I'm not even sorry. .. The only 9/11 jokes I mind are the ones about how Americans "talk about 9/11 all the time" and stuff like that, because it's completely untrue. I live I'm not even sorry The only 9/11 jokes I mind are the ones about how Americans "talk all time" and stuff like that because it's completely untrue live
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#7 - I Am Monkey
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The only 9/11 jokes I mind are the ones about how Americans "talk about 9/11 all the time" and stuff like that, because it's completely untrue. I live in New York and go to a college where a lot of students died in the attacks and I didn't hear a word about it all day. In fact, I just got back from the memorial about 5 minutes ago people hardly even talked there. They just paid their respects.
I took this photo while I was there. The lights are pretty inspirational.
User avatar #104 to #7 - treska
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So you lived that, I have a question: How is that the towers collapse from top to bottom if the planes only hit the top of them? From a structural point of view, I think it has no sense, since you have to "attack" the bottom of them to make them demolish like that. Just asking, no offense.
User avatar #160 to #104 - Sethorein
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towers wobble... gravity does the rest... looks like it's falling straight but in reality it was angled... the top floors collapsed on each floor below...
User avatar #125 to #104 - graydiggy
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You are an idiot.

When you hit a building about 3/4s of the way up from the ground with a big ******* plane, it weakens the structure. The top of the structure falls and weakens the stuff below it as it impacts each floor. When that happens, it is known as a domino effect. Once that starts with a huge building, nothing is going to stop it because it's structural integrity is continuously failing as more **** comes down.

Take your ******** conspiracy theories somewhere else and shut the **** up.

User avatar #145 to #125 - timmywankenobi
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acording to witnesses at the first tower the sub basments exploded first then the lobby then the rest of the building. why the **** did the basement explode first ? and since when does a jut fuel fire burn for 3 weeks ?
User avatar #162 to #145 - Sethorein
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because everyone knows that there was no other sources of flamable material in the wreckage of the building...
User avatar #249 to #145 - heartlessrobot
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Even if actual witnesses DID say that, the impact from the plane would have jarred the building, causing drywall to split and spray dust out. I've seen similar on a much smaller scale when someone punches a hole through drywall.
User avatar #253 to #249 - timmywankenobi
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does dry wall cause 3rd degree burns ?
User avatar #254 to #253 - heartlessrobot
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When it's on fire, yes.
User avatar #256 to #254 - timmywankenobi
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the sub basement wasn't on fire according to the 911 report. also fire fighters reported being thrown up wards at the same moment the janitors in the basment claim a bomb like explosion happened and that there was no fire before the explosions which were after the plane hit.
User avatar #257 to #256 - heartlessrobot
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Well, the ******* tried to put a bomb under the first time they tried to drop the towers, maybe they did it again as a plan b, and people don't want to admit they got through security a second time.
User avatar #258 to #257 - timmywankenobi
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That is quite possible.
User avatar #259 to #258 - heartlessrobot
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More likely than it being an inside job.
User avatar #247 to #145 - sirhyden
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Sure 500 odd people witnessed the Titanic sinking and they couldn't agree on weither she split on the way down or on the surface..... eyewitness accounts in a panicky situation arn't always accurate....
User avatar #255 to #247 - timmywankenobi
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fair enough but witnesses also said they saw un marked vans in the basment before the explosions in the basement.
#193 to #145 - anon id: a275b6c4
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you could be talking about an earlier bombing which happened in the parking under the buildings
User avatar #192 to #125 - treska
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Look, kind sir, first of all, I said no offense.

I know you think that I am a paranoid sick, but I'm just asking. You all have heard that in the media, and that's ok, but that structure was way too strong to just "melt down".

Try to build a prototype of it, with whatever you want (since whatever you build it with, it will be weaker than the actual building structure) and throw something very heavy (not very big) to the 3/4s of the way up. If your prototype's foundations is solid enough, you will see that the entire tower doesn't collapse. Repeat again with a very well anti-terrorist designed, steel structured tower.

