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hasinvadedyou (01/11/2016) [-] 
Citation needed, im not arguing that it isnt true but just listing headlines isnt ****
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thegundanhero (01/12/2016) [-] thats not how burden of proof works you ignoramus.
Your mom is a giant whore who takes dicks on a regular basis from dirty men in an ally and her only compensation is a beard made of sperm. Now its your job to prove me wrong
Your mom is a giant whore who takes dicks on a regular basis from dirty men in an ally and her only compensation is a beard made of sperm. Now its your job to prove me wrong
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oxidoferroso (01/12/2016) [-] Ooooh, look at you, you are so clever using logical fallacies!
He's looking for source on those articles and it's as easy as typing the headlines into your searcher of choice
I can't prove to you that my mom is a saint, but the ****** who made the original comment can easily prove to himself that the post is correct, don't overcomplicate this because you saw one post on Leddit about how to win Internet discussions, you ignominious retard
He's looking for source on those articles and it's as easy as typing the headlines into your searcher of choice
I can't prove to you that my mom is a saint, but the ****** who made the original comment can easily prove to himself that the post is correct, don't overcomplicate this because you saw one post on Leddit about how to win Internet discussions, you ignominious retard
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thegundanhero (01/13/2016) [-] are you autistic? >>#99, did most of the leg work OP should have done "google it" isnt a way to sway people. Its like progressives who say "Educate yourself then talk to me" when they mean " dont come back and talk to me until you agree with me". Before you think its unrelated they are both claiming there is "evidence" of something and its your job to find it, which it isnt.
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thegundanhero (01/12/2016) [-] thats not how burden of proof works you ignoramus.
Your mom is a giant whore who takes dicks on a regular basis from dirty men in an ally and her only compensation is a beard made of sperm. Now its your job to prove me wrong
Your mom is a giant whore who takes dicks on a regular basis from dirty men in an ally and her only compensation is a beard made of sperm. Now its your job to prove me wrong
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bluerangermartin (01/12/2016) [-] Who are you calling an ignoramus you goofy cunt. My point is the poster could have googled any of these titles and found it herself instead of having some stranger do all that work for her. Think for yourself you dopey goon
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guardianatreyusux (01/12/2016) [-]
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
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guardianatreyusux (01/12/2016) [-]
gotta breath with my mouse when im nose deep in my moms stank puss
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anon (01/12/2016) [-]
I was about to post "citations needed" because some of those just looked like someone wrote a sentence in word and took a screen cap. It's not that I think women don't lie about rape, its just that if you're going to go out of your way and post all that **** , cite it so that your claim looks more legitimate. Saying "Google it" doesn't cut it, that's not how it works.
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anon (01/12/2016) [-]
You could have literally googled any of the headlines to get sources.
I understand a need due process when it comes to publishing anything that is attempting to prove a point, but for **** sake this is FJ and you have a website that can literally find you anything you want.
I understand a need due process when it comes to publishing anything that is attempting to prove a point, but for **** sake this is FJ and you have a website that can literally find you anything you want.
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timmywankenobi ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] wait need citations to believe women are human like everyone else and tell lies ?
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hasinvadedyou (01/11/2016) [-] yes, because unlike the feminist im rooted in fact based arguments. I'm not saying women dont lie, but i would get more pleasure from the situation knowing all of these are true and not just sensationalized headlines.
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rainbowblast ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-]
I mean if you really care to find out you could put in the exact wording of each headline into google, it should spit the articles back at you. I know "burden of proof" would fall on OP here but i don't think OP feels like proving it.
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hasinvadedyou (01/11/2016) [-] OP is admin so he post something to get people talking 20x a day then doesnt follow up on it. I dont expect him to post proof i just want people to get in the habit of questioning claims instead of just jumping behind them. Thats how you get radicals who cant be swayed by logic or reasoning.
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ogdonaldangel (01/11/2016) [-] **ogdonaldangel used "*roll picture*"**
**ogdonaldangel rolled image** women lie all the time we dont need proof that they lie we need to start avoiding them because all women are now corrupted by feminism and everyone of them is just a rape claim waiting to happen.
**ogdonaldangel rolled image** women lie all the time we dont need proof that they lie we need to start avoiding them because all women are now corrupted by feminism and everyone of them is just a rape claim waiting to happen.
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turbanmasher ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-]
Not to mention you know this little thing our law system is based on "Innocent until proven guilty"
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
>2016
>believes "innocent until proven guilty" actually exist beyond the courtroom
Please go tell false rape claim victims about "innocent until proven guilty"
www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11912748/Guilty-until-proven-innocent-life-after-a-false-rape-accusation.html theres numerous examples of people who have their lives DESTROYED as soon some stupid bitch crys rape. People STILL believe mattress girl and years later she is STILL ******* the guy over, newsweek planned to do an article from his point of view last month. last month and she had her lawyer send them a message saying if she felt anything he said was wrong she would sue them and intimidated them into not doing it. Idealism isnt how the world works,
>believes "innocent until proven guilty" actually exist beyond the courtroom
Please go tell false rape claim victims about "innocent until proven guilty"
www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11912748/Guilty-until-proven-innocent-life-after-a-false-rape-accusation.html theres numerous examples of people who have their lives DESTROYED as soon some stupid bitch crys rape. People STILL believe mattress girl and years later she is STILL ******* the guy over, newsweek planned to do an article from his point of view last month. last month and she had her lawyer send them a message saying if she felt anything he said was wrong she would sue them and intimidated them into not doing it. Idealism isnt how the world works,
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turbanmasher ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-]
And that's why people who lie about serious crimes need serious punishment. If it can be proven they are lying for any reason they need jail time. It's not that the system is broken it's that some people take advantage. That's why I need #meninism #YesAllMean
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anon (01/12/2016) [-]
Once you start grouping an entire gender together and making a statement that goes for every single one of them, you sound like a feminazi.
I'm a 20 year old woman, and although I will not claim to have never lied in my life, I will however say that I have never once lied or made a false rape accusation.
**** like what's shown in the content is what made me not report when I was actually "raped".
I say "raped" because although I did consent, I was only 14 years old and a 19-20 year old had sex with me. By the time I realized what happened was wrong, aka when I grew up some, it wasn't too late to file charges, as there was still evidence, but I was still young and too afraid of being calling a liar, a whore, having people tell me I consented so it wasn't rape, etc.
