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mrdth ONLINE (09/10/2015) [-]
I can't believe so many agree with this.
First off, for all of you that think that all the refugees from Syria is going straight for the countries with benefits, most of them are staying near Syria, in the neighbouring countries!
Syria has a population of 20 million. About 8 million have fled within the countries, to the outskirts where there isn't as much bombing in ISIS action.
4 million have fled to other countries. Of those 4 mil, only 250k have fled to european countries, the rest staying in the neighbouring countries.
First off, none of those 250k wanna stay in Denmark. Denmark wont allow any refugees in just because they are family with refugees already in the country. Because of that, nobody is interested in staying in Denmark, because most of them left family in Syria and the nearby countries.
Now Sweden don't wanna take refugees from Denmark, because Denmark has plenty of money to help, but we just don't want to, but i really don't see how in the world the refugees would know this? They can't read our laws, and this isn't the laws we send to their newspapers!
Please tell me, how in the world would they know that they can't walk through Denmark to get to Sweden? It's by far the easiest way, and we are talking about people running away from war, who have not eaten for days!
Danish people aren't even allowed to give them a ride, or help them in other ways, to get to Sweden. Luckily people are doing it anyways.
Also, they are not 'occupying the highways'. There was like 300 people that walked on there, and as far as i know, the police have moved them elsewhere.
Keep in mind, that Denmark has been helping Syria, by fighting against ISIS with bombs and what not. Bombing a country creates a lot of refugees!!
But we don't wanna help the refugees.
We make their country even more unbearable to live in, and then refuse to help them when they leave it.
I can't believe this " **** the refugees" state of mind. We ****** them over first, the least we can do is help some of them.
mauerman id love a response to this.
First off, for all of you that think that all the refugees from Syria is going straight for the countries with benefits, most of them are staying near Syria, in the neighbouring countries!
Syria has a population of 20 million. About 8 million have fled within the countries, to the outskirts where there isn't as much bombing in ISIS action.
4 million have fled to other countries. Of those 4 mil, only 250k have fled to european countries, the rest staying in the neighbouring countries.
First off, none of those 250k wanna stay in Denmark. Denmark wont allow any refugees in just because they are family with refugees already in the country. Because of that, nobody is interested in staying in Denmark, because most of them left family in Syria and the nearby countries.
Now Sweden don't wanna take refugees from Denmark, because Denmark has plenty of money to help, but we just don't want to, but i really don't see how in the world the refugees would know this? They can't read our laws, and this isn't the laws we send to their newspapers!
Please tell me, how in the world would they know that they can't walk through Denmark to get to Sweden? It's by far the easiest way, and we are talking about people running away from war, who have not eaten for days!
Danish people aren't even allowed to give them a ride, or help them in other ways, to get to Sweden. Luckily people are doing it anyways.
Also, they are not 'occupying the highways'. There was like 300 people that walked on there, and as far as i know, the police have moved them elsewhere.
Keep in mind, that Denmark has been helping Syria, by fighting against ISIS with bombs and what not. Bombing a country creates a lot of refugees!!
But we don't wanna help the refugees.
We make their country even more unbearable to live in, and then refuse to help them when they leave it.
I can't believe this " **** the refugees" state of mind. We ****** them over first, the least we can do is help some of them.
mauerman id love a response to this.
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mauerman [OP]ONLINE (09/10/2015) [-] The ones going to northen europe, are the ones with money to travel.
The refugees refuse to get help from The Red Cross, a christian help organization.
They refuse to follow orders, they refuse to obey the laws, and they occupied more than just one freeway.
Yesterday the entire E45 was shut down from Padborg to Fredericia because of refugees, and they still refuse to stay in the internment camps, they refuse to follow rules and regulation, they want to survive on their own terms, and is not how the world works. If you want help, the people providing the help supply the terms. Just like with all the money Greece is borrowing from Germany. Greece wants to take all the money, but do not want to take the responsibility that comes with it. Germany says that they have to change everything about their economic system if they want to continue borrowing money, but Greece just ***** them over, time and time again.
Those 300 people that walked on the highway shows a mindset of not giving a **** , about our laws and our ways.
You have no right as a refugee to criticise the help you're getting, you have no right other than to sit on your ass and take orders. Be humble, not arrogant.
Besides, they are not running from war anymore!!!!