*The mass of the planes was 1/1000 times the mass of the towers.
User avatar #204 to #192 - capslockrage
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It didn't just "melt down"
#195 to #192 - anon id: a275b6c4
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well you must consider what was used to build the structure. the impact itself doesn't destroy the whole structure. fire weakened metal holding the inner girders with the one outside walls letting the metal to bend and break so the weight slowly collapses on top.
User avatar #209 to #195 - enforecer
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The problem with that theory good sir is why many have considered it to have been an inside job

Government or private doesn't really matter, think of who can benefit most "IF" it was

Now consider that the buildings WERE in fact designed to be hit by planes and keep standing AND that jet fuel and even the secondary fuel DOES NOT burn hot enough for that metal to yield.

Yes we have heard the argument that the upper levels collapsed creating a "Domino Effect", as much as this makes sense remember the load bearing strength required of the building to stay standing during the various degrees of temperature and at that height angles of wind... To say that what remained of the upper levels was enough to crush the lower into a controlled demolition is an insult to all of the people who planned and constructed the building

There were many attempts on those buildings in past years so nothing can be for certain outside of keeping an open mind and taking everything in for careful analysis THEN and ONLY then, making and informed judgement

User avatar #248 to #209 - heartlessrobot
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The fuel itself doesn't normally burn hot enough, but when you add flaming people, papers, computers, etc (**** you find in a business type area), **** gets really ******* hot. Steel studs and framing melt in regular housefires. Now add jet fuel to the mix. Also, 9/11 wasn't the first attack on the towers, they attempted using a van full of bombs (I forget when) directly beneath one of the towers, but a parking attendant told them they couldn't park where they tried for some reason. It still blew up, people died, there was damage, but the tower stayed up because the bomb wasn't in the right spot.
User avatar #262 to #248 - enforecer
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I really didn't want to reply to this as I can tell you haven't done your homework or read my last statement so here goes...

Third line said "Secondary Fuel", that meant people papers computers cubicles etc.

Codes to make HOUSES are different, much different than skyscrapers. Because of that different types of metals and alloys are used in their construction and NOT in houses because of the sheer cost

I did mention before of the previous attacks on them but the biggest fault with those attacks from the ground was piss poor planning. More slack jaws though they could do it because rudimentary physics says it will work.
Ever heard of Tungsten Steel? Do you know the difference between that and regular steel or even stainless?
The point I am trying to make (while not trying to bash you either, so no offense intended) is that people think what they know is true without doing research, without planning ahead, this is the recipe for disaster. The previous attacks could have worked if they used better materials or a BUS of the original, NOT a VAN. The span the explosives would have to travel makes an attack like that unfeasible
User avatar #203 to #104 - capslockrage
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They didn't
User avatar #189 to #104 - drewbridge
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It's really ******* simple.

The tower that got hit lower collapsed first, even though it hadn't been hit for as long.
The tower that got hit higher stayed around longer because it didn't have as much weight above the point of impact.

Are you retarded?
#153 to #104 - anon id: 9583450e
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explosive demolition charges built into the main load bearing points, dumbass.
User avatar #85 to #7 - olelicious
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"I go to a college where a lot of students died in the attacks"
User avatar #15 to #7 - siridontcare
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I heard it 6 times today and its been on T.V. I live in N.C.
User avatar #19 to #15 - I Am Monkey
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Well it's the anniversary of the biggest terrorist attack ever. You can't expect them not to report on it. My point is; people aren't obsessing over it the way the Internet thinks we are. The internet's probably the only one obsessing over it.
#106 to #19 - mycatislookingatme
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Biggest terrorist attack ever.

That's a matter of perspective, 250,000 people died in the Hiroshima bombings.

Japan turned up on America's doorstep, and killed some people. - So retaliation happened.

America turned up in the Middle East, and killed some people. - In the perspective of the Al Qaeda, they're doing exactly the same thing.