Now that I'm the same age he was when he had sex with me, it makes me want to end my life. That would be like me having sex with a 14 year old, when I won't even hug a 17 year old friend of mine.
My point is, you can't always just judge an assume that everyone is the same, whether it be all women, or all men. That's where the feminists have it wrong, and where you have it wrong as well.
Even after all the **** I've been through, and having never met a really decent guy (romantically or otherwise), I still refuse to judge an entire gender based on my own experiences, every single human being is different, has a different story to tell, and not everyone is a piece of **** just because most of them are.
Something to think about when you drink out of your "female tears" coffee mug, and vice versa.
I think there's an even number of ****** females as there are ****** males.
We should all fight for true equality and not exclude the other gender.
I'm a 20 year old woman, and although I will not claim to have never lied in my life, I will however say that I have never once lied or made a false rape accusation.
**** like what's shown in the content is what made me not report when I was actually "raped".
I say "raped" because although I did consent, I was only 14 years old and a 19-20 year old had sex with me. By the time I realized what happened was wrong, aka when I grew up some, it wasn't too late to file charges, as there was still evidence, but I was still young and too afraid of being calling a liar, a whore, having people tell me I consented so it wasn't rape, etc.
Now that I'm the same age he was when he had sex with me, it makes me want to end my life. That would be like me having sex with a 14 year old, when I won't even hug a 17 year old friend of mine.
My point is, you can't always just judge an assume that everyone is the same, whether it be all women, or all men. That's where the feminists have it wrong, and where you have it wrong as well.
Even after all the **** I've been through, and having never met a really decent guy (romantically or otherwise), I still refuse to judge an entire gender based on my own experiences, every single human being is different, has a different story to tell, and not everyone is a piece of **** just because most of them are.
Something to think about when you drink out of your "female tears" coffee mug, and vice versa.
I think there's an even number of ****** females as there are ****** males.
We should all fight for true equality and not exclude the other gender.
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timmywankenobi ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] "female tears" coffee mug" - what is this even ? I've only ever seen women with male tears mugs.
a 14 year old and a 19 year old is statutory rape in most places, but if the 19 year old is female she'll get community service not prison. Such equality .
a 14 year old and a 19 year old is statutory rape in most places, but if the 19 year old is female she'll get community service not prison. Such equality .
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deathstare (01/12/2016) [-] Women that tell those kinds of lies are inhuman. Claiming rape because you failed your exams?
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brawlerboi (01/12/2016) [-] Incoming wall of text:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10494643/Schoolboy-feared-to-have-killed-himself-after-being-falsely-branded-a-rapist-on-Facebook.html
www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Plymouth-landlord-set-accused-rape-inquest-hears/story-20878052-detail/story.html
www.ibtimes.co.uk/false-rape-claim-drove-rugby-player-luke-king-suicide-1472457
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11905639/Teenager-falsely-accused-of-rape-commits-suicide.html
www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2010/mar/31/probe-finds-no-criminal-evidence-against-dalton-of/11508/
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/innocent-graham-smith-commits-suicide-2786231
www.mgtow.com/video/false-rape-thwarted-by-police-camera/
www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-33054822
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2671095/What-did-utterly-wicked-Judge-slams-lying-law-graduate-claimed-boyfriend-raped-excuse-failing-exams-jailed-three-half-years.html
www.falserape.net/womanpleadsguilty.htm
patch.com/pennsylvania/peters/venetia-girl-charged-with-lying-about-rape
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/ann-summers-saleswoman-admits-false-3042120
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-faces-jail-after-admitting-5640888
lancasteronline.com/news/local/woman-admits-she-wasn-t-raped-saturday-on-mu-campus/article_29f316be-57a3-11e4-8f3c-001a4bcf6878.html
www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-30132260
www.spin.com/2014/07/conor-obersts-name-cleared-rape-accuser-admits-she-lied/
www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-33054822
laist.com/2015/01/23/riverside_community_college_rapist.php
www.washingtonexaminer.com/woman-claims-she-was-sexually-assaulted-admits-it-didnt-happen/article/2555018
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9894588/Compulsive-liar-jailed-after-11-false-rape-claims-in-decade.html
www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news/local/latest-news/thetford-woman-plagued-police-with-false-allegations-court-hears-1-6322587
nypost.com/2009/09/18/twisted-motive-behind-rape-story/
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www.heart.co.uk/kent/news/local/margate-woman-admits-false-rape-claim/
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2188112/Mother-jailed-making-TWO-false-rape-claims-men-dating-didnt-liaison.html
www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-25624620
www.northern-times.co.uk/News/Alness-woman-jailed-for-false-rape-allegation-22102013.htm
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3013207/Woman-jailed-falsely-accusing-two-soldiers-trying-rape-ashamed-drunken-cocaine-fuelled-threesome.html
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10494643/Schoolboy-feared-to-have-killed-himself-after-being-falsely-branded-a-rapist-on-Facebook.html
www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Plymouth-landlord-set-accused-rape-inquest-hears/story-20878052-detail/story.html
www.ibtimes.co.uk/false-rape-claim-drove-rugby-player-luke-king-suicide-1472457
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11905639/Teenager-falsely-accused-of-rape-commits-suicide.html
www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2010/mar/31/probe-finds-no-criminal-evidence-against-dalton-of/11508/
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/innocent-graham-smith-commits-suicide-2786231
www.mgtow.com/video/false-rape-thwarted-by-police-camera/
www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-33054822
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2671095/What-did-utterly-wicked-Judge-slams-lying-law-graduate-claimed-boyfriend-raped-excuse-failing-exams-jailed-three-half-years.html
www.falserape.net/womanpleadsguilty.htm
patch.com/pennsylvania/peters/venetia-girl-charged-with-lying-about-rape
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/ann-summers-saleswoman-admits-false-3042120
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-faces-jail-after-admitting-5640888
lancasteronline.com/news/local/woman-admits-she-wasn-t-raped-saturday-on-mu-campus/article_29f316be-57a3-11e4-8f3c-001a4bcf6878.html
www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-30132260
www.spin.com/2014/07/conor-obersts-name-cleared-rape-accuser-admits-she-lied/
www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-33054822
laist.com/2015/01/23/riverside_community_college_rapist.php
www.washingtonexaminer.com/woman-claims-she-was-sexually-assaulted-admits-it-didnt-happen/article/2555018
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9894588/Compulsive-liar-jailed-after-11-false-rape-claims-in-decade.html
www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news/local/latest-news/thetford-woman-plagued-police-with-false-allegations-court-hears-1-6322587
nypost.com/2009/09/18/twisted-motive-behind-rape-story/
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www.heart.co.uk/kent/news/local/margate-woman-admits-false-rape-claim/
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2188112/Mother-jailed-making-TWO-false-rape-claims-men-dating-didnt-liaison.html
www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-25624620
www.northern-times.co.uk/News/Alness-woman-jailed-for-false-rape-allegation-22102013.htm
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3013207/Woman-jailed-falsely-accusing-two-soldiers-trying-rape-ashamed-drunken-cocaine-fuelled-threesome.html
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captainprincess (01/11/2016) [-] There is indeed a rape culture, we just didnt realize which way it faces
It exists as a part of the larger problem, the " **** men and boys they dont matter " culture
It exists as a part of the larger problem, the " **** men and boys they dont matter " culture
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crlmsonhazard (01/11/2016) [-] Nah, I wish I could take credit. This trolling is actually good
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innocentbabies (01/12/2016) [-]
203, and the post will be on the front page for another 8 hours.
