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#247 - hardongo (07/31/2014) [-]
I thought that the comments section would be full of male genitalia given the nature of the post , surprisingly they were only a few, FJ im proud.
I thought that the comments section would be full of male genitalia given the nature of the post , surprisingly they were only a few, FJ im proud.
#242 - butteredhamster (07/31/2014) [-]
Her bum is a little off, but oh well. Too late to fix that.
User avatar #335 to #242 - retributionthepimp (08/16/2014) [-]
the ass was fat
#193 - spanishninja ONLINE (07/31/2014) [-]
Comment Picture
#174 - kwizzy (07/31/2014) [-]
I used to draw a lot with paper and pen, but I've switched to digital art over the past couple years. I enjoy it much more.
(This was done over a year ago)
User avatar #227 to #174 - thempc ONLINE (07/31/2014) [-]
that's cool, i like the "eat **** " claymore
User avatar #231 to #227 - kwizzy (07/31/2014) [-]
#171 - bval (07/31/2014) [-]
Bob Ross mentioned.
Swell with happy trees and puffy clouds.
#8 - lukasm ONLINE (07/31/2014) [-]
Really nice tutorial - thumbed, saved and favorited.
But I can't say, that I agree with Bob Ross' "Talent is a lie", because I actually do know quite a few people with real talent.
Actually anyone has a talent for *something* - something in which he is better then average person and has less difficulties in improving that particular skill.

I have a friend who can draw really nice with very little practice .. I have another friend (well, more like acquaintance) who in two hours learned to play the guitar better than me in a few months (also he can take almost any instrument and quickly learn how to play it). Another one is a good cook and does cooking naturally, without much learning .. etc.
But unfortunately not every talent is usefull in our society and also not every talent will be discovered or improved by that person, because he/she doesn't need or want to.

Talent doesn't usually mean that you are automatically awesome in *something*, but it's (really) easier for you to improve your skills in that *something*.

I personally don't know which is my stronger talent, but at least I can draw a little bit, but I need to practice if I want to improve my drawing skills and I know that..but unfortunately I'm also procrastinator

And btw this is second picture I draw with my new tablet after I stopped drawing for like 5 or 6 years (and even before that pause it was only a few pencil drawings a year, so it's not like I have much experience..I just liked to doodle some things or repaint some of my favorite drawings - for example those of Drizzt from Todd Lockwood .. but only in black and white, I started to paint with colors only after I recently bought).

P.S.: sorry for my english, I hope it was written understandably
User avatar #9 to #8 - hikewne (07/31/2014) [-]
Talent is a lie. Your ability to do things with less dificulty is because your brain somehow managed to increase the connections between your memory and your hands, or eyes, or whathever you do.

Yeah, it helps, making things easier to do but... Why? If you know the answer to the "Why", congratulations you're closer to the god's work or that thing above every things that a pentagram points for those who don't believe in the glorious spaghetti monster but everything is in your head.

Something you can apply the concept : You play shooter games 27/7/365, inevitably you will develop an insanely skill to identify and follow targets, and that only if you were assault the whole time. Being sniper also gives you the ability to calculate distances - bullet fall I don't care what this **** improves or if the example was useful, but it must be pretty cool. Is late at night here and I don't want to think anymore.

THE POINT IS: Talent is something that some ****** said so you will never understand what was useful for you until you started to practice specifically the thing you are good.

Until the 5-7 years old you're useless. You will not have talent for anything too awesome. There's a lot of things that helped yourself to be good at something and I'm not a cientific so even If I care about it and I do I can't do anything.
But, I don't know, maybe your friend can do that because he does something that is connected to the coordination and precision requiered to do a draw.
And the other one is just a little ****** who listen closely to every god damn note, a good coordinatiĆ³n and things like that.
No matter how good he is or what tame it takes, being a fast learner is something that everybody can do if we know how to learn, and in the school we are supposed learn. Learn a lot of things at the same time helps you to learn.

If you keep doing things related to what you want to do, you shouldn't forget what you learn... And its pretty good. I don't believe in the internet though, but if you truly ******* made it, I love it. Looks good for a ring or a necklace
#16 to #9 - noonelikesdan ONLINE (07/31/2014) [-]
Talent is a lie? Sure you can teach your self to draw, but your drawings still gonna like like some basic sketches and this tutorial is just copying an already existing image, sure you can train yourself to use more advanced techniques, but being able to create something similar to michelangelo pfft, you can't teach yourself that.
#14 to #9 - lukasm ONLINE (07/31/2014) [-]
That's right - I don't know "why", but I know that people with the same amount of training are on different level in doing something.
You can take 10 kids (with no experience) and teach them to play football 3 hours a day for like five weeks and some of them will be better than others. Even though they all spent the same amount of time on training, some of them will be better than others (those others will have to work harder to keep pace with faster kids).