I mean, I'm playing devil's advocate here, but you get my point, you have to look at it from other people's angles, as far as they were concerned, it was just retaliation.

Imma get redthumb ****** for this, but I live in hope that one day FJ will grasp the concept of playing Devil's Advocate.

In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who, given a certain argument, takes a position he or she does not necessarily agree with, for the sake of debate. ~Wikipedia
#148 to #106 - dsrtpnk
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I keep hearing about renaming the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings to a terrorist act, like 9-11, but I don't how that can be considering the fact that it happened during a declared war between the US and Japan.
I also never saw any Japanese screaming for revenge for that "terrorist act" either, it's always the non-Japanese comparing the two events and seemingly wish to rewrite history.
I don't think US has to fear any extreme violence and destruction coming from Japan anytime soon. Probably because they don't want a cycle of revenge.
User avatar #260 to #148 - timmywankenobi
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the japaneese did scream for revenge but they were completely devastated by the two bombs.
User avatar #261 to #260 - dsrtpnk
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How can they scream for revenge for the atomic bombing before the atomic bombing?
User avatar #163 to #106 - Sethorein
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hiroshima and nagasaki were not terrorist attacks...
User avatar #245 to #163 - commontroll
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Well, technically yes, they are. They were sudden and powerful attacks meant to strike fear into the hearts of the Japanese and the Emperor. However, they were also the best route possible. We're still using the same purple heart medals that were made in preparation for a conventional invasion of Japan, and it would have ended almost in genocide.

The bombings were awful, yes, but they were the best possible choice for the US to make, for both them and Japan. 9/11 was the worst thing Al-Qaeda could have done with the resources they had, that's why they did it.

And their actions triggered a war which has now killed over a hundred thousand Iraqi citizens, almost all of them killed by terrorist bombings, as opposed to the nuclear bombs, which were absolutely terrible, but they ended a war. That was their purpose, and they had to do overkill to do it.
User avatar #223 to #163 - keiishiyama
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They were. As necessary as they were, both bombings were terrorist attacks.

Civilian lives were ended and noncombat property was devastated. That is enough to be called a terrorist attack; no other definition is necessary.
#220 to #106 - scg
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You got guts.............. we need guts
User avatar #114 to #106 - lebarricuda
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This is how I lost all my friends.
#154 to #114 - anon id: 9583450e
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it wasn't your shining personality that killed them?
User avatar #263 to #154 - lebarricuda
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No, it's the fact that It's next to inhuman to not get angry at someone playing Devil's Advocate.
User avatar #111 to #106 - Hreidmar
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While you do have a point, we're talking from the point of people living in/listening to american media. This was the biggest ever attack on American soil (Don't be a wise-arse and say that technically the Native Americans were terrorised, etc...) To many people here, the 9/11 attacks have much more significance than anything that's happened in the Middle East or during a war.
User avatar #112 to #111 - mycatislookingatme
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I know, and I agree, I was just contesting the statement that it was the "Biggest terrorist attack ever".
User avatar #224 to #112 - keiishiyama
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It's not the biggest terrorist attack ever. No American with half a brain will say otherwise. But it's the worst foreign attack to occur on our territory.
User avatar #131 to #112 - Hreidmar
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I understand. All I'm saying is that to many people in America, it is the biggest attack ever. Not because of the body count but because of the significance of it. That's not being uneducated or dismissive about other attacks worldwide, it's just personal effect.
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User avatar #51 to #19 - sandez
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Tbf though people used the "people always talk about it" line years back when people did talk about it all the time. Maybe you need to move on from that line?
User avatar #25 to #19 - Onikos
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12 years later, it's time to move on. yeah, it sucked. but honestly. the whole "never forget" thing is stupid. forget about it and move on, we've got bigger issues to worry about.
User avatar #81 to #25 - commontroll
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It's good to remember it, but to always mourn it is just stupid. We still remember Pearl Harbor, but we don't mourn it.
#82 to #25 - luigiyoshi **User deleted account**
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We've got issues to worry about. That doesn't mean you forget history. You keep everything that happens close to mind so you have a better idea of how to act in those situations. We aren't spending months trying to figure out ways to make this the biggest aniversary in history. It's respecting those who died, their families and friends, and it is always remembering that these things can and do happen. Don't worry, you can be back to bitching about Obama and all the **** he is causing again. It's one day where you just give it a thought and continue doing what you do.
User avatar #147 to #7 - moooossseeee
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Im in school about 25min by train on Long Island, and other than the school trying to make a big deal about it and show respect, the student body barely said a word about it.
User avatar #161 to #7 - lametitan
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I didn't even get to see the lights last night from where i live by the time i got out of work they was already shut off.
#233 to #7 - voltism
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i hear about it nonstop in massachusetts
User avatar #155 to #7 - yorker
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************ I swear to god you better get me a picture of the Nikola Tesla mural on your apartment don't think I forgot it.
#198 to #155 - I Am Monkey
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I posted it in the original thread. But here it is again...
(The timestamp is from the original post)
User avatar #206 to #198 - yorker
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<3
User avatar #227 to #7 - leonhardtv
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>Terrorists blow up buildings
>"Never again"
>Shoot giant lasers into the sky all the time
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>airliner flies through Malcolm In The Middle - Dewey's birthday
User avatar #80 to #7 - commontroll
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I took a moment of silence at the time the second plane hit, because I was up already and watching the news and they were having it live. I honestly cried really badly and I don't know why. However, the rest of my day, I lived normally. In my mind, the best way to honor the dead is to live, because they can't any more.
User avatar #221 to #80 - bongobongo
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I was five when the planes hit, all I remember is seeing the footage on the news and asking why they didn't go around the buildings.
User avatar #243 to #221 - commontroll
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Oh, I mean yesterday.