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noburt ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-]
It has changed a lot. This is from me only being here for about 1.5 years.
It used to be filled with people that were half-way to chan tards but not yet. Now it is filled with retards from 9fag and ***** .
Click the eye under this if you don't know what it is.
How I'm saying FJ used to be is the best way I can explain it, I know it sounds stupid.
It used to be filled with people that were half-way to chan tards but not yet. Now it is filled with retards from 9fag and ***** .
Click the eye under this if you don't know what it is.
How I'm saying FJ used to be is the best way I can explain it, I know it sounds stupid.
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captainprincess (01/12/2016) [-] Get some'a that Formal Glory
Stylin' everywhere like a real dashing chap
Stylin' everywhere like a real dashing chap
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anon (01/12/2016) [-] "Equality" these days is essentially women wanting to have their cake and eat it too. Not all mind you, since its just like any other radical organization. Only the loudest(usually the stupidest too) are heard and making it on media sites/shows. My favorite part is then after they ask where all the good men have gone, after they suffer their own kind too much, or assholes just looking for some quick ass. Good men don't like ****** women. Good women also don't like ****** men. But everyone needs to stop thinking they are good, and really look at themselves before judging others. There is your equality.
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thegundanhero (01/11/2016) [-] you are a girl, therefore dumb! haha now give me thumbs inb4 "udiddnt tell me which xD"
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anon (01/12/2016) [-]
you really dont believe isis is for equality? god im tired of these redneck hillbillies who are upset that we took their flags away looking for something to be upset with. ISIS is doing more for equality than the white male and thats just a fact. It's time for PoC and women and inherit the earth its just a matter of time until you are wiped clean off.
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racistwaffle (01/12/2016) [-] men being raped has nothing to do with op's post, nor the comment you replied to.
0/10 bait.
try again.
0/10 bait.
try again.
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bioconstriculative (01/12/2016) [-]
>Thinking replying as an anon doesnt make you look like a wimp.
Log in and say that you ******* coward.
Log in and say that you ******* coward.
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billyblooper ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] Male tears would taste horrible. Like all salty and **** .
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billyblooper ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] I was thinking of actual tears from the eyes, but yes, semen is also salty so I am told.
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captainprincess (01/12/2016) [-] depending on what he ate
it has potential to be fruity or sweet
it has potential to be fruity or sweet
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infinitereaper (01/11/2016) [-] Men are actually raped more than women, largely in prison. People laugh at this and treat it as a joke. And it's not even equal, because women have been found to get lighter sentences, and be imprisoned far less often. This is just one reason I can't stand feminists and wish I could send them to the middle east.
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WutsAtroll (01/11/2016) [-] Rape culture is a term that was coined by feminists in the United States in the 1970's. It was designed to show the ways in which society blamed victims of sexual assault and normalized male sexual violence.
So if there was a Western country, like Germany for example, where authorities blamed victims of sexual assault by saying they should have been an arm length away from the Muslim horde, and should have not dressed that way, it could be a sign of a rape culture. And if said Muslim horde was for the most part unpunished and not demonized for committing mass sexual assault because they were expected to do so, it would be a sign of a rape culture.
But of course Western feminists would never say that. Rape culture to them just means a white guy making a joke or something
So if there was a Western country, like Germany for example, where authorities blamed victims of sexual assault by saying they should have been an arm length away from the Muslim horde, and should have not dressed that way, it could be a sign of a rape culture. And if said Muslim horde was for the most part unpunished and not demonized for committing mass sexual assault because they were expected to do so, it would be a sign of a rape culture.
But of course Western feminists would never say that. Rape culture to them just means a white guy making a joke or something
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WutsAtroll (01/12/2016) [-] Obsessed with what? If you don't see a problem with people in positions of power siding with the group that just committed mass sexual assault over the victims then you are frankly an idiot and your apathy is not in any way a benefit. It's not helpful to you or to society so you might as well lose the attitude and take your head out of the sand
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anon (01/12/2016) [-]
We are concerned with the actual state of affairs of the world, as nowadays you can't really guess if the girl you are dating is a psychotic liar and will **** your life over, or not.
And that is not normal. To be SO legally defensless just because you were born a man.
And that is not normal. To be SO legally defensless just because you were born a man.
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masterboll (01/12/2016) [-] muslim implies they are acting on islamic teachings. islamic teachings forbids this kind of sexual assault.
the entire point of referring to them as a "Muslim horde" is to demonise muslims, not the actual rapists.
the entire point of referring to them as a "Muslim horde" is to demonise muslims, not the actual rapists.
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WutsAtroll (01/12/2016) [-] no, Muslim implies that the people identify as Muslim. The Quran is heavily up for interpretation and while there are sections that forbid rape, there are also sections that encourage men to treat women as objects and use them as sex slaves or whatever. This leads to them thinking acts like this are permissible under Islam. They are also taught that women have no value
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html
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masterboll (01/12/2016) [-] >Muslim implies that the people identify as Muslim.
actually referring to them as muslims is an attempt to promote islamophobic attitudes towards muslims. if they identified as German, the said islamophobes would do everything in their power to disassociate the word "rapist" with German.
