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anon (09/10/2015) [-] i'm here in Kuwait getting pissed and feeling ashamed that no arab country has volunteered to take any of them ... man we're really ******* things up!!
Any other country would have all able bodied men fighting to defend it, not running across countries to lives they didn't earn
Im from Poland,and **** me this is so ******* stupid.These assholes are everywhere.Theyre not grateful for **** ,next thing we may wake up to is a ******* sand ****** ******** in our toilet and screaming at us in their sand ****** language for invading their privacy when we are like Dude who the **** are you i didnt let you into my house.These assholes just do what they ******* want,and the people in charge of our countries have gone too far into the whole "political correctness" ******** and just let anything happen,because then theres ******* liberals preaching their own ******** .And the worst thing? The nonliberals do ******* nothing about it,even though it bothers them.The polish people are ******* lazy dickheads.There was recently a referendum,50% of people were needed to vote in order for their votes to be valid.So many ******* people just outright ignored that **** because theyre lazy ******* assholes,and after **** goes bad because they didnt take their ******* time to go and vote,they start ******* complaining.And this leads me to another issue- Poland has its own troubles,and we are forced by these dirty ass ************* to deal with THEIR ******* issues? Oh,and NOONE ******* CARES IN OUR COUNTRY? Thats just bat ******* **** insane.
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ubernal (09/10/2015) [-]
>ultra liberals
>extreme socialists
>implying that Liberal Alliance is ultra liberal
>Implying that Enhedslisten is extreme socialists
Top kek, l2p politics.
>extreme socialists
>implying that Liberal Alliance is ultra liberal
>Implying that Enhedslisten is extreme socialists
Top kek, l2p politics.
Something I want to point out. Look at the pictures in the post, who do you see mostly in these photos? The answer is men, now there are a few women and children in these photos yes, but the majority is young men. Now the problem there is, if your country is so ****** up with war and you can't live there anymore why leave your family behind? Well, because they slow you down while you try to save your own skin. Also, there has been evidence that some of these REALLY arent refugees but members of various terror groups who have admitted to sneaking in fighters into Europe.
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kmichel (09/10/2015) [-]
Not to mention that a ton of them aren't even from Syria. They're just taking advantage of the situation.
Personally Im ******* amazing about how much I missed, I was gone for about a week from FJ because I didnt want any spoilers about metal gear solid 5, but now I completed it (what a waste of time) and im back and just, goddamn, every time I leave some weird **** happens in the world, and I have no idea about it. Its like this site is my ******* newspaper, if it wasn't for this site I wouldn't have even known about the boston bombings. I love all of you by the way. Its good to be back.
**** , so true. i criticised you guys and now i'm regretting it
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gerfox (09/10/2015) [-]
If you ask me we should give the refugees the opportunity to chose. We give them four options. Option 1. A given refugee or family is offered to go to a certain European country as a part of their refugee quota. Option 2. They refuse the first option, but as we are morally obligated, if you ask me, to help out those in need we'll offer them shelter and food in refugee camps with certain liberties, in exchange for them helping out on public projects (for instance infrastructure). Option 3. They refuse that too, and insist on going to a country of their own choice. We insist that they leave if they do not wish to accept option 1 or 2. If they do not leave, then they will be detained, and a joint European military force will monitor their refugee camp - and they will be forced to work on the same public projects as the ones in option 2, but without the certain liberties.
Seriously.This is eroding the authority of the nation states.
Seriously.This is eroding the authority of the nation states.
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gerfox (09/10/2015) [-]
Yeah, I know it is. But how else would it be possible to make sure they simply don't just walk out of it, and go wherever they please?
To simply deport them isnt a viable option either. No country wants to take them, and they can't go back to Syria which isa war zone. The key, for me at least, is to acknowledge that they need some place to live - and to have their basic needs fulfilled. However, as the majority of European countries have financial problems as of late, they need to provide something in return for their refuge.
And they are refugees. Most of them have no money, no food, and few clothes. Most of them are uneducated too, and they should really be eternally grateful about the goodness that Europe has shown them. Unlike their brothers and sisters of faith.
To simply deport them isnt a viable option either. No country wants to take them, and they can't go back to Syria which isa war zone. The key, for me at least, is to acknowledge that they need some place to live - and to have their basic needs fulfilled. However, as the majority of European countries have financial problems as of late, they need to provide something in return for their refuge.
