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#159
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clavatninenine (8 minutes ago) [-] 
Personally? I think gender =/= biological sex.
Yes there is only male/female biological sex (with the occasional anomaly resulting in a hermaphrodite or somebody without either genitalia) but gender as a concept is what a person identifies as. If a transgender person feels they are a man/woman even though they were born as the opposite gender, that's fine so long as they aren't letting it become a massive hindrance to their livelihood.
Now, that's not to say that "star gender", or "wolf gender", or "autism gender", or "fae gender" or any other made up gender besides man/woman/bigender/agender should be accepted, in fact you should laugh at people who do that sort of **** because they are wearing gender labels like fashion accessories in an attempt to be the most unique of snowflake.
Basically, as long as people are being reasonable, aren't being massive ******* cunts about it, and don't allow it to negatively impact their life, let the person identify as whatever the hell they want.
Yes there is only male/female biological sex (with the occasional anomaly resulting in a hermaphrodite or somebody without either genitalia) but gender as a concept is what a person identifies as. If a transgender person feels they are a man/woman even though they were born as the opposite gender, that's fine so long as they aren't letting it become a massive hindrance to their livelihood.
Now, that's not to say that "star gender", or "wolf gender", or "autism gender", or "fae gender" or any other made up gender besides man/woman/bigender/agender should be accepted, in fact you should laugh at people who do that sort of **** because they are wearing gender labels like fashion accessories in an attempt to be the most unique of snowflake.
Basically, as long as people are being reasonable, aren't being massive ******* cunts about it, and don't allow it to negatively impact their life, let the person identify as whatever the hell they want.
#153
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bibblesworth ONLINE (12 minutes ago) [-] Totally agree with op (I did read the description) but interestingly enough if you look at Thailand they operate on a 3 gender society. Just sayin'.
#143
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funnytime (15 minutes ago) [-] Why is it that if people label someone as man or woman (meaning sex) on the internet some people cry "but my gender"?
Maybe its because sex and gender have the same word "Geschlecht" in german (my native language), but if I see a naked man, being sure about his sex, it never even come to my mind thinking he might feel/identify as a woman. Even if this person does and tells me, for me, he would still be a man (identifying as a woman) and i wouldnt label him as a woman when talking about him with others.
I also dont get why some people seem to have a problem with being labeled by their sex. The whole problem about this genderfluid stuff is that every person feels different about themselves and we would need endless labels, so why not stick to what we can geneticly see on the outside - the sex? Its by far more practicable and in my opinion its a more important fact about a person than knowing he/she identifies as a turtlefoxbaby other than he/she has serious mental problems.
Maybe its because sex and gender have the same word "Geschlecht" in german (my native language), but if I see a naked man, being sure about his sex, it never even come to my mind thinking he might feel/identify as a woman. Even if this person does and tells me, for me, he would still be a man (identifying as a woman) and i wouldnt label him as a woman when talking about him with others.
I also dont get why some people seem to have a problem with being labeled by their sex. The whole problem about this genderfluid stuff is that every person feels different about themselves and we would need endless labels, so why not stick to what we can geneticly see on the outside - the sex? Its by far more practicable and in my opinion its a more important fact about a person than knowing he/she identifies as a turtlefoxbaby other than he/she has serious mental problems.
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limberlarry (19 minutes ago) [-]
Only the middle one on the left is incorrect. You are still male if you get your balls chopped off, you are still female if you a born without an external vagina. At least 1 y chromosome = male, no y chromosome = female
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supersixfourr ONLINE (37 minutes ago) [-] Actually this is what I was taught in Sociology 101
Sex: Biological identification based on the gentiles that we recieve at birth
Gender: How we identify ourselves
Dont believe me? That's your opinion and I respect it.
It wasnt until I read the description that I realized that OP meant for this to be Sex
Sex: Biological identification based on the gentiles that we recieve at birth
Gender: How we identify ourselves
Dont believe me? That's your opinion and I respect it.
It wasnt until I read the description that I realized that OP meant for this to be Sex
#115
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megaton ONLINE (41 minutes ago) [-] the only non male female gender i will accept is hermaphrodite since thats an actual thing. but so uncomon that i doubt that 90% of the people on tumblr are actually that and are rightfully confused.