>there are also sections that encourage men to treat women as objects and use them as sex slaves or whatever
assuming youre not spewing out the misleading islamophobic propaganda crap that i suspect you are, can you give me an example of something which encourages muslim men to sexually asssault women in the way the rapists youre referring to have done?
>This leads to them thinking acts like this are permissible under Islam. They are also taught that women have no value.
no, theyre raping women because THEY believe women have no value. this kind of attitude is common even among non-muslim rapists, yet desperate attempts to isolate this kind of attitude as a "muslim" attitude is still being made by our internet propagandists
>dailymail
are you new to the world or something?
actually referring to them as muslims is an attempt to promote islamophobic attitudes towards muslims. if they identified as German, the said islamophobes would do everything in their power to disassociate the word "rapist" with German.
>there are also sections that encourage men to treat women as objects and use them as sex slaves or whatever
assuming youre not spewing out the misleading islamophobic propaganda crap that i suspect you are, can you give me an example of something which encourages muslim men to sexually asssault women in the way the rapists youre referring to have done?
>This leads to them thinking acts like this are permissible under Islam. They are also taught that women have no value.
no, theyre raping women because THEY believe women have no value. this kind of attitude is common even among non-muslim rapists, yet desperate attempts to isolate this kind of attitude as a "muslim" attitude is still being made by our internet propagandists
>dailymail
are you new to the world or something?
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WutsAtroll (01/12/2016) [-] 1) Don't care. Until Muslims actually perform serious introspection into their religion as to why it creates so many people like this, they deserve to have the bad people lumped in with them
2) Isn't this enough of an example? It's Muslim men who believe in the quran who committed this act. Now you can prove the quran doesn't teach that women are less valuable than men, and that men aren't encouraged to have sex with as many women as possible
3) They believe women have no value because that's what they are taught. I'm not talking about other rapists. You can't just say hey look over at these other rapists and forget about Muslim rapists. It doesn't work that way. Focus on the individuals at hand.
4) yeah it was the first source i found. the main stream media doesn't like reporting on that sort of thing
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2) Isn't this enough of an example? It's Muslim men who believe in the quran who committed this act. Now you can prove the quran doesn't teach that women are less valuable than men, and that men aren't encouraged to have sex with as many women as possible
3) They believe women have no value because that's what they are taught. I'm not talking about other rapists. You can't just say hey look over at these other rapists and forget about Muslim rapists. It doesn't work that way. Focus on the individuals at hand.
4) yeah it was the first source i found. the main stream media doesn't like reporting on that sort of thing
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masterboll (01/12/2016) [-] 1) islam isnt the single cause of people like this, if anything it has more to do with how these people were raised. rapists dont strike me as the type of people who thoroughly look for loopholes in Quranic verses. nobody good deserves to have bad people lumped with them. this is purely the mindset of a person who hates muslims regardless of whether they are good or bad.
2) if i remember correctly, some members of the "Muslim horde" in Germany was groping women. there is literally nothing in the Quran to suggest that this kind of behaviour is permissible in any circumstances. also, men arent encouraged to have sex with as many women as possible. sex outside of marriage is not only forbidden, men are limited to 4 wives because wars, widows and some men used to have more than that. you might want to be careful with where you get this information about muslim men and sex from. i can almost guarantee that its from a dodgy author.
3) many muslim cultures treat women of equal value as men and some even value women more than men. to simply suggest that all muslim men are taught to treat women with no value is just ******** to say the least. this kind of generalisation can only come from someone who doesnt interact with muslims of different culture much or sits in front of a computer watching propaganda videos about cherry picked oppressive cultures all day.
4) if anything, with islamophobia spreading like wildfire across the gullible and stupid, there is a lot of money to be made from headlines like these.
islamophobia is one hell of a drug when it doesnt affect you, eh?
2) if i remember correctly, some members of the "Muslim horde" in Germany was groping women. there is literally nothing in the Quran to suggest that this kind of behaviour is permissible in any circumstances. also, men arent encouraged to have sex with as many women as possible. sex outside of marriage is not only forbidden, men are limited to 4 wives because wars, widows and some men used to have more than that. you might want to be careful with where you get this information about muslim men and sex from. i can almost guarantee that its from a dodgy author.
3) many muslim cultures treat women of equal value as men and some even value women more than men. to simply suggest that all muslim men are taught to treat women with no value is just ******** to say the least. this kind of generalisation can only come from someone who doesnt interact with muslims of different culture much or sits in front of a computer watching propaganda videos about cherry picked oppressive cultures all day.
4) if anything, with islamophobia spreading like wildfire across the gullible and stupid, there is a lot of money to be made from headlines like these.
islamophobia is one hell of a drug when it doesnt affect you, eh?
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WutsAtroll (01/12/2016) [-] 1) I never said Islam is the cause, I just said the perpetrators believe in Islam. Which they do. Why do you also automatically assume a Muslim who just stands there after an incident trying to protect the good name of Islam is a good person?
2) Fair enough actually, I know that the quran does forbid rape and does look down upon sex outside of marriage
3) I have read sections of the quran that mention that a woman is worth less than that of a man. Just in case it was cherry picked, can you provide evidence to the contrary?
4) It is policy of the German government to keep crimes committed by Muslim immigrants secret from the public to prevent a rising right wing movement from gaining further ground
Honestly as bad as the incident is, my original comment was more critical of the response from the German government than anything. Blaming the victims rather than the perpetrator is really unacceptable
2) Fair enough actually, I know that the quran does forbid rape and does look down upon sex outside of marriage
3) I have read sections of the quran that mention that a woman is worth less than that of a man. Just in case it was cherry picked, can you provide evidence to the contrary?
4) It is policy of the German government to keep crimes committed by Muslim immigrants secret from the public to prevent a rising right wing movement from gaining further ground
Honestly as bad as the incident is, my original comment was more critical of the response from the German government than anything. Blaming the victims rather than the perpetrator is really unacceptable
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platinumaltaria ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] No it really doesn't, Islam is rare in that it has one rule for other muslims and another for non-believers; IE: you can do whatever you want to non-muslims.