They haven't been in danger ever since they got out of syria. The second they entered Europe, they became immigrants, not refugees.
They are not being chased, they are not being hunted.
They are in no hurry. But they are too stubborn to to what we tell them to, because they don't give a **** about what happens to us.
The refugees refuse to get help from The Red Cross, a christian help organization.
They refuse to follow orders, they refuse to obey the laws, and they occupied more than just one freeway.
Yesterday the entire E45 was shut down from Padborg to Fredericia because of refugees, and they still refuse to stay in the internment camps, they refuse to follow rules and regulation, they want to survive on their own terms, and is not how the world works. If you want help, the people providing the help supply the terms. Just like with all the money Greece is borrowing from Germany. Greece wants to take all the money, but do not want to take the responsibility that comes with it. Germany says that they have to change everything about their economic system if they want to continue borrowing money, but Greece just ***** them over, time and time again.
Those 300 people that walked on the highway shows a mindset of not giving a **** , about our laws and our ways.
You have no right as a refugee to criticise the help you're getting, you have no right other than to sit on your ass and take orders. Be humble, not arrogant.
Besides, they are not running from war anymore!!!!
They haven't been in danger ever since they got out of syria. The second they entered Europe, they became immigrants, not refugees.
They are not being chased, they are not being hunted.
They are in no hurry. But they are too stubborn to to what we tell them to, because they don't give a **** about what happens to us.
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mrdth ONLINE (09/10/2015) [-]
Yes, but mate, think about where they're coming from.
It's ******* Syria! Must be hell on earth! No wonder they want their children growing up somewhere else! They are properly really ******* tired of radicalism, and they want to be free.
No wonder they wanna go to Sweden! (or Denmark for that matter)
And they don't follow our laws because they don't know them. Again, they're from ******* Syria, they must have the lowest level of education and understanding possible.
Think of helping them as giving a hand the that wierdo in the special ed class.
They don't know anything else, no one have taught them. So how about we teach them how to live in a civilizes society?
It's ******* Syria! Must be hell on earth! No wonder they want their children growing up somewhere else! They are properly really ******* tired of radicalism, and they want to be free.
No wonder they wanna go to Sweden! (or Denmark for that matter)
And they don't follow our laws because they don't know them. Again, they're from ******* Syria, they must have the lowest level of education and understanding possible.
Think of helping them as giving a hand the that wierdo in the special ed class.
They don't know anything else, no one have taught them. So how about we teach them how to live in a civilizes society?
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mrdth ONLINE (09/10/2015) [-]
White guilt? We bombed their ******* country man!
So did the US!
We bombed the **** out of them, so that their radicals wouldn't bomb us first, and to free them from radical islamism.
Now their civilians are paying the price, and Denmark don't wanna take any responsibility.
These people were raised in the middle east, raised to believe in Islam. Can you imagine how much that would suck?
The least we can do, not just for them, but for the rest of the worlds population, is help them out of this radicalism. It doesn't benefit anyone.
So did the US!
We bombed the **** out of them, so that their radicals wouldn't bomb us first, and to free them from radical islamism.
Now their civilians are paying the price, and Denmark don't wanna take any responsibility.
These people were raised in the middle east, raised to believe in Islam. Can you imagine how much that would suck?
The least we can do, not just for them, but for the rest of the worlds population, is help them out of this radicalism. It doesn't benefit anyone.
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swedishassassin (09/10/2015) [-] Ah, Denmark, I see you're becoming sober from the ultra-liberal, socialist-censored European self-loathing policies that cripple a nation due to the threat of being called a racist, despite logical reasoning that unregulated immigration leads to economic regression and civil unrest.
Have you considered an application of Freedom from the one country that still tries to disregard liberal tears in order to improve human quality of life in the long-run?
Have you considered an application of Freedom from the one country that still tries to disregard liberal tears in order to improve human quality of life in the long-run?
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trickytrickster (09/10/2015) [-]
Why are all these men running like pussies? Why don't they fight back?
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backupclover (09/10/2015) [-] Because they're cowards.
Either that or EU is being retarded and they're letting ISIS soldiers walk in without questioning it for fear of racism.
Either that or EU is being retarded and they're letting ISIS soldiers walk in without questioning it for fear of racism.
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newdevyx (09/09/2015) [-] And the left support these cultural terrorists. We should close our borders.
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heartlessrobot (09/09/2015) [-] They're not running from war, they're invading other countries. And not a single shot fired.
