experiences in life could also have an effect on things. Although, I do not view most genetic mutations as bad, considering that they add variation to our species’ gene pool and that homosexuals usually don't realize that they are not attracted to the opposite gender until some time later (sometimes at age 13, sometimes at age 50). Also, the field of work I am going into involves mutagenesis, chimaeras, and transgenics, so you can see my openness to any genetic variation in humans.
I am in favor of anarchist political theory, yet I think gradual steps would be more logical than just jumping from one side of the spectrum to another. And I am sort of aware of what is going on in Europe, and I do appreciate a sense of pride in one's own background (I also am white).
Also, as far as religion, I believe that people should do as they wish, as long as it doesn’t bring too much harm to others. I also believe there is a certain accordance with all things and their polar opposites. I have no god or goddess which I have any faith in, but I also think that something is out there.
I would like to say that there is no point in trying to build up the human race into something strong, pure, or powerful, unless people are able to do as they wish.
#1288 to #1287 - N. Korean citizen (07/24/2011) [-]
Well do you think propagating homosexuality to children as a normal and a good thing is right?
How do you see anarchy actually working?
User avatar #1289 to #1288 - prettyasaswastika (07/24/2011) [-]
Any and all political theories have failed to a certain extent. Anarchism is just one of many ideologies. The way I see it is as laws and rules eventually fading away and government not having much of a say in personal lives. Left in the hands of the responsible and the working class, it has the chance to be successful. Anarchy in my mind is people governing themselves and not treating others all too cruelly. People of modern-day are unable to comprehend this idea, yet in time, with gradual steps, anarchy could become a highly successful political ideology (although it would most likely be put into practice in a very small nation at first).
As far as any kind of sexuality, I do not think it is something to introduce to a child's mind too much. Around age 13 is when sexuality should be talked about in depth. At around that age, they should be able to decide for themselves what they intend to do in life.
#1291 to #1289 - N. Korean citizen (07/25/2011) [-]
You dont take the human nature in count. If there would be no rules or laws people with the most power would take charge and would make a military dictatorship. You cant expect all the people to live in harmony, there will always be people who are ambitious and selfish, well actually most of the people are.
What you said about sexuality i mostly agree, but homsexuality cant be propagated as a natural and a normal thing, because it simply isnt. How ever you view it a genetic mutation or a mental illness is not a normal thing.
User avatar #1292 to #1291 - prettyasaswastika (07/25/2011) [-]
As I have said, anarchism (or, for that matter, anything similar) can not simply be achieved right here and now in our time. Achieving anarchism would require small gradual steps over time, which may already be well on its way. Everything we know about humanity as of right now is slowly changing as the human race evolves to fit its own needs. With revolutionary breakthroughs in scientific fields of study and the rise of new philosophers soon to occur within decades we will begin to see the emergence of a new way of thinking, a new set of ideologies and morality, a new world.
All of this may sound unusual, or completely insane, yet change is a part of nature, and humanity can not remain the same forever.
#1230 to #1228 - thedumbledore (07/17/2011) [-]
I decided i couldn't be bothered with a right wing 12 year old as well.
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#1214 to #1211 - N. Korean citizen (07/17/2011) [-]
Oh, and i forgot, they support multiculturism only in Europe and America, Israel has one of the worlds strictest immigration laws. They only support multiculturism to drive Europeans further apart from each other so they could gain power more easely.
User avatar #1199 to #1189 - thedumbledore (07/17/2011) [-]
next time, have the courage to log in and voice your ignorant and very obviously right wing opinions instead of being scared of getting thumbed down. love is love dip shit, people should be allowed to marry who they like. it's gonna happen eventually so just get over it.
#1201 to #1199 - N. Korean citizen (07/17/2011) [-]
I dont have an account and why should i be afraid of being thumbed down? I dont care what people i dont know think about me, im not so insecure, unlike you. Its your opinion, i have mine, you were the one who called me dip shit. Looks like someone is being ignorant and not capable of understanding and respecting others opinions.
Love is love? If a man loves a sheep is it still love? Should they have the right to get married? Marriage is religious tradition, how can you not understand it. It can be only between a man and a woman. Its ignorant people like you who force the church to change traditions. What right do people who dont believe in the same thing as religious people have to tell them what to do? How can you be so self righteous?
User avatar #1282 to #1201 - RandomAnonGuy (07/22/2011) [-]
Love between two consenting adults is not the same as a guy fucking a sheep because he loves it. Its considered wrong for half the reason pedophilia is considered wrong.
User avatar #1277 to #1201 - thekillah (07/22/2011) [-]
yet you care what people you dont know think about gay marriage? fuck off.
User avatar #1202 to #1201 - thedumbledore (07/17/2011) [-]
So i log in, voice my opinions and that makes me insecure how...? Speaking of respect, why did you launch into a full on rant if you respect others?

You seem to be living in the illusion that marriage is owned by Christianity and the church. Marriage predates Christianity by thousands of years. I believe gays SHOULD be allowed to get married. you obviously do not. let us leave it at that, i don't wish to start some sort of internet rage fest.
#1213 to #1202 - N. Korean citizen (07/17/2011) [-]
So I dont have an account, voice my opinion and im a coward, you on the other hand voice your opinion while logged in in to an account are normal? You are insecure because you care about thumbs, what people who you dont know think of you.
"Speaking of respect, why did you launch into a full on rant if you respect others?" I had an opinion, i never discriminated anyone exept zionists, you called me dip shit.
Marriage is owned by all the biggest religions in the world, and in everyone of them only a man and a woman can get married.
You have your opinion, have mine, but you are so self righteous that you think that im am a dip shit for thinking differently from you, you try to seem nice but you are really just ignorant.
User avatar #1278 to #1213 - thekillah (07/22/2011) [-]
and you're really just a fucking asshole.
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