And they are refugees. Most of them have no money, no food, and few clothes. Most of them are uneducated too, and they should really be eternally grateful about the goodness that Europe has shown them. Unlike their brothers and sisters of faith.
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gerfox (09/10/2015) [-]
So you identify first and foremost as a national of whatever country you are born in? If your family gets ****** over it doesn't matter, because its your obligation to stay in that country. You had the chance to leave, and save your family - but because of your stubborness your sister is raped, and enslaved, your father was executed because he was a suspected dissident, your brother was killed in a suicide bombing - and your family home is in ruins because of sustained artillery fire from one of the factions in the civil war in their attempt to retake the city you live in. Furthermore, your mother is slowly, but surely dying from hunger, because you can't get your hands on enough food - and she would rather have you live on, than eat it yourself. If only you had fled instead of staying.
If you are so stubborn, well, then I guess you are as selfish as they come.
And what if the sides of the conflict is as it is in Syria? You can chose: A. A brutal dictatorship which murder their own people. B. A scrawny leaderless coalition of Islamists and other freedom fighters. C. A totalitarian theocracy renown for their brutality, tyranny and ruthlessness.
If you ask me, I would never fight for any of those causes.
Or would you alone start a new front, fighting against numerical, economical and militarily superior enemies on all sides?
If you are so stubborn, well, then I guess you are as selfish as they come.
And what if the sides of the conflict is as it is in Syria? You can chose: A. A brutal dictatorship which murder their own people. B. A scrawny leaderless coalition of Islamists and other freedom fighters. C. A totalitarian theocracy renown for their brutality, tyranny and ruthlessness.
If you ask me, I would never fight for any of those causes.
Or would you alone start a new front, fighting against numerical, economical and militarily superior enemies on all sides?
Don't worry. In 10 years, after these dune coons have raped and looted and murdered and jihadied Europe in its entirety, Germany will come to your rescue with a second holocaust.
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RyudenTamarashi (09/10/2015) [-]
******* refugee's. Trust me mate I understand your pain, Australia's been dealing with this **** for ages, and all the ultra goody two shoe cunts just keep going 'yea let them in, pay to look after them, dont mind that half of them are going to commit crimes then claim its their religion, you know what, we'll just let them do whatever they want!'
They wonder why our countries are getting ****** up, as they let in this ******* trash into our countries.
They wonder why our countries are getting ****** up, as they let in this ******* trash into our countries.
It's even worse because a lot of them get so much **** for nothing. My late grandmother was in housing commission, and she was the only non arab there.. none of them even needed to be there, most of them had luxury cars and **** . It's a ******* disgrace, but of course I can't say this in a lot of places as I get labeled a racist and xenophobic. ****** ****** m80
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RyudenTamarashi (09/10/2015) [-]
Yup, and then the ******* towel heads go 'oh no, he was an outcast, we are NOTHING like him' jesus ****** christ, its simple, your leaving a country that is ****** up by your laws based on your religion, and you come here, expected us to let you live by your religious laws?
Someone give me political power, for the love of god, I'll happily be the next Hitler if it A) fixes my country and B) doesn't get me ******* suicide bombed.
Someone give me political power, for the love of god, I'll happily be the next Hitler if it A) fixes my country and B) doesn't get me ******* suicide bombed.
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RyudenTamarashi (09/10/2015) [-]
yea but at least we are getting ****** by a bloke with something resembling a spine, if we're lucky he'll kick some of the cunts out....
Even if he kicks a few hundred out, another 500 will take their place (in other words they'll come via plane). At least he's trying yeah, but all he's doing is delaying it. Make the most of it before it gets to Europe level here I guess (already kind of is where I am but that's another story)
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ehwaz ONLINE (09/10/2015) [-]
Most of the so called refugees aren't actually that. They are mooching lazy sacks of worthless meat aiming to take advantage of the situation.