GG tho
GG tho
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thegundanhero (01/11/2016) [-] rape culture is w/e women want it to be and it, like everyother word, can be changed to fit their needs
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WutsAtroll (01/11/2016) [-] yeah lol. The best explanation I got was when a feminist told me off for going by the definition of patriarchy because "You can't use a dictionary definition to describe an abstract concept" lmao. According to her it can't be proven or substantiated in any way, but we should just listen and believe
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lyraa (01/11/2016) [-] This is just making things worse. It is clear that some people are manipulative and act in their own interest with no considerations of other people, however discrediting rape charges because of false accusations is not ok. I live in a country in which women are basically sold, where even in western parts when women leave their husbands because of domestic violence the husbands kill their wives and the police doesn't help them because it is common knowledge that the woman belongs with her husband, for better or for worse.
This is not about genders, and I understand that there are a **** ton of morons out there that cause these issues to be discredited. But it is a known fact that these women don't speak out, and even if they do the perpetrator rarely gets convicted.
TL; DR This is not about gender, discrediting serious matters due to idiots making light of it is not ok.
This is not about genders, and I understand that there are a **** ton of morons out there that cause these issues to be discredited. But it is a known fact that these women don't speak out, and even if they do the perpetrator rarely gets convicted.
TL; DR This is not about gender, discrediting serious matters due to idiots making light of it is not ok.
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ainise (01/12/2016) [-]
I'd agree with you if not for...
False Rape Charges RUIN lives. It can ruin a career, it can ruin a family, it can ruin your credit, and it can VERY Easily drive a man to suicide. Worst of all? A false rape claim that goes through can send a main to jail for 25 years AND it's her word against his. Not an inkling of proof is required.
In every other criminal case, Motive, Opportunity and Intent are needed what the prosecution is fighting for. In a rape case, though? It's a sob story: True or not, that's what it is. No motive is necessisary. "He wanted to **** " is already implied, so that's 1 strike. Intent? Again, already implied. Opportunity? Can you 100% account for everywhere you were in the last 6 months? I can't even prove 100% where I was in the last 6 DAYS.
And then let's talk about feminists definition of rape vs the legal definition of rape. Rape's definition varies from state to state, but in most state it boils down to: Vaginal Penetration without consent. Some states include Anal, and I think..2? Include all orifices.
Meanwhile, some women think that rape can be defined by any sexual act towards an unwilling person. Any sexual act, including fantasizing about them. There are people who think you can rape someone without touching them. Lots of people even think the sheer act of LOOKING at them is sexual harassment. I don't even have words for how ******* inane that is.
While this confusion of the word exists, unless it can be proven without a shadow of a doubt, crimes like this should not end in conviction. Likewise, women who suggest they were raped, and were proven wrong without a shadow of a doubt, they should suffer the same punishment they were attempting to falsely imprison someone else for.
False Rape Charges RUIN lives. It can ruin a career, it can ruin a family, it can ruin your credit, and it can VERY Easily drive a man to suicide. Worst of all? A false rape claim that goes through can send a main to jail for 25 years AND it's her word against his. Not an inkling of proof is required.
In every other criminal case, Motive, Opportunity and Intent are needed what the prosecution is fighting for. In a rape case, though? It's a sob story: True or not, that's what it is. No motive is necessisary. "He wanted to **** " is already implied, so that's 1 strike. Intent? Again, already implied. Opportunity? Can you 100% account for everywhere you were in the last 6 months? I can't even prove 100% where I was in the last 6 DAYS.
And then let's talk about feminists definition of rape vs the legal definition of rape. Rape's definition varies from state to state, but in most state it boils down to: Vaginal Penetration without consent. Some states include Anal, and I think..2? Include all orifices.
Meanwhile, some women think that rape can be defined by any sexual act towards an unwilling person. Any sexual act, including fantasizing about them. There are people who think you can rape someone without touching them. Lots of people even think the sheer act of LOOKING at them is sexual harassment. I don't even have words for how ******* inane that is.
While this confusion of the word exists, unless it can be proven without a shadow of a doubt, crimes like this should not end in conviction. Likewise, women who suggest they were raped, and were proven wrong without a shadow of a doubt, they should suffer the same punishment they were attempting to falsely imprison someone else for.
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hasinvadedyou (01/11/2016) [-] "discrediting rape charges because of false accusations is not ok."
It is literally the definition of "ok"
If a rape claim is proven false then **** the woman with a flagpole. If you meant "because false rape claims happen that we shouldnt discredit all claims of rape" then ******* of course not rape is a serious issue and people who claim it falsely should be charged seriously. But theres women out there who want a womans word to be law and not even question if a claim is real or not, and thats goddamned retarded.
It is literally the definition of "ok"
If a rape claim is proven false then **** the woman with a flagpole. If you meant "because false rape claims happen that we shouldnt discredit all claims of rape" then ******* of course not rape is a serious issue and people who claim it falsely should be charged seriously. But theres women out there who want a womans word to be law and not even question if a claim is real or not, and thats goddamned retarded.
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bitchitroll (01/12/2016) [-] a guy in my town was accused of rape and it ran the front page of the papers and it was in the paper every day until he went to court
the woman was also suing the man on top of the rape claim
what the papers didnt say though was when it went to court she was caught lying multiple times and it was determined not only did he not rape her but she wasnt even at the party he supposedly raped her at.
now he is suing her for lost wages, defamation, and mental anguish
the woman was also suing the man on top of the rape claim
what the papers didnt say though was when it went to court she was caught lying multiple times and it was determined not only did he not rape her but she wasnt even at the party he supposedly raped her at.
now he is suing her for lost wages, defamation, and mental anguish
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hkd (01/12/2016) [-] Why can't we have a law or multiple laws by which people can't be depicted or named until proven guilty or otherwise.
I know you could argue it is anti-free-media to suggest that, but surely it's better than this.
Law people feel free to pick holes.
I know you could argue it is anti-free-media to suggest that, but surely it's better than this.
Law people feel free to pick holes.
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cattestacles (01/12/2016) [-] Except if they aren't dangerous at all, then knowing their name is completely pointless, and still damages their reputation in the community.
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sugoi (01/12/2016) [-] Not necessarily, people are named every day but the media and in turn the community, only care about murderers and rapists. See how crims busted for theft, mugging, minor assault and all that don't get put on the news and how nobody cares about them except the people related to the case?
Basically people won't care until the actual crime is released.
Basically people won't care until the actual crime is released.
