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User avatar #181 - hideyowives
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(05/23/2013) [-]
so......does the internet not like the new xbox because of the dumb name and how big it is?
gee and i thought i could be petty
User avatar #200 to #181 - norboro
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ffs its not even big! its only slightly bigger than xbox slim, and almost exactly the same size as ps3. just certain pictures of it make it seem way bigger than it is
User avatar #191 to #181 - indecisivejew
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No. They hate it because it has no games yet, its always online for all intents and purposes, it focuses on a bunch of things that TVs, PCs, and Phones all do better and quicker, it charges people for putting in borrowed or pre-owned games, and it requires the kinect that no one loves to function. I think there are some pretty valid complaints this time.
User avatar #276 to #191 - legaleliminator
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They showed a **** ton more than Sony did, and there were a few games they showed us. Forza 5, COD Ghosts (I know that it's not just for Xbox but they said that it would come out for Xbox first) and a new game called Quantum Break. All of which, if i might add, look pretty damn impressive when compared to current gen consoles and even PC to an extent.
User avatar #278 to #276 - indecisivejew
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And Sony showed The Witcher, Whore of the Orient, Grand Turizmo 6, Knack, inFamous Second Son, Destiny, Driveclub, Diablo III, Watchdogs, The Witness, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Beyond Good and Evil 2, and Thief. And a good portion of those had actual gameplay shown, while Microsoft showed literally no gamplay for anything. I fail to see how Microsoft showed a "*******" more, unless you are only counting things that I am already paying a cable company and phone company to provide.
User avatar #289 to #278 - legaleliminator
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I probably should've been clearer when writing that. Microsoft has shown us: the console itself, the new controller, the new kinect, many different functions, they vaguely told us what some of the hardware is, they showed us what it is capable for the moment. On top of showing us physical things, they said that there was going to be a massive upgrade the the multi-player servers, 8 new exclusives and lots of Windows 8 intergration (which not many people care about). Sure, Sony showed off lots of games, and talked about the tings that wer going to happen, but Microsoft has set inconcret a great deal many things and showed those things to the masses.
#240 to #191 - anon
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IT WAS JUST ******* ANNOUNCED! The games will be shown at E3. SONY HASN'T ANNOUNCED MANY GAMES FOR THE PS4 EITHER. god damn it. It doesn't focus on those things, it includes. That is like saying that the 360 focused on movies and music just because it had netflix and other media apps. Get the **** out of the gutter. Always online? Do people not have internet? I doubt it will affect ANYONE that can actually afford it. Face it, people are just trying to find reasons to hate it.
User avatar #247 to #240 - indecisivejew
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Or maybe people have different opinions than you. Yeah, it was just announced, but it was a ****** announcement. Sony's appealed to gamers much more than Microsoft's did. Based on the information that MS has given me, I don't like it. That doesn't mean it can't change, but what is it offering that Sony isn't?

And what am I supposed to do, praise it for the games it hasn't shown a second of gameplay for? Give me a break. If it has games at E3, we will talk about it then. When we are talking about what we know now, we talk bout the lack of games, and the features that do nothing to promote gaming. How is it surprising that people are having a negative reaction?
#269 to #247 - anon
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And what has Sony announced that Microsoft can't already give me? They are barely including features that the 360 has had for a while. See, I can use that stupid ******* argument too.
User avatar #277 to #269 - indecisivejew
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How about video games? Those seem pretty important to a video game console. If they are going to have 15 at E3, that's fine and dandy, but from what we've seen, PS4 has 6 exclusives shown with a lot of gameplay and a few limited time exclusives on top of the multiplats that were shown running on PS4, while Microsoft has 2 exclusives and zero gameplay for any games.
User avatar #285 to #277 - indecisivejew
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Wow, arguing with someone who doesn't bother to log in and thumbs himslef up and me down every single post sure is fun.
User avatar #194 to #191 - hideyowives
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cept a lot of that stuff is optional
the kinect can be ignored if you dont like it
you think it has no games......
remember how every game announced in the last few months has said "and other next gen consoles"
i wonder who that is talking about
and it charges you for preowned games when you put them in your xbox
its a way of making it where you dont just give your game to your friend and have him play it
and the entire concept of buying preowned games takes money from the developers
its why i alwasy buy new and if you actually feel like giving money to devolopers
you should as well
since games stop and other stores that do that make companies lose money
i personally dont mind anything about the xbox one
well...besides the silly name and the size
but those are nit picks
User avatar #203 to #194 - vacillantfall
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you shouldnt have ot pay a fee after buying the game if its used... thats absurd... thats like paying for food before you bought it and paying for it again after puking it up...
User avatar #211 to #203 - hideyowives
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but you arnt paying for the food
you are paying for the food that has already been eaten and **** out and sold to game stop
and then eating it and wondering why people are looking at you funny
User avatar #201 to #194 - indecisivejew
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And when I said "no games", I meant no games shown at the conference, which is all we had to go on. And yeah, there will be multiplatform games on it, but so what? Why would I get a console that has no good exclusives, when I could get a WiiU or PS4, which have already confirmed tons of exclusives? Multiplats are a given for any console, and seeing as how the PS4 has better and more developer friendly specs, there is no reason to get an XBone for games as of now.
User avatar #199 to #194 - indecisivejew
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I'm sorry, but I hate the perception that Pre-owned games take away money from the developers. That's like thinking that pirating shows and movies is taking money out of the hands of the crew of the movie.Developers are getting payed for making the games they make by the puclisher. The publishers are the ones losing money from pre owned sales, and pre owned sales does not in any way effect the pay that developers receive from the publishers. And overall, preowned sales are good for business. Letting people trade in old games allow them to buy games they wouldn't ordinarily be able to afford. Plus, how often do you hear that Blockbuster killed the movie industry, or that Barns and Nobles killed the book industry? Its a ridiculous notion, and forcing people to pay because they want to take a game to a friends house is absolutely despicable.

