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#1262 - mourinhoism (03/28/2011) [-]
That student is ******* dumb by the way

1. Faith is universal, it is not exclusive to religion, just because religion has a monopoly over faith does not make faith an asset of religion. Faith is simply trust.
2. The words "Cold" and "Darkness" are adjectives to states, they are not a definitive entity, as is the word "Hot" or "Light"
3. God is NOT good (if he exists that is). If God is omnibenevolent as he and everyone claim, and omnipotent, then how does he allow evil to exist and thrive, since he is the ultimate good?
4. This little account, being fictional, does not prove the existence of a God, it merely shows how ignorant the fictional character of the professor is.
5. I KNOW this is meant as a joke, it hilarious, but still not valid
#1289 to #1262 - EvilApples (03/28/2011) [-]
Bitch you just called Albert Einstein " ******* dumb"
#1301 to #1289 - mourinhoism (03/28/2011) [-]
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

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Albert Einstein.
#1302 to #1301 - EvilApples (03/28/2011) [-]
You may call me an agnostic... I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.

Albert Einstein
User avatar #1390 to #1302 - mourinhoism (03/29/2011) [-]
I really like how you removed the first part of the quote. Shows a weak argument.

I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist ....
#1304 to #1302 - mourinhoism (03/28/2011) [-]
I don't try to imagine a personal God; it suffices to
stand in awe at the structure of the world, insofar as it
allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it.

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Albert Einstein
#1376 to #1304 - EvilApples (03/29/2011) [-]
I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws.

Albert Einstein
#1385 to #1376 - mourinhoism (03/29/2011) [-]
The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems
even naive.

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Albert Einstein
#1388 to #1385 - EvilApples (03/29/2011) [-]
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind

Albert Einstein
#1391 to #1388 - mourinhoism (03/29/2011) [-]
The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.
#1394 to #1391 - EvilApples (03/29/2011) [-]
In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views.

Albert Einstein
User avatar #1400 to #1394 - mourinhoism (03/29/2011) [-]
Wait. What are you doing?

It seems that you are collecting PARTS of quotes by Einstein regarding his religious views, and it clearly shows he had none.

He was an agnostic and he called the idea of God childish and naive, and I have a whole library of quotes to support that, but you seem to take PARTS of those quotes in which he speaks in his PANTHEISTIC self, and leave out the parts in which he ridicules religion and belief in some god.

I believe in Spinoza's God, who reveals himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.

Spinoza's God, Nature, not your Judeo-Christian God.
User avatar #1410 to #1400 - EvilApples (03/30/2011) [-]
Isn't that what you were doing? Collecting PARTS of quotes by Einstein from all over the place? I also know that he was agnostic but my original point was going to be that Einstein did infact believe in a God which says something. Whether or not he believed in a personal God was beside my point. I just find it absurd that you would call Albert Einstein " ******* dumb" because he was anything but " ******* dumb".
User avatar #1413 to #1410 - mourinhoism (03/30/2011) [-]
Einstein never said that!

My english teacher showed it to me a long time ago, and this was editted, thats NOT the original script. the Original talks about faith and the presence of a brain in the professor's head.

Thats why I said in my 1st comment that faith is universal, not exclusive to religion. Nonetheless, Einstein was an Pantheistic atheist, an atheistic agnostic, a religious non-believer. He did NOT believe in the Judeo-Christian god.
User avatar #1414 to #1413 - EvilApples (03/30/2011) [-]
What was the original text then? I realise that he did not believe in a Judeo-Christian God but my two original points were that he did in fact believe that there was a creator and that you in fact called Einstein " ******* dumb". Whether or not he believed in a personal God is beside my point.
User avatar #1415 to #1414 - mourinhoism (03/30/2011) [-]
Again, he did NOT believe in a creator! How many times must I say that, what part of ATHEIST, AGNOSTIC, PANTHEIST, NON-BELIEVER don't you get?

You need to login to view this link


Here ...

Einstein NEVER took part in that conversation.
User avatar #1416 to #1415 - EvilApples (03/30/2011) [-]
So how do I know if this site is reliable or not? Perhaps if you gave me more sources that looked more authentic. What about all the quotes the are circulating the internet of stuff he said that shows he had some belief in a God? Does not have to be a personal God can simply mean he believed that there was a being who created the universe.
User avatar #1422 to #1417 - EvilApples (04/01/2011) [-]
Even if Einstein did not say those things in that classroom and even if the professor was ficticious then my point still stands that Einstein was NOT an Atheist. Although he did not show evidence of following any particular faith he believed in a God, perhaps not a Judeo-Christian one.

Another one of his most famous quotes was

"God does not play dice with the universe."

There is also a story that he went to a concert to hear a very young Yehudi Menhuin (sp?) playing the violin and at the end when he met the boy he said "now I know there is a God"

Also if the story was infact true then you called Albert Einstein " ******* dumb".
User avatar #1424 to #1422 - mourinhoism (04/01/2011) [-]
By the way, Stephen Hawking uses the word "God" a lot, Carl Sagan used the word "God" a lot, but they were both Atheists. Why use the word God? Because It's Poetic EINSTEINIAN Pantheism!

Hemingway Used the word God.
Dawkins uses the word God.
Hitchens doesn't :P
Most Atheist philosophers use the word God!!


PANTHEISM.
User avatar #1423 to #1422 - mourinhoism (04/01/2011) [-]
For the upteenth time, his God was not a personified, manifestation-able God, it's NATURE!


PANTHEIST PANTHEIST PANTHEIST!!!

Damn It!!! Give in! Einstein did NOT believe in your Imaginary Sky Daddy!

The order in nature, and universal harmony, like an orchestra! And an orchestra has a conductor. His God might have been GRAVITY or ANTIMATTER. But Not a GOD, not a DEITY, a manifestation of harmony and interconnectivity, maybe Dark Matter.
User avatar #1426 to #1423 - EvilApples (04/02/2011) [-]
And why did he also say this then.

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."
User avatar #1425 to #1423 - EvilApples (04/02/2011) [-]
If he was a pantheist then why did he say this?

"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws."

User avatar #1428 to #1425 - mourinhoism (04/02/2011) [-]
The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms.

'God does not play dice'
should be translated as 'Randomness does not lie at the heart of all
things.?'
User avatar #1427 to #1425 - mourinhoism (04/02/2011) [-]
In 1940 Einstein wrote a famous paper justifying his statement 'I do not believe in a personal God.' This and similar statements provoked a storm of
letters from the religiously orthodox, many of them alluding to
Einstein's Jewish origins.
A pantheist, like Spinoza, whose philosophy he admired: 'I
believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly
harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with
fates and actions of human beings'?
Pantheists don't believe in a supernatural God at all, but use the word God as a nonsupernatural synonym for Nature, or for the Universe, or for the
lawfulness that governs its workings.
#1266 to #1262 - desklamp (03/28/2011) [-]
You start your critique with an ad-hominem and then expect me to keep reading?

Hahaha
User avatar #1270 to #1266 - mourinhoism (03/28/2011) [-]
Well, I did reply quickly and impulsively after reading the post.

You don't have to read it, but others will.
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