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syntheticdoll ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] maybe it's anti-free-media but we're talking about basic privacy, and that a newspaper shouldn't be allowed to publish maybe-innoncents as rapists.
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thebluedream (01/12/2016) [-] I agree because in a lot of places the fact they you were even accused stays on your permanent records (here in GA at least) and sadly to a lot of people and employers that is as bad as actually doing it.
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hkd (01/12/2016) [-] And the media never flip their doings back either.
You can get accused of murder, and newspapers will report you as "Maybe a murderer" and then if you are found guilty, they go "See, we told you so!" but, even if you're acquitted they'll just not mention it, and your left with "Maybe a murderer" which isn't great either.
You can get accused of murder, and newspapers will report you as "Maybe a murderer" and then if you are found guilty, they go "See, we told you so!" but, even if you're acquitted they'll just not mention it, and your left with "Maybe a murderer" which isn't great either.
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thebluedream (01/12/2016) [-] I speak from seeing it first hands as well, a good friend of mine was accused of rape after high-school, but after he was arrested the girl confessed she was lying over a break up they had. However, he still has that accusation on public record. So, due to the public knowledge of that he lost his scholarship to GSU, having issues getting a job, and the courts are being difficult in fixing the issue. The worst part of it all is the girl more or less got off scotch free, she was put on probation and was charged with filing a false police report.
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tapeworms (01/12/2016) [-] I really hate these girls. They make people skeptical of real victims. Whenever someone talks about being sexually assaulted nowadays there's a slight doubt in my mind, wondering if they're lying or not because of women like this.
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infinitereaper (01/11/2016) [-] Have you ever noticed how women always blame everything other than themselves? Time and time again I see the same trend. They'll blame something else, blame someone else, never every take any responsibility, and it drives me insane.
They blame "beauty standards" on society or men, even though the most judgmental about looks are other women. Women hurt women about appearances and looks, jealousy, envy and competition. They'll blame their stupid decisions on men, refusing to admit they were just idiots. I see it almost every time.
The rape card is just that, a card, a ploy. A trick women can use to get an advantage in modern society. Just like child support, alimony and everything else. The truth is that women have a lot of advantages, and it's still not enough. It'll never be enough.
In a world of ACTUAL equality, women would be WORSE off than they are now.
So I hope feminists get EXACTLY what they claim to want.
They blame "beauty standards" on society or men, even though the most judgmental about looks are other women. Women hurt women about appearances and looks, jealousy, envy and competition. They'll blame their stupid decisions on men, refusing to admit they were just idiots. I see it almost every time.
The rape card is just that, a card, a ploy. A trick women can use to get an advantage in modern society. Just like child support, alimony and everything else. The truth is that women have a lot of advantages, and it's still not enough. It'll never be enough.
In a world of ACTUAL equality, women would be WORSE off than they are now.
So I hope feminists get EXACTLY what they claim to want.
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thirdjess ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] "Never believe a woman who says they've been raped, because these handful of people lied about it." You sound like a ******* asshole.
Sure, male victims don't get taken nearly as seriously as they ought to. But this is not the solution. This is the opposite of the solution. I can't believe someone would wish the kind of mental anguish involved, on anyone at all. Regardless of age, gender or race.
Sure, male victims don't get taken nearly as seriously as they ought to. But this is not the solution. This is the opposite of the solution. I can't believe someone would wish the kind of mental anguish involved, on anyone at all. Regardless of age, gender or race.
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krasnogvardiech (01/12/2016) [-] Hello again, Jessica III.
I'd say for a few exceptions it's a fitting if unlawful punishment. Exhibit A, the kind of legal vampire who sues stupid amounts of money from people and takes everything they own, just because they can. Or just because to see people suffer.
Exhibit B, the kind of person who comes into a revered person's life and destroys them from within. Spreading all sorts of **** about them and taking away all the goodness of the life they built, making all the close friends they have shy away just to avoid being associated with such a disgusting individual.
There are others. That said, though, it's still a reprehensible act, make no mistake about it.
I'd say for a few exceptions it's a fitting if unlawful punishment. Exhibit A, the kind of legal vampire who sues stupid amounts of money from people and takes everything they own, just because they can. Or just because to see people suffer.
Exhibit B, the kind of person who comes into a revered person's life and destroys them from within. Spreading all sorts of **** about them and taking away all the goodness of the life they built, making all the close friends they have shy away just to avoid being associated with such a disgusting individual.
There are others. That said, though, it's still a reprehensible act, make no mistake about it.
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thirdjess ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] It absolutely is not. It's like those who participate in blacklivesmatter actually going out of their way to harm and harass white police officers. Hurting one party does not change that the other party is getting hurt. It actually makes it worse.
What do you think the logical retaliation would be, to a post like this? Probably "look at this post a man made, we should give more attention to female rape victims"! How is that helping anyone?
What do you think the logical retaliation would be, to a post like this? Probably "look at this post a man made, we should give more attention to female rape victims"! How is that helping anyone?
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krasnogvardiech (01/12/2016) [-] It won't.
Putting that kind of punishment on anyone isn't helpful, lawful or logical. It's a way that crushes the recipient of the act in the aim of making an example out of them.
It's much the same thinking as putting to death a criminal who will just keep on killing, albeit less severe. You have to understand, the proper recipient of the sentence doesn't recognize jail-time, fees to be paid or any kind of lawful punishment as negative consequence. Hell, they'd just spread **** about the people who sentenced them and their families.
You don't get to lead a society without getting your hands dirty. Letting scum like the people I detailled in this argument go is just inviting them to destroy your people from within.
You starting to see what kind of being I am describing here?
It's a punishment to break and humiliate. Best used sparingly, for a system that calls itself good. And it's one that guarantees that the kind of people that do deserve it will think twice before doing it in future.
Putting that kind of punishment on anyone isn't helpful, lawful or logical. It's a way that crushes the recipient of the act in the aim of making an example out of them.
It's much the same thinking as putting to death a criminal who will just keep on killing, albeit less severe. You have to understand, the proper recipient of the sentence doesn't recognize jail-time, fees to be paid or any kind of lawful punishment as negative consequence. Hell, they'd just spread **** about the people who sentenced them and their families.
You don't get to lead a society without getting your hands dirty. Letting scum like the people I detailled in this argument go is just inviting them to destroy your people from within.
You starting to see what kind of being I am describing here?