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welodog (09/10/2015) [-] So go start a crusade on their asses. A bully doesn't stop just cause you told the teacher. They have no consequences for doing what they do so why stop? People will say violence isn't the answer and they're wrong and right. It isn't what you should start with . You don't kick someone's ass cause you don't like the way the talk, but if they start sitting outside your house , **** talking you everywhere you go, and using your front door as a toilet. You beat the living (no pun intended) **** out of them. Violence is the answer BUT, here's the important part now, only if there's a call.
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shmoopy (09/10/2015) [-] 800,000 refugees going to Germany. 90% of refugees aren't even Syrian. Kill them. Just ******* kill them. No Syrian ID? No paperwork at all? You must not be a refugee. Go home. No? You're going to get violent? You want free stuff because you're foreign? Okay, have this free bullet in your head. Now you won't cause any problems.
**** the "refugees". **** Islam. **** Sharia. They're criminals and leeches. Send them back or kill them like the invaders they are. They're threatening your country. Get rid of them.
**** the "refugees". **** Islam. **** Sharia. They're criminals and leeches. Send them back or kill them like the invaders they are. They're threatening your country. Get rid of them.
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scootabot ONLINE (09/10/2015) [-] So I think it's fair to say that people will stop complaining about American Tourists after this is all over with?
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
In Scotland the SNP built their recent success on opposing austerity in the UK and looking looking for a fix to the current child poverty in Scotland.
Now they want to bring in more refugees.
In my opinion no one should be taking refugees unless they're able to support their own first. The benefits and housing that are going to go towards the refugees could be given to homeless on our own streets. I also think everyone should take the example set from Australia and only let in qualified people. A bunch of people from the east that likely won't speak English are useless here, not unless there's a camel farm large enough to employ >100000 being opened up in the UK I don't know about.
Now they want to bring in more refugees.
In my opinion no one should be taking refugees unless they're able to support their own first. The benefits and housing that are going to go towards the refugees could be given to homeless on our own streets. I also think everyone should take the example set from Australia and only let in qualified people. A bunch of people from the east that likely won't speak English are useless here, not unless there's a camel farm large enough to employ >100000 being opened up in the UK I don't know about.
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dwarfman (09/10/2015) [-] Story time!
Poland 1897: My paternal great grandfather denied licenses to continue operating his store by Russian authorities (His father was deported for his participation in a rebellion around thirty years before), fast forward to 1902: he and my great grandmother arrive in the USA and settle in New Jersey. He gets a job in a refinery, learns English, insists his kids learn it perfectly to fit in.
Bohemia 1862: maternal ancestors released from Austrian prisons (sided with the Huns 14 years earlier) have nothing to their name. 1863: Come to America, the patriarch despite being older is drafted with his sons to fight the confederates(Which they did happily, and really well from what I am told). All survive the war without serious injury, use war pay to get a home outside Philadelphia and two of them end up getting a college education. The next generation didn't speak German, parents again insisted on fitting in.
Today last I checked various parties attempted to do my ancestors harm, yet they didn't stop and bitch for a hand out. More importantly, they came to America, found work, learned the language, and despite being spat on by the Angolo whites integrated. We're not Poles/Bohemians we're Americans. But no only white people oppress others clearly this poor "refugees" deserve a free handout clearly this is the fault of said white people.
Poland 1897: My paternal great grandfather denied licenses to continue operating his store by Russian authorities (His father was deported for his participation in a rebellion around thirty years before), fast forward to 1902: he and my great grandmother arrive in the USA and settle in New Jersey. He gets a job in a refinery, learns English, insists his kids learn it perfectly to fit in.
Bohemia 1862: maternal ancestors released from Austrian prisons (sided with the Huns 14 years earlier) have nothing to their name. 1863: Come to America, the patriarch despite being older is drafted with his sons to fight the confederates(Which they did happily, and really well from what I am told). All survive the war without serious injury, use war pay to get a home outside Philadelphia and two of them end up getting a college education. The next generation didn't speak German, parents again insisted on fitting in.
Today last I checked various parties attempted to do my ancestors harm, yet they didn't stop and bitch for a hand out. More importantly, they came to America, found work, learned the language, and despite being spat on by the Angolo whites integrated. We're not Poles/Bohemians we're Americans. But no only white people oppress others clearly this poor "refugees" deserve a free handout clearly this is the fault of said white people.