But I guess it also has something to do with what do you enjoy doing and what not (and that also could be vice versa - you have "talent" for hockey and therefore you like to play hockey, because it feels natural to you)

I can't say anything against your first sentence, because that's almost exactly what I think talent is - it's just some congenital difference (differences from another one's brain) in person's brain which makes doing some things less difficult (and others more difficult).

And other thing you mentioned - skill. No one is born with skill, you just have better starting point for some things than "average human" .. but in the end, skill is all that matters and that's probably what you and B. Ross mean.

"You" can suck at some things, but with a lot of hard work (and patience) - you can master anything.

tl;dr - talent is more like a better starting point, but if you don't practice and improve that particular activity (gain skill), then you will be stuck on the same level and others (even the less talented) will left you behind

And yes, I draw that but it's not my design (I actually - because of lack of skill - usually don't draw my own designs .. most of the times I just redraw drawings which I like .. the only exception - yet - are landscapes and maybe some non-living things like machines) .. it's witcher medailon from The Witcher games.
User avatar #28 to #8 - vorarephilia (07/31/2014) [-]
Anyone can learn how to do any skill good with enough time.

but denying talent denies the existence of prodigies and savants. A 5 year old Asian playing piano better than musicians with years of experience is so exceptionally talented, we gave special words for it inb4 'asians'. . I am not a neurologist, but I think talent may have something to do with neural plasticity in certain areas of the brain and possibly being 'wired' for something (Ever notice that many savants and geniuses are either autistic or hold eccentricities? Tesla comes to mind). Now HOW some are seemingly programmed to draw straight out of the womb while I can't draw a straight line without a ruler is beyond me.
#125 to #8 - lukasm ONLINE (07/31/2014) [-]
I might as well show this - I draw it for my friends (on the occasion of their engagement .. one of them loves Secret of Kells) like one year ago
#131 to #125 - lukasm ONLINE (07/31/2014) [-]
Today I would draw it differently (mostly that branches)

Oh, and this is my old pencil drawing of Firefly (with bad perspective)
User avatar #35 to #8 - alleksi (07/31/2014) [-]
People who are seemingly talented at drawing, just most likely drew a lot when they were kids. The more you do something the better you get at it.

Yes, learning things can be easier for some and harder for others, but using the word talent to describe that implies that those who don't have that "talent" can never reach the same level as the "talented" people. Which is false. "Untalented" people just have to work harder because it doesn't come natural for them, but they can still be as good, or even better as "talented" people.
#119 to #35 - lukasm ONLINE (07/31/2014) [-]
I totally agree with your second paragraph and I don't think, that I said something which contradicts it.
As I said in #14, I take "talent" more like better starting position but that's all - rest is practice, more practice and even more hard work if you want to be really good at something.
Man with "talent" who stopped improving himself will be soon worse than another man (or woman) who keeps improving and practising that particular skill (art, anything) - talented or not.
User avatar #317 - lolguythesecond (08/01/2014) [-]
this may be the most dumb question ever, but what if you want to draw something straight from your brain? Like not draw another image. My thoughts are kinda too fuzzy to make out shapes
#325 to #317 - anon (08/05/2014) [-]
I think that's what most people want to accomplish, being able to draw from the imagination. Most people do have problems pulling images from their heads and putting it on paper; like you said, things look fuzzy, and that's normal because our brains aren't meant to be cameras and to absorb every detail.

But the brain does store images the more you draw them. Lots of people I've asked who are good at drawing people/characters say they took life-drawing classes and drew real people or copied pictures from manga or comic books. They eventually learned how to draw anatomy and faces and things like that through copying until they were able to do it on their own. Through spending time figuring out how to draw something through copying, you may get a better understanding of it.
#326 to #317 - anon (08/05/2014) [-]
Oh yeah, I would suggest using a website like www.quickposes.com to practice drawing poses if you aren't able to draw from real life. Lookup gesture drawings and do those to get the basic idea of a pose. You could also get some manga books and study the drawings to get an idea of anatomy. This is all just if you would be interested in drawing people. If not, you could do the same for dragons or landscapes or things like that. You can definitely learn by being observant. I hope this helps!
User avatar #298 - wardylocks (08/01/2014) [-]
my tutor told me drawing is 90% looking and 10% drawing
when we did nude drawings we literally had to look so closely at the model and hardly look at the paper, sometimes its mentally exhausting but its pretty damn good
thankyou op this is great
User avatar #293 - fukkendragonite (08/01/2014) [-]
I could never draw at all. It's nothing to do with drawing with my brain, but rather my hands creating some of the worst abominations ever put to paper.