It's a punishment to break and humiliate. Best used sparingly, for a system that calls itself good. And it's one that guarantees that the kind of people that do deserve it will think twice before doing it in future.
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thirdjess ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] Ok so punish the people that are found to be lying. That's perfectly acceptable. This is like cutting the dicks off all men, because the majority of rapists are male. Though, more extreme, because these lying women are not nearly a majority of female victim rape cases.
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krasnogvardiech (01/12/2016) [-] You misunderstand me. Either that, or you are deliberately taking my argument the wrong way.
It works like this: If an individual acts deliberately to destroy another's life, by slander, libel, deliberate discredition or focused harassment (such as following the people they have a restraining order against), then they get a punishment of disproportionate severity to their crime. The criminal didn't just steal a few thousand bucks' worth of stuff or beat them up in a pub brawl, that person actively, knowingly and deliberately destroyed the affected individual's credibility, life and fellowships. People's families listen, and word gets around. In extreme cases it might even get onto media, where that individual's life will be beyond the point of assistance.
Rape's just the fitting punishment for women who use their sexuality as an asset. Were they male, a fitting punishment would be sanctioning them to be used as beating-posts in prisons or the like.
This isn't fair at all. They don't deserve fairness out of me. This is my solution to the continued existence of scum like that. It's not good by any means, and ought to say something about my stance against said scum.
It works like this: If an individual acts deliberately to destroy another's life, by slander, libel, deliberate discredition or focused harassment (such as following the people they have a restraining order against), then they get a punishment of disproportionate severity to their crime. The criminal didn't just steal a few thousand bucks' worth of stuff or beat them up in a pub brawl, that person actively, knowingly and deliberately destroyed the affected individual's credibility, life and fellowships. People's families listen, and word gets around. In extreme cases it might even get onto media, where that individual's life will be beyond the point of assistance.
Rape's just the fitting punishment for women who use their sexuality as an asset. Were they male, a fitting punishment would be sanctioning them to be used as beating-posts in prisons or the like.
This isn't fair at all. They don't deserve fairness out of me. This is my solution to the continued existence of scum like that. It's not good by any means, and ought to say something about my stance against said scum.
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krasnogvardiech (01/12/2016) [-] So you're assuming my entire argument is wrong, just because you don't like the effect of my proposition?
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krasnogvardiech (01/12/2016) [-] The sexes need to be divided. Women can't be treated the same as men. Otherwise, it'd be a good idea to throw all inmates into prison and not caring to separate the gender. And you can guess what a bad idea that would be.
It's the word of law, not science by any means. Any science along that line would be horrific. Much like that one diagram sketched by a /tg/ anon about getting a room full of goblins and cats to mate and reproduce constantly, feeding on the offal and vital fluid of their inbred fellows and then crush them flat to have the blood descend to turn a power-generating contraption. Then having an arrow going off to the side detailing the power going towards 'nefarious contraptions' when in fact such a contraption would be profane in itself. Because in truth, a scientific approach to the process would involve having hundreds of female criminals raped just for the sole and singular purpose of determining what's the best method of cowing them. That would be barbaric, much like the punishment to begin with. As for unsound, uneducated... Perhaps to the former, unless it yields results. Definitely yes for the second, because it's a punishment better fitting to medieval times. Hateful? I don't see how. It's simply detailing that a horrible individual that does horrible acts gets horrible punishments.
The future effect is well known. There is a high likelihood of the ones fitting for this punishment heavily reconsidering their actions, once they know that their actions will get them raped as a criminal sentence. Naturally, heavy resistance against this from all middling factions will be found. It's an extreme proposal, after all. All that remains is to design a system that cannot be corrupted by the machinations of this kind of individual which has gotten itself into government.
Or, you know, the joke of the American judicial system can be fixed over so that it's not so damn easy to sue somebody. But this proposal is more likely to happen, with the endless sadomasochism of the extreme left.
It's the word of law, not science by any means. Any science along that line would be horrific. Much like that one diagram sketched by a /tg/ anon about getting a room full of goblins and cats to mate and reproduce constantly, feeding on the offal and vital fluid of their inbred fellows and then crush them flat to have the blood descend to turn a power-generating contraption. Then having an arrow going off to the side detailing the power going towards 'nefarious contraptions' when in fact such a contraption would be profane in itself. Because in truth, a scientific approach to the process would involve having hundreds of female criminals raped just for the sole and singular purpose of determining what's the best method of cowing them. That would be barbaric, much like the punishment to begin with. As for unsound, uneducated... Perhaps to the former, unless it yields results. Definitely yes for the second, because it's a punishment better fitting to medieval times. Hateful? I don't see how. It's simply detailing that a horrible individual that does horrible acts gets horrible punishments.
The future effect is well known. There is a high likelihood of the ones fitting for this punishment heavily reconsidering their actions, once they know that their actions will get them raped as a criminal sentence. Naturally, heavy resistance against this from all middling factions will be found. It's an extreme proposal, after all. All that remains is to design a system that cannot be corrupted by the machinations of this kind of individual which has gotten itself into government.
Or, you know, the joke of the American judicial system can be fixed over so that it's not so damn easy to sue somebody. But this proposal is more likely to happen, with the endless sadomasochism of the extreme left.
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idontgetitbh ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] i dont think i'm going to make it to next year, im in advanced stages of cancer right now
the only thing i can do now is release an album and then die two days later
the only thing i can do now is release an album and then die two days later
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idontgetitbh ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] stop using big words cause its not gonna get your point across
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Zombiefried (01/12/2016) [-] Anyone who is falsely accused of rape, should be removed from the sex offender list, if they were added. And anyone who falsely accuses rape, and the case goes to trial, should be labeled a sex offender.
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norskee (01/12/2016) [-]
That's ******* stupid.
You're saying if a pedophile who was convicted of rape, some day gets falsely accused he should be taken off and the woman put on the registry? Accusing someone falsely of rape shouldn't be a lengthy jail sentence and a hefty fine, but why be put on the sex offender registry? the accuser didn't sexually offend anyone.
You're saying if a pedophile who was convicted of rape, some day gets falsely accused he should be taken off and the woman put on the registry? Accusing someone falsely of rape shouldn't be a lengthy jail sentence and a hefty fine, but why be put on the sex offender registry? the accuser didn't sexually offend anyone.
