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User avatar #295 - xXDoomYXx **User deleted account** (03/26/2011) [-]
okay so red thumbs here i come

what i interpret from this is not that the country and the law is bullshit, but the idea of freedom itself is bullshit, that no one in any kind of government is REALLY free, even those middle eastern countrys follow laws, religious at that, but even so theyre still worse then ours, theres no country without some kind of laws, and they all end in inevitable death of a life that you never really wanted to live. when your a kid you dream of being things like an astronaut or some kind of sports star but do we always end up living that life? no we dont. we live this life, of "freedom". im not complaining, im not irate, but really think about what you REALLY want out of life. whats REAL freedom to you.

User avatar #306 to #295 - GrnLantern (03/26/2011) [-]
True but you can become an astronaut or whatever you want if you work towards it. True some people aren't able to do that but we don't even everyone in America being astronauts or rock stars or whatever. We are free to choose what we want to do and that's enough freedom for me. Is America perfect? Hell no. But we need laws. If there would no laws there would be chaos, it is the nature of man to cause destruction. I don't know what exactly you people want, but i'm good where i'm at right now.

Tl;dr: This post is gay
User avatar #309 to #306 - xXDoomYXx **User deleted account** (03/26/2011) [-]
fear does create irrational thinking. so suppressing people with laws and standardization of the things contrary to their dreams, to push people in a way to disturb the process of working to create there dreams, mistakes are made. and that makes it more likely that people dont get what they want. and its also proven that the death sentence does not stop people from commiting crime, so therefore its also said that you tell someone to not do something, makes it more likely theyll do it anyway. laws dont just kep people safe, it contradicts human nature to fill in the empty space of knowing what said law told them not to do. curiousity killed the cat. simply put manner.
User avatar #310 to #309 - GrnLantern (03/26/2011) [-]
I get where you're coming from, but some laws are necessary. Making it alright to kill people isn't going to stop people from killing people either. Even if we have laws, we're better off than most
User avatar #311 to #310 - xXDoomYXx **User deleted account** (03/26/2011) [-]
and thats exactly my point. were not free, just better off then most.
User avatar #308 to #306 - xXDoomYXx **User deleted account** (03/26/2011) [-]
i dont want anything, and your totally missing the point. the point simply put is that there's no real definition of freedom here. and what your saying is that this is enough freedom for you, that what you know is good enough, thats good for you, but i can say now, that i know more then you do. i look at things more broader then "just what it is and ill take it". i look beyond that, and i see the things ive already said. human nature is not destruction, its filling in empty spaces. in psychology its proven that if you tell someone not to do something its more likely that theyll do it then if you hadnt tell them to not do it. thats because humans are curious creatures. to fill the empty space. and fear, creates irrational thinking.
User avatar #314 to #308 - pedoheadhunter **User deleted account** (03/26/2011) [-]
xXDoomYXx america has to have laws if we didnt our world as we know it would fall around us. fear is something that holds us back from doing something that you know is wrong fear tells us that if you kill you will be killed i believe america's society is right where it should be
User avatar #315 to #314 - xXDoomYXx **User deleted account** (03/26/2011) [-]
i know that. but using fear to direct your actions is not something anybody should do because fear creates irrational thinking. im not saying im agreeing with the anarchists or anything. im saying that theres no real definition for freedom here.
User avatar #316 to #315 - pedoheadhunter **User deleted account** (03/26/2011) [-]
freedom is being able to pray to anybody, or to go to school or not, or to own a gun or not, or to wear what ever you want, or to go on the internet, or to have a phone, or to get a job, or to run around outside, or to drive if your a woman(in some countrys you can't) i can give more examples if you want me to. fear is the only way this works if you knew that if you stole 100 pounds of candy and nothing would happen would you
User avatar #317 to #316 - xXDoomYXx **User deleted account** (03/26/2011) [-]
thats your idea of what freedom is. thats freedom in a sense of independence among the masses and society. but its being able to BE what you want. what your dreams are, and being able to do them is the bigger picture. NOT dying in a life of just how it has been stated. because the government has standardized you to that level. were better off then most countrys, thats for certain, but i can hardly say that were really free. your still missing my bigger picture. i cant explai it anymore then i already have. it realy does go alot deeper then just freedom in that sense, alot deeper then that.
User avatar #319 to #317 - pedoheadhunter **User deleted account** (03/26/2011) [-]
we are free go to any other country then come back and say we are not free. hell go join the military and then become a civilian again and tell me we are not free
#302 to #295 - TehRap (03/26/2011) [-]
Freedom is doing whatever the fuck you want to
#298 to #295 - Hamish (03/26/2011) [-]


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