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Sunset (09/10/2015) [-] more seriously tho
i have family in europe that are immigrants, though they all are in pre-med/engineering/pharmacy/business. i think it's a bit unfair to mark all immigrants as "money-grubbing freeloaders"; i understand the rage and frustration, though. mass-immigration is a horrible idea for any country and should never be attempted on any moral basis, purely on the fact that people can abuse it. and, just because i can, a lot of the problems are largely due to the american gov/CIA. here's why:
>murrica funds Al Qaeda in 80's to fight Russians in Afghanistan
>Al Qaeda attacks murrica; Bin Laden "explicitly stated that al-Qaeda's motives for their attacks include: Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, the Jewish aggression against Muslims in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia, US support of Israel, and sanctions against Iraq." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motives_for_the_September_11_attacks
>murrica literally destabilizes an entire part of the world because lol freedoms
>murrica funds rebels in Syria against Syrian gov, which includes ISIS, which have former top-ranks from Al Qaeda in it
>therefore through proxy, it's murrican gov/CIA's fault this is all happening
i have family in europe that are immigrants, though they all are in pre-med/engineering/pharmacy/business. i think it's a bit unfair to mark all immigrants as "money-grubbing freeloaders"; i understand the rage and frustration, though. mass-immigration is a horrible idea for any country and should never be attempted on any moral basis, purely on the fact that people can abuse it. and, just because i can, a lot of the problems are largely due to the american gov/CIA. here's why:
>murrica funds Al Qaeda in 80's to fight Russians in Afghanistan
>Al Qaeda attacks murrica; Bin Laden "explicitly stated that al-Qaeda's motives for their attacks include: Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, the Jewish aggression against Muslims in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia, US support of Israel, and sanctions against Iraq." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motives_for_the_September_11_attacks
>murrica literally destabilizes an entire part of the world because lol freedoms
>murrica funds rebels in Syria against Syrian gov, which includes ISIS, which have former top-ranks from Al Qaeda in it
>therefore through proxy, it's murrican gov/CIA's fault this is all happening
Immigrants can go wherever they damn please.
Refugees shouldn't have any say in where they end up, as long as they're safe.
That's the problem.
Refugees shouldn't have any say in where they end up, as long as they're safe.
That's the problem.
the issue is mass immigration; moving literally millions of people into a new location doing no background checks to see if they are who they say they are, is near social suicide. also welfare abuse, but both of these problems are largely because of how the state handles the immigrants
Well, obviously.
But people aren't hating on immigrants for picking and choosing.
But people aren't hating on immigrants for picking and choosing.
Working immigrants are fine. But you must realise this is a big conflict and theres no way we can take every single individual into account. Mass immigration is a terrible idea especially in Scandinavia and this is what people are upset about. We have a system that is very easily abused.
America is a chapter on it's own, but so is Islams utter failure to adapt to modern society. It's not a coincidence that pretty much every muslim country is a ******** .
America is a chapter on it's own, but so is Islams utter failure to adapt to modern society. It's not a coincidence that pretty much every muslim country is a ******** .
absolutely. generalizations are always going to happen, however there are ways to sift through and figure out who's doing what. would it be wrong of me to assume that all governments nowadays have the ability to find out who are abusing their privileges to be in the countries, or would you agree with me?
muslim countries weren't always god-awful. there's plenty of footage / pics of various middle eastern countries in the 20th century that were succesful and beautiful
muslim countries weren't always god-awful. there's plenty of footage / pics of various middle eastern countries in the 20th century that were succesful and beautiful
Goverments has this ability but in Europe even they are loosing control. It doesn't help that these migrants refuse to be registered. I'm Generalizing because it's the only way I as an individual is able to have an opinion on the entire situation. Without generalisation it's impossible to discuss the situation as a whole, which is what this topic was about to begin with.
They weren't always awful. Indeed they used to be one of the leading nations in medicinal science. However this is no longer the case and it's why I specified "modern society"
They weren't always awful. Indeed they used to be one of the leading nations in medicinal science. However this is no longer the case and it's why I specified "modern society"
there's obviously something more at play than just image. if it were purely image, they'd take in immigrants with a hard-line stance ("only if you're here to work", "no freeloaders", etc etc). there's obvious political heft involved with a certain party in power taking in immigrants. it's like Democrats with illegal immigrants. of course most illegal immigrants are going to vote Democrat; they're the ones that don't mind them coming in
It scares me to know there's people in this world
Sorry .. but it does.
Sorry .. but it does.
Have you ever talked to any of them ?
"There is not a shred of humility in them." .. that's a lot of hard words put on a lot of different people. They might come from the same place, but not all is one person.
I just hate to see people talking about others like we one everything about them.
You have, out from what i guess you've seen in the media, simple now stated that "there is not a shred of humility in them."..
"There is not a shred of humility in them." .. that's a lot of hard words put on a lot of different people. They might come from the same place, but not all is one person.
I just hate to see people talking about others like we one everything about them.
You have, out from what i guess you've seen in the media, simple now stated that "there is not a shred of humility in them."..
Basically, they're acting as if they're entitled.