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syntheticdoll ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] Of course not but for some reason if you're accused of rape they put you on a sex offender list and if it turns out it was false they tend to "forget" you on it.
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Zombiefried (01/13/2016) [-] I'm talking about someone that wasnt on the list before they were falsely accused. If they did in fact commit an offence in the past, and was put on the list, then yeah leave them on the list. Unless the past case was something stupid, like getting drunk and pissing on a tree. Cus that **** can land you on the sex offender list.
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MrMustacho (01/12/2016) [-] if you can believe someone is evil enough to rape someone why wouldn't you believe someone is evil enough to lie
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therealfell (01/12/2016) [-] that may look like a lot on paper
but considering the amount of people in the US alone, that's nothing. at all.
there's more people living in my (small) apartment complex, than is listed on this content.
people are wrongly accused of crimes every day. not just in terms of rape. and not just men.
it's ****** up, but it doesn't mean we should tell someone who claims they were raped, that they're lying until they can prove it.
but considering the amount of people in the US alone, that's nothing. at all.
there's more people living in my (small) apartment complex, than is listed on this content.
people are wrongly accused of crimes every day. not just in terms of rape. and not just men.
it's ****** up, but it doesn't mean we should tell someone who claims they were raped, that they're lying until they can prove it.
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anon (01/12/2016) [-]
Then what happens? Are you guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty? In many cases, the very second someone is publicly accused for rape, they may as well be guilty, because society already shames them.
There's very little stopping a girl from just pointing at a guy and saying that he raped her with some make-up and waterworks.
There's very little stopping a girl from just pointing at a guy and saying that he raped her with some make-up and waterworks.
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therealfell (01/12/2016) [-] yes, we should
but we need to not let these ******** claims by a few mentally unstable people, change how we treat rape victims. or they will be the ones killing themselves.
but we need to not let these ******** claims by a few mentally unstable people, change how we treat rape victims. or they will be the ones killing themselves.
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MrPadre (01/12/2016) [-] Obviously you investigate each claim seriously and thoroughly. But just as the way it is with any crime, you should need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it happened and that they are the party at fault. Once someone is criminalized in the media, they are as good as guilty to everyone else, regardless of actual evidence
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slayerdog ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] All joking aside, I've had several people close to me be raped, and it's honestly changed my perspective on the matter. On one hand, I agree it's ******** that tons of women make false accusations, and they get away with ruining someone's life because they regret having sex with a dude, or just use it as a way to get what they want. On the other hand, I want victims of rape to be taken extremely seriously, because that kind of thing changes a person. So I don't know, half the time I can't tell if people really do have super polarized opinions on the matter, or if everyone is extremely jaded.
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CrowbarNinja ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] I know man, far to may people circlejerking this mentality have never come into contact with rape in any way and have no way of knowing the kinds of suffering it induces and have no place in debating it until people break logic. And while i have had multiple people close to me either get raped or almost, we agree that the trauma is no excuse to ignore logic outside of therapy.
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timmywankenobi ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] According to studies 9% of women who claim they were raped are lying outright and the police can prove it . another 24.9% are very likely lying but the police can't prove it in court. so anywhere from 9-34.9% of rape claims are complete ******** . That said the majority of claims are true but that does not mean we should suspend our skepticism (listen & believe) and ignore the minority who lie. If women really want men to listen and believe women need to crack down on the ones who lie instead of just letting the courts give them a slap on the wrist and then shout excuses like " Going after lying whores will hurt real victims !! "
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arkis ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] None of that matters quite honestly, there is a reason the symbol of justice is a blind folded woman holding a scale, you are suppose to weigh evidence independent of emotions and what you perceive, sure it may let criminals get away but it is still fair, without evidence there should be no conviction. And before I people get their **** in a twist I know there are women to afraid to get proof of rape, for those that are raped and afraid I'm sorry but if you don't get proof you can not expect someone to go to jail on your word alone, if we did that it would set a precedent for tons of innocent people going to jail for things beyond rape.
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arkis ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] That kinda was part of my point, when there is no evidence one can not be sentenced regardless of the accused crime. Unfortunately that is not always how it works and people have gone to jail with little to no evidence against them, some of it is simply because the mentality around that whole man vs woman
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brobathehutt (01/12/2016) [-] Tons of people go to jail with little evidence, judges aren't exceptionally smart people most of the time.
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kurbeh (01/11/2016) [-] Hey, atleast we now got tons of rapists in Europe thanks to the immigrants.
I don't really know how that helps with anything to be honest, just wanted to point that out.
I don't really know how that helps with anything to be honest, just wanted to point that out.
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anon (01/12/2016) [-]
Would y'all like to hear a story?
When I was 13 I lied about being raped. I did it because at the time I was being abused physically (but not sexually) by my family while consistently being told by them that what happened in our home "wasn't abuse" and "no one would care." I didn't realize how big it would get in terms of police involvement because the only reason I really talked to anyone about it was because I wanted help for my depression at the time. It was probably the worst decision I've made in my life, one that I have so much regret for due to how it hurt the person I lied about so much. Due to my age even as soon as I told people I was lying they didn't want to believe me. That person was very lucky as they got out on bail and were put on house arrest and lost their job.
I think this is really an increasing trend for women to do, but at the same time I do think that sometimes there's other reasons why. I would never justify my own actions or the actions of a lot of women who have done this because it breaks a person inside to be accused of something like this. It disgusts me that I did this and even more so that people could do this with only the intention of burning someone else.
I know this is bait, but I figured I'd share something real.
When I was 13 I lied about being raped. I did it because at the time I was being abused physically (but not sexually) by my family while consistently being told by them that what happened in our home "wasn't abuse" and "no one would care." I didn't realize how big it would get in terms of police involvement because the only reason I really talked to anyone about it was because I wanted help for my depression at the time. It was probably the worst decision I've made in my life, one that I have so much regret for due to how it hurt the person I lied about so much. Due to my age even as soon as I told people I was lying they didn't want to believe me. That person was very lucky as they got out on bail and were put on house arrest and lost their job.
I think this is really an increasing trend for women to do, but at the same time I do think that sometimes there's other reasons why. I would never justify my own actions or the actions of a lot of women who have done this because it breaks a person inside to be accused of something like this. It disgusts me that I did this and even more so that people could do this with only the intention of burning someone else.
I know this is bait, but I figured I'd share something real.