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greyhoundfd (47 minutes ago) [-] Gender, as a concrete concept, doesn't really exist and needs to be brought out of the public realm. "Masculine" and "Feminine" as concrete ranges are really incredibly inaccurate. Most men do not do purely masculine things, and most women do not do purely feminine things. Everybody has some mix and some percentage, and even the manliest man will usually admit to occasionally indulging in a few feminine behaviors. In this sense, everybody is truly on a gender "range", and defining gender in a binary sense is idiotic. AT THE SAME TIME: it also means that creating infinite notches along the curve is equally idiotic. It doesn't matter how many sides you add to a shape, it will never be a circle because a circle has no sides. If you ask "What side of a circle is xyz on?", that doesn't mean anything, and as such using sides to define a circle will simply not work. In the same way, the concept of concrete genders should be abolished. If you're a man and you like toe-nail polish, that doesn't make you a woman, and to claim such is actually extremely prejudiced and sexist, towards both men and women. Regardless of whether you're a guy or a girl, do whatever the hell you feel like, just don't define yourself with arbitrary terms that mean nothing and put you in a box. It's needlessly self-constricting.
#69
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adunsaveme (1 hour ago) [-] Yeah let's all post this crap here because it applies to us
It's totally not so we can circlejerk about it
It's totally not so we can circlejerk about it
#68
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anon (1 hour ago) [-]
but, what if I am born male, but identify as a transexual female lesbian, that has gone through gender change to become male.
That would make me male, women, and lesbian, without even getting off the couch.
Lesbian bars, here I come!
That would make me male, women, and lesbian, without even getting off the couch.
Lesbian bars, here I come!
#67
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zancal (1 hour ago) [-] One of my teachers in high school would always describe sex as "what's between your legs" and gender as "what's between your ears".
#62
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captainprincess ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-] I would say
There is no justification necessary to label yourself as whatever the **** you please
I label myself as an adorable trap wearing a hairy man suit with the soul of a sentient buttplug from the planet Excelsior
But the trick is
Your self identified label doesnt matter, and is completely irrelevant to your life and everyone elses life
It's purely for self amusement or whatever personal bedrock you need in your personal moments
Like a tattoo on the underside of your nutsack
It just doesnt matter
There is no justification necessary to label yourself as whatever the **** you please
I label myself as an adorable trap wearing a hairy man suit with the soul of a sentient buttplug from the planet Excelsior
But the trick is
Your self identified label doesnt matter, and is completely irrelevant to your life and everyone elses life
It's purely for self amusement or whatever personal bedrock you need in your personal moments
Like a tattoo on the underside of your nutsack
It just doesnt matter
#58
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doombunni (2 hours ago) [-] If you're a girl who identifies as a boy and vice versa then that's fine, I'll happily treat you as the gender you feel like. It's when people say their quad-gender turtlekin i-identify-as-a-toaster hurr/durr/gargle pronouns and that sex doesn't matter that it gets ridiculous. Yes sex does matter. You may identify as female and had gotten hormone treatment and possibly surgery, but you are still susceptible to male issues, such as prostate cancer, of if you're female to male and do not recognize that a heart attack in a biological woman is different than that of a man. A doctor can't treat you properly if you aren't fully truthful with them, or even remind them that you're transgendered.
#55
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mastersaturday (2 hours ago) [-] The problem is, the more I think about exceptions to the rules, the more lost I get in reaching a conclusion about what my thoughts are.
#54
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minimii (2 hours ago) [-] Sex (as defined by Merriam-Webster) :
1. Either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures
Sex (also as defined by Merriam-Webster) :
2. the sum of the structural, functional, and behavioral characteristics of organisms that are involved in reproduction marked by the union of gametes and that distinguish males and females
Gender (as defined by Merriam-Webster) :
1. the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex
2. one of the categories (masculine, feminine, and neuter) into which words (such as nouns, adjectives, and pronouns) are divided in many languages
So, the MW definition of "sex" (noun) includes both physiological and psychological identity of oneself, whereas "gender" is basically a play on the second definition of sex.
Strictly speaking, there are 2 "sexes" and another intersex. This is needed for medical purposes. So yes, there is a need for sex because a woman has a lesser chance of colon cancer than a man, and men will not get ovarian cancer because they lack ovaries. To that, physical and medical, extent, sex is limited until we evolve others.