Good advice though, won't work for me.
#288 - zombiznes (08/01/2014) [-]
**** i forgot to log in
User avatar #292 to #288 - sanguinemybrother (08/01/2014) [-]
Have a thumb anon
User avatar #294 to #292 - zombiznes (08/01/2014) [-]
thanks man
#261 - ribocoon (07/31/2014) [-]
I draw pretty good   
 in minecraft
I draw pretty good
in minecraft
User avatar #257 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (07/31/2014) [-]
my year 9 art teacher told me that real artists never erase a mistake, Me on the other hand went through more erasers than pencils.
#249 - aabbccddeeffgghhii (07/31/2014) [-]
The technique is actually quite accurate. Also, MS Paintskills are off the charts ladies and gentlemen.
#123 - chudy (07/31/2014) [-]
I don't completely agree with the statement that talent is ******** . Some people have to work twice as hard to achieve the same result, and some are just born good. Sure perfection comes with practice and dedication, but a natural affinity comes in handy.
Some might find it as easy as taking a piss to draw at the first attempt, and some might struggle for years before reaching the same level.
#103 - JustintheWaysian (07/31/2014) [-]
hikewne, this is fantastic content.

I've always loved drawing, but I've struggled with natural and organic forms and subjects. I consider myself to be very good with drawing architecture and mechanical things, but when it comes to the natural forms of things such as trees, hills, and grass, I've never been able to get it to look right.

Could you possibly post something that helps people like me draw organic things?

Btw, this content was really good. Making the distinction between drawing exactly what the eyes see as opposed to the symbols that our brains create really helped me understand my already existing problem with drawing.
User avatar #72 - slenderwolf (07/31/2014) [-]
I tried my hand at drawing a few times. The horrors that were created that day will haunt me for eternity. I'll stick to writing, that I can at least do passably.
#30 - sirbrentcoe (07/31/2014) [-]
thanks man, that was very informative.
thanks man, that was very informative.
#26 - primalneon (07/31/2014) [-]
The book 'The new: How to draw on the right side of the brain' teaches all this and more, check it out or Google that **** in images, pops right up with before and after pictures of people who read it.
Also, 'talent is a lie' is both right and wrong, some people appear 'naturally good drawers' because they naturally use the right side of their brain then the left. For example, the percentage of good artists is higher in groups of people with dyslexia, because they were born with brains that connect better on the right side.
User avatar #75 to #26 - ponchosdm (07/31/2014) [-]
Thank you!, I was trying to remmember this book but I could't. also, If I am a left sided brain thinker(I am a programmer, so logic thinking is my nature) and my artistic skills are really bad, would this mean my learning curve will take too much longer than other people?
#111 - anon (07/31/2014) [-]
Oh my god! Do I try...
....I try all the time....
User avatar #112 to #111 - hikewne (07/31/2014) [-]
In this institution!
User avatar #128 to #112 - spazzaroniandcheez (07/31/2014) [-]
User avatar #129 to #128 - hikewne (07/31/2014) [-]
I pray every single day...

User avatar #149 to #129 - pwnsomelink (07/31/2014) [-]
#15 - Pred (07/31/2014) [-]
Except that "Talent is a lie" is just a lie to keep people without talent motivated

Artsy talent is the most common talent people pop out of their moms vaginas with
User avatar #20 to #15 - syntheticdoll (07/31/2014) [-]
Everyone can learn to draw.
User avatar #25 to #20 - ninjaroo (07/31/2014) [-]
Yes, but when people talk about talent they're talking about the combination of physical aspects, such as a steady hand or good eyesight, and mental aspects such as a certain viewpoint, that mean that compared to someone else without training they'll have an easier time learning and completing an action.
Talent isn't some mystical magical concept.
User avatar #18 to #15 - cinote (07/31/2014) [-]
more like to give lazy people an excuse to not work.
Sure, some people are born with higher artistic ability, but in the long run their 'talent' gets them nowehre if they're not willing to work on it.
#19 to #18 - Pred (07/31/2014) [-]
That may be true as well, however that was not my point.

I was saying that the statement "Talents is a lie" is a fallacy and people are in fact being born with talent.

How they decide to use it (be it polishing it or abandoning it) is their problem and their decision

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