Which is pretty much the opposite of humility.
What's worse is, on Facebook, I'm seeing a trend of people posting stuff like "It's all our fault", or "they're fleeing from our bombs".
Basically, it's our fault that their country is tanking, and we have to take in refugees and downgrade our own lives.
**** them.
Which is pretty much the opposite of humility.
What's worse is, on Facebook, I'm seeing a trend of people posting stuff like "It's all our fault", or "they're fleeing from our bombs".
Basically, it's our fault that their country is tanking, and we have to take in refugees and downgrade our own lives.
**** them.
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thejudgingmoose (09/10/2015) [-] As an American, it is rather odd to not to have my country **** on when a large event like this rolls around.
It is a nice change of pace, but I wish there was a way for us all to just not fight anymore...it hurts my moosey heart.
It is a nice change of pace, but I wish there was a way for us all to just not fight anymore...it hurts my moosey heart.
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
So sorry that you are inconvenienced by the refugees while driving you car. Really really sorry. What a terrible situation.
Perhaps it's time for Germany to invade Denmark again. People there have forgotten what war means.
Perhaps it's time for Germany to invade Denmark again. People there have forgotten what war means.
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dakkadakka (09/10/2015) [-]
Why the **** should the west deal with everyone's problems with our money?
I feel you.
These pricks come to Europe, liberal cunts want to take them in, then in 10 years the same liberal cunts are going in the streets with posters blaming high immigration for a country's bad economic situation.
It's a good thing my country is positioned in a way that they don't need to pass through to get to another country... they have no reason to come to our borders... we're not rich and already struggle with lusoafricans, brazilians, ukranians and gypsies... we also don't give benefits for non registered immigrants, let alone fence jumpers... if the government came with some stupid plan to take refugees like Germany, UK and others are doing, then the population would freak out. If they do come for some reason, I hope the "Reconquista" gene in the people awakes.
They come in their little boats, it has been seen muslims throwing christians out of the boats... They were seen refusing food offered by RED CROSS, they would accept if it was the RED CRESCENT, their children were taking the food, then the parents grab the food and throw it out... Immigrants were in beaches with posters telling women not to use bikinis... they want to cross borders freely, yet they are in no way a member of the EU, yet a normal regular european or american family with a bottle of juice can't enter a plane because they look like a threat. So they come here to run away from their ****** countries and start demanding what they want because of their religious views, typical muslims... and no muslim here may say otherwise, in general muslims always do this **** , they come over and demand the country they immigrated to change some laws/rules and ways of life to suits their religious and ways they were brought up, islam if the main reason the middle east is a ******** .
The boats that are rescued by EU navies should just be sunk... no one would never know they passed by anyway.
The turks don't help in thsi amtter... they make ti worse, and it has goen on for some years sofiaecho.com/2009/09/21/787733_turkish-coast-guard-caught-escorting-smugglers-into-greece-report
These pricks come to Europe, liberal cunts want to take them in, then in 10 years the same liberal cunts are going in the streets with posters blaming high immigration for a country's bad economic situation.
It's a good thing my country is positioned in a way that they don't need to pass through to get to another country... they have no reason to come to our borders... we're not rich and already struggle with lusoafricans, brazilians, ukranians and gypsies... we also don't give benefits for non registered immigrants, let alone fence jumpers... if the government came with some stupid plan to take refugees like Germany, UK and others are doing, then the population would freak out. If they do come for some reason, I hope the "Reconquista" gene in the people awakes.
They come in their little boats, it has been seen muslims throwing christians out of the boats... They were seen refusing food offered by RED CROSS, they would accept if it was the RED CRESCENT, their children were taking the food, then the parents grab the food and throw it out... Immigrants were in beaches with posters telling women not to use bikinis... they want to cross borders freely, yet they are in no way a member of the EU, yet a normal regular european or american family with a bottle of juice can't enter a plane because they look like a threat. So they come here to run away from their ****** countries and start demanding what they want because of their religious views, typical muslims... and no muslim here may say otherwise, in general muslims always do this **** , they come over and demand the country they immigrated to change some laws/rules and ways of life to suits their religious and ways they were brought up, islam if the main reason the middle east is a ******** .
The boats that are rescued by EU navies should just be sunk... no one would never know they passed by anyway.
The turks don't help in thsi amtter... they make ti worse, and it has goen on for some years sofiaecho.com/2009/09/21/787733_turkish-coast-guard-caught-escorting-smugglers-into-greece-report