Gender is another topic. Gender is "the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex" (Webster). Typically, which lacks definite confines. If one feels like a man but were born female, they would have Sex: female and Gender: man. Female and Male or sex, man and woman are gender. My psychological skills do not expand beyond the point of armchair (I'm an accounting major, so I deal with numbers and am needlessly pedantic) so the "tri-gendered foxkin" may feel that way for all I know, and care. If they feel closer to the being of a fox than a human gender, go them.
The part I, and many others (I presume), do not like is them show-boating their identities (what some would call mental illness) and then claim oppression when shown any negative feedback to their lives.
My mentality remains as it always has: Enjoy your life to the fullest potential, wherever you see its conclusion at. When you infringe on another's ability to do that (be it through silencing or any other means) you forfeit your right to expression, and outside factors come into play (legalities or police or what-have-you).
Armchair rant over.
TL;DR
Sex: Male, Female, Intersex used for medical purposes.
Gender: Whatever you feel best as for social purposes.
Mentality: You do you until you start restricting others, then we restrict you.
1. Either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures
Sex (also as defined by Merriam-Webster) :
2. the sum of the structural, functional, and behavioral characteristics of organisms that are involved in reproduction marked by the union of gametes and that distinguish males and females
Gender (as defined by Merriam-Webster) :
1. the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex
2. one of the categories (masculine, feminine, and neuter) into which words (such as nouns, adjectives, and pronouns) are divided in many languages
So, the MW definition of "sex" (noun) includes both physiological and psychological identity of oneself, whereas "gender" is basically a play on the second definition of sex.
Strictly speaking, there are 2 "sexes" and another intersex. This is needed for medical purposes. So yes, there is a need for sex because a woman has a lesser chance of colon cancer than a man, and men will not get ovarian cancer because they lack ovaries. To that, physical and medical, extent, sex is limited until we evolve others.
Gender is another topic. Gender is "the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex" (Webster). Typically, which lacks definite confines. If one feels like a man but were born female, they would have Sex: female and Gender: man. Female and Male or sex, man and woman are gender. My psychological skills do not expand beyond the point of armchair (I'm an accounting major, so I deal with numbers and am needlessly pedantic) so the "tri-gendered foxkin" may feel that way for all I know, and care. If they feel closer to the being of a fox than a human gender, go them.
The part I, and many others (I presume), do not like is them show-boating their identities (what some would call mental illness) and then claim oppression when shown any negative feedback to their lives.
My mentality remains as it always has: Enjoy your life to the fullest potential, wherever you see its conclusion at. When you infringe on another's ability to do that (be it through silencing or any other means) you forfeit your right to expression, and outside factors come into play (legalities or police or what-have-you).
Armchair rant over.
TL;DR
Sex: Male, Female, Intersex used for medical purposes.
Gender: Whatever you feel best as for social purposes.
Mentality: You do you until you start restricting others, then we restrict you.
#51
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Desdenne ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
Honestly im for doing what ever you want with out bitching people out.
How ever my opinion is that there is a psychological point to it. We go around talking about gender rolls and calling people faggots and stuff for liking hthings we presume as girly. That was the way I was raised as a kid, I liked the colour pink but my mother and father called me gay, a faggot and discouraged me. They would say things like what are you a girl?
I ended up wondeirng, am I gay? Do I want to be a girl? All because i liked a certain shade of red cause of the negative stigma associated with being a guy. Im not gay im not trans. I just like some things that are normally girly. I wonder how many teenagers wonder if they're gay or maybe if they are trans all because they are told they must be , even as a joke, for liking something as simple as a shade of colour.
How ever my opinion is that there is a psychological point to it. We go around talking about gender rolls and calling people faggots and stuff for liking hthings we presume as girly. That was the way I was raised as a kid, I liked the colour pink but my mother and father called me gay, a faggot and discouraged me. They would say things like what are you a girl?
I ended up wondeirng, am I gay? Do I want to be a girl? All because i liked a certain shade of red cause of the negative stigma associated with being a guy. Im not gay im not trans. I just like some things that are normally girly. I wonder how many teenagers wonder if they're gay or maybe if they are trans all because they are told they must be , even as a joke, for liking something as simple as a shade of colour.