Remember those online passes that everyone hates? On XBone, they are getting rid of them by applying the same thing to every disk, even all single player ones.
User avatar #208 to #199 - hideyowives
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okay but if the publishers dont get money from game sales guess who gets less money for development
and pirating works where if you like something you pirate you should buy it anyway
if you like something, have the money for something and still chose not to buy it
you arnt a pirate you are a thief
if you like something but dont have the money for it than you cant buy it
the people arnt losing any money
if you have the money but dont like it, you wouldnt buy it anyway, no money lost
and if next season every single person torrented game of thrones they wouldnt make a season after that
if you buy a preowned game at game stop teh developers dont get a single cent
not one
it all goes to game stop, if there was a way to buy used games and support games making and developers , id be all over that, but right now their isnt
so if you consider yourself a gamer in my mind you should be willing to offer a bit more money to support the people behind your hobby
now think about it
less money for the publishers
how would they still give the same amount of money to the game developers
and its not like any major games publishers and makers havent gone under recently from this ****
oh wait....they have
and block buster bought those movies themselves and rented them to you
so they still paid the makers
as did barnes and nobles
and just bring your machine if you want to play at a friends house , its not that hard
stop bitching and just learn that in the modern day enviroment of gaming , not everythign is perfect and a lot could be improved, but complaining and being idiots abou tit only makes things worse on all sides
i love how people will support thing that hurt games making like pre-orders
but things that will stop a industry collapse are regarded as "meaner than satan"
User avatar #218 to #208 - indecisivejew
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You really have a simplistic view of business works. Pre-owned sales are not hurting anyone. I talk with game developers a lot; I'm going into game animation. Preowned games only barely hurt Publishers, and publishers are full of money. That's why they exist. And if pre owned sales went away completely today, what do you think the publishers would do with the extra money? Just increase the salaries of developers all around? No. That's ridiculous. They would just keep it in their corporate vault, and maybe the higher ups would get a bigger bonus that year.

The developers would stay the same, the entirety of GameStop and its thousands upon thousands of employees would be out of a job, and the consumer would have no way of sharing games and many would be unable to buy as many new games.

Also, Bluckbuster bought people's movies and sold them used, as well as renting them to people. Barns and Nobles do the same thing. Preowned sales are not a new thing, and they are certainly not a bad thing.

User avatar #228 to #218 - hideyowives
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oh it only barely hurts a buisness that many of the people are closing there doors, thats all

and you mention block buster , but that company did so well didnt it
and thats a rather small area of barnes and nobles as well, but you have a point
but my point still stand about all of the things you mentions
and pre orders ar emost certainly bad

removes the zero's , if you wont listen to me than listen to someone who does games for a living, not like he knows what he is talking about or anything
User avatar #238 to #228 - indecisivejew
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Name one business that has closed its doors solely due to Pre orders.

And, no, I'm not going to watch your TotalBuscuit video. That video, which I've already seen, is only tangentially related, and does nothing to further your point.
User avatar #248 to #238 - hideyowives
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actually , its the exact topic, if you are wrong just admit it
or at least offer a rebuttal if you think you are still correct
not jsut refuse to look at evidence that opposes your opinion
you come off looking republican( a joke)
and no company closes for exactly one reason
or at least not giant game makers
they go down for multitudes of reasons
i can see that there is no hope for a intelligent discussion
have a nice day and peace
User avatar #257 to #248 - indecisivejew
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You said in the last post "oh it only barely hurts a business that many of the people are closing there doors, thats all". So I'm simply asking you to tell me the business you are talking about, because according to you its a major problem, but I'm not seeing it.

And if you were paying attention, you would have seen that I said I had already watched the video. I am subscribed to TotalBuiscut on Youtube. Just liking a video of someone who talks about video games on Youtube does not further your points. Making your own and using evidence and examples is usually how you do that.

#251 to #248 - hideyowives
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