I was... seven, and in San Antonio with my dad for a cool conference with all these gadgets and stuff. We were there one day, then the next morning the planes hit. The worst thing is that our generation had to grow up knowing that people could be driven to such terrible things by their hate.
User avatar #211 to #7 - goldenglimmer
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Thank you for being on FJ, I Am Monkey.

I always appreciate your insight, be it political, philosophical, factual or casual.

I am unable to post on your profile, but I wanted you to know that nonetheless.
#76 to #7 - klina
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I thought those were spaceship afterburners from Freelancer, the game.
I thought those were spaceship afterburners from Freelancer, the game.
#107 to #7 - igenatius
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Batman: The animated series intro.

I just can't unsee the similarity.
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and here to deliver the tasteless jokes.
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Plot twist.
Plot twist.
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What if there were two people ******* in an office in one of the buildings, they're even ******* in death
#175 to #173 - felixjarl
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Even in death i still ****.
#176 to #175 - lightshadow
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You mean "Even still in death"
#177 to #176 - felixjarl
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And to make it hurt even more for me, the comment i deleted was with those exact words.
And to make it hurt even more for me, the comment i deleted was with those exact words.
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I was quoting your last comment
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Yay for Postal, the one game-to-movie movie I actually liked
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I enjoyed forward unto dawn. They did a great job of making the student's actually look panicked about the ODST dropping in right next to them. I feel like I would feel the same way if there were an emergency at my university and everyone were waiting in line to get on the buss and helicopters started ******** SEALS all over the quad. I think I'm going to go watch that scene again now.
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#235 to #9 - anon id: de537c60
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This comment made my day.
#73 to #9 - kamicerotres
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At first i read it as sand *******
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/k/omrade?
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I honestly don't care either way. **** sucked, but humor heals. If it's funny, I'll laugh. If it's stupid and asinine, I'll go to the next picture
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#63 - lightelmo
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Here's one.
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well made, however the date is all wrong
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That plane wouldn't make a dent in Orthanc
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nice thumbnail bro
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"It's a bird!"
"It's a plane!"
"oh ****! It IS a plane!!!!"