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
They stopped being refugees the minute they left a safe country like Turkey for the EU, they're economic migrants now
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mettih (09/10/2015) [-] Thank you! A couple of my very red friends are calling me a racist because I agree about your exact opinion, nice to hear from someone else. People are calling Inger a racist, even tho I couldn't agree with her more
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gentledragon (09/10/2015) [-]
Hey guys , I have a hidden spell I kept from everyone ! As a warlock , I gentledragon shall use the spell Summon Hitler to rid us of the refugees !
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gentledragon (09/10/2015) [-]
Damn , you know , communism wouldn't be that bad right now , as long as they don't adapt opressive behavior and accept free speech everything should be just fine am I right ?
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palindromia ONLINE (09/10/2015) [-]
"man you americans are douchbags!! why wont you just open your borders to immigrants?"
-every yuropoor ever.
-every yuropoor ever.
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tankeruber (09/10/2015) [-] **** off faggot, I never said such a thing, it's just the extreme left-wing liberals/communists who say that, and in Europe they are called either leftwing- or center-parties.
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thegreatmandalore (09/10/2015) [-]
I find it funny how all people who are against refugees coming to germany (for example) are automatically labeled as racists. I, personally, am against every form of migration. I'm against taking in that many refugees. I'm against people moving here just because the want to. I'm even against former germans that once moved to another country coming back. I'm against every single person that decides they now want to live in germany. Until every person that is ALLREADY HERE has a place to life comfortable, and doesn't need to worry about money or a job. Then, and only then, should we take in refugees.
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assdoreponyfucker (09/10/2015) [-] As a man who comes from a Syrian family with a **** ton of cousins and alike that are part of these refugees, here's what I have to say. Keep in mind that my family is all Christian, so no we are not terrorists or muslims we don't wear hijabs and we don't support Sharia law. Syria in the past has never had problems internally with Muslims/Christians but now they do. The Syrian government protects Christians and is not a Sharia regime. Al Assad is a good guy don't listen to the ****** up American media.
Don't get me the wrong way. Please read what I have to say before replying. But if your country is going to have existing benefits and there are people nearby who live in a **** hole war zone that has no standard of living and their towns are being burned to ground because they don't follow certain religious rules, then why would anyone be surprised that they go to these prosperous EU countries to reap the benefits. My family has cousins who live in Sweden and Denmark now and the bad behavior is 100% coming from the Muslims. Since we're Christians living in today's society, not to mention we come from Syria, of course we dislike Muslims. We all think its bad they're burning flags and they want to implement Sharia law everywhere. I'm not at the best state of mind to put forth a good argument to back refugees but if you have statements to say, please I want to hear your point of view.
I know its hard to take me seriously with a username like mine, it's the ******* internet its a joke
Don't get me the wrong way. Please read what I have to say before replying. But if your country is going to have existing benefits and there are people nearby who live in a **** hole war zone that has no standard of living and their towns are being burned to ground because they don't follow certain religious rules, then why would anyone be surprised that they go to these prosperous EU countries to reap the benefits. My family has cousins who live in Sweden and Denmark now and the bad behavior is 100% coming from the Muslims. Since we're Christians living in today's society, not to mention we come from Syria, of course we dislike Muslims. We all think its bad they're burning flags and they want to implement Sharia law everywhere. I'm not at the best state of mind to put forth a good argument to back refugees but if you have statements to say, please I want to hear your point of view.
I know its hard to take me seriously with a username like mine, it's the ******* internet its a joke
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snored (09/10/2015) [-] I will probably be red thumbed to hell for this, but I see so much hate and undocumented accusations here that I just have to write this.
First of all, I agree with OP that the behavior of these refugees in particular is unacceptable. If you are fleeing to the EU, you have to respect the local rules and be thankful for the help you can get, it's as simple as that. In addition to that, the Danes have a good reasons to be skeptical to Syrians, which burned their flag and destroyed the Danish embassy in the aftermath of the Mohammad caricatures.
It should however be noted that the statement "These are simply refugees who want to get to safety" is true, if you look at the Syrian crisis on a large scale. According to Amnesty International, 95 % of the Syrian refugees (about 4 million people) have fled to Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt. Almost all of the refugees stop in these countries, not willing (or able) to risk their lives on a small raft over the Mediterranean Sea to get to Europe. In these countries they most often live under terrible conditions, getting little or no help from the local government. This is no surprise if one takes under consideration the immense numbers they come in contra the countries' ability to give them help. One example is Lebanon, which has received more than one million refugees, with a native population of four million. Of course they cant help them all, they have no jobs to offer them and they can probably not return to Syria for years to come.
So of course the few Syrians who has enough money to pay a smuggler to take them to Europe will often do so. Many drown, and many end up getting stranded in Turkey, Greece and Italy, where they once again are stuck in a hopeless situation, living under terrible conditions as the countries are unable to help them all. So naturally some of them try to get to countries that has decided to grant asylum to the most people.
The main problem is that some countries, for example Germany and Sweden, have decided to grant asylum a lot of refugees, while many others doesn't do anything. (Many of the extremely wealthy Gulf States have closed their border to Syrian refugees, Japan and South Korea does absolutely nothing despite being some of the wealthiest nations on earth, China has only granted $200 000 despite being the worlds second largest economy.) If the international community, like the UN and the EU had agreed upon a plan on a large scale, these refugees wouldn't be much of a problem. But now, some countries do way too much, and others do nothing, leading to an unfair situation for the native population of for example the Nordic countries, and an intolerable situation for the refugees.
I would also like to point out that many of you seem to believe that these refugees are radical muslims. If they were, they would probably just join the IS, which are currently creating the dream nation of the islamists. Many of the refugees are christian, and basically have to convert to Islam or die when confronted by the IS. Syria was a high-functioning society before the war, education was widely available and many of them speak English. They will therefore be easier to integrate than most refugees and will be more able to work.
So yeah, the refugees shouldn't behave like the ones in OP's post, but we have to do something to combat the world's largest humanitarian crisis since WW2.
Sources:
www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/09/syrias-refugee-crisis-in-numbers/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria
First of all, I agree with OP that the behavior of these refugees in particular is unacceptable. If you are fleeing to the EU, you have to respect the local rules and be thankful for the help you can get, it's as simple as that. In addition to that, the Danes have a good reasons to be skeptical to Syrians, which burned their flag and destroyed the Danish embassy in the aftermath of the Mohammad caricatures.
It should however be noted that the statement "These are simply refugees who want to get to safety" is true, if you look at the Syrian crisis on a large scale. According to Amnesty International, 95 % of the Syrian refugees (about 4 million people) have fled to Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt. Almost all of the refugees stop in these countries, not willing (or able) to risk their lives on a small raft over the Mediterranean Sea to get to Europe. In these countries they most often live under terrible conditions, getting little or no help from the local government. This is no surprise if one takes under consideration the immense numbers they come in contra the countries' ability to give them help. One example is Lebanon, which has received more than one million refugees, with a native population of four million. Of course they cant help them all, they have no jobs to offer them and they can probably not return to Syria for years to come.
So of course the few Syrians who has enough money to pay a smuggler to take them to Europe will often do so. Many drown, and many end up getting stranded in Turkey, Greece and Italy, where they once again are stuck in a hopeless situation, living under terrible conditions as the countries are unable to help them all. So naturally some of them try to get to countries that has decided to grant asylum to the most people.
The main problem is that some countries, for example Germany and Sweden, have decided to grant asylum a lot of refugees, while many others doesn't do anything. (Many of the extremely wealthy Gulf States have closed their border to Syrian refugees, Japan and South Korea does absolutely nothing despite being some of the wealthiest nations on earth, China has only granted $200 000 despite being the worlds second largest economy.) If the international community, like the UN and the EU had agreed upon a plan on a large scale, these refugees wouldn't be much of a problem. But now, some countries do way too much, and others do nothing, leading to an unfair situation for the native population of for example the Nordic countries, and an intolerable situation for the refugees.
I would also like to point out that many of you seem to believe that these refugees are radical muslims. If they were, they would probably just join the IS, which are currently creating the dream nation of the islamists. Many of the refugees are christian, and basically have to convert to Islam or die when confronted by the IS. Syria was a high-functioning society before the war, education was widely available and many of them speak English. They will therefore be easier to integrate than most refugees and will be more able to work.
So yeah, the refugees shouldn't behave like the ones in OP's post, but we have to do something to combat the world's largest humanitarian crisis since WW2.
Sources:
www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/09/syrias-refugee-crisis-in-numbers/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria
