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#439 - elcreepo
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(06/20/2014) [-]
That video, the way it pisses me off...    
   
Those people are the reason I am working to lose my 80-90 pound excess weight.    
   
I will be DAMNED if I turn into one of those... those ridiculous moocows who are LYING, outright LYING to themselves and making themselves feel better about being the way you are    
   
It's great that you're happy but accept the fact that you are doing massive damage to your body BEFORE going to these things. Admit you have a problem first before you decide if you can live with it. And if you can, that's fine, but don't sit there and tell the world you're perfectly healthy and exercise everyday. Don't go saying being thin is bad, or that you're a victim of society. No, you're a victim of your own lazyness and it is YOUR fault that you're fat, not genetics, because genetics DOES NOT turn you into a simmering pile of pigfat. Husky maybe, bulky, but not a glob of mucus someone hacked up onto the sidewalk.    
   
That comes from years of denial, of saying it's too hard to work out so you won't, or saying there's no point in working out because you won't lose that much weight, at the rate you're going even five pounds off is going to benefit you.    
   
Put down the ******* ice cream. Go for a walk. Just a walk and work up to a run. Eat an apple.Eat as much protein as you can so you don't dive facefirst into that swimming pool of empty calories you call a treat.  I will personally have you write down everything you've eaten in a week to show you the RIDICULOUS amount of food you're eating. I will show you that it's cheaper and easier, not to mention saner and logical, to put that ******* fork down or put it into a salad for once.    
   
What you are doing belongs on my strange addiction. What you are doing is an addiction that is hurting you as much as smoking. At least smokers don't deny its destroying their lungs.    
   
IT'S NOT THAT ******* HARD TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT IF YOU PUT YOUR MIND TO IT.    
   
Stupid moocows.
That video, the way it pisses me off...

Those people are the reason I am working to lose my 80-90 pound excess weight.

I will be DAMNED if I turn into one of those... those ridiculous moocows who are LYING, outright LYING to themselves and making themselves feel better about being the way you are

It's great that you're happy but accept the fact that you are doing massive damage to your body BEFORE going to these things. Admit you have a problem first before you decide if you can live with it. And if you can, that's fine, but don't sit there and tell the world you're perfectly healthy and exercise everyday. Don't go saying being thin is bad, or that you're a victim of society. No, you're a victim of your own lazyness and it is YOUR fault that you're fat, not genetics, because genetics DOES NOT turn you into a simmering pile of pigfat. Husky maybe, bulky, but not a glob of mucus someone hacked up onto the sidewalk.

That comes from years of denial, of saying it's too hard to work out so you won't, or saying there's no point in working out because you won't lose that much weight, at the rate you're going even five pounds off is going to benefit you.

Put down the ******* ice cream. Go for a walk. Just a walk and work up to a run. Eat an apple.Eat as much protein as you can so you don't dive facefirst into that swimming pool of empty calories you call a treat. I will personally have you write down everything you've eaten in a week to show you the RIDICULOUS amount of food you're eating. I will show you that it's cheaper and easier, not to mention saner and logical, to put that ******* fork down or put it into a salad for once.

What you are doing belongs on my strange addiction. What you are doing is an addiction that is hurting you as much as smoking. At least smokers don't deny its destroying their lungs.

IT'S NOT THAT ******* HARD TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT IF YOU PUT YOUR MIND TO IT.

Stupid moocows.
#444 to #439 - TheBigGummyBear
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couldn't have said it better myself
#400 - mojusk ONLINE
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its a question about how deep you dig your own grave.
the deeper you dig, the harder it is to get up.
the fatter you get, the harder it is to get fit-
#408 to #400 - kinginyellow
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Amen, I was once bordering 240lb and I hated it so ******* much. Right now I managed to get back to 217 and I'm slowly climbing back up. I found just doing it everyday without question helps, just don't ever miss a day unless you have to, and it gives you a kind of momentum to keep going.
#438 to #408 - ohpee
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I can vouch for this, I started 3 weeks ago and when I started I weighed 100 kg, idk how much I weigh now but I feel a lot better than I used to. Working out everyday is nice.
#341 - serotonin
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(06/19/2014) [-]
My friends mother went to doctor   
Fr. Mother - But doctor I just cant loose weight.  It impossible.   
Doctor - Do you know that there no fat people in Auschwitz?   
   
Friend tought that doctor was rude. I think that he was right
My friends mother went to doctor
Fr. Mother - But doctor I just cant loose weight. It impossible.
Doctor - Do you know that there no fat people in Auschwitz?

Friend tought that doctor was rude. I think that he was right
#350 to #341 - finblob
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(06/19/2014) [-]
Bit direct but true I guess.
#329 - lolzordz
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Im a skinny guy and I try my hardest to actually put ON weight. So I can see where fat people are coming from when they say it's hard for them to lose weight. Sure it may be possible but for some people it's way easier than others and I think we should all take some perspective on that.
#334 to #329 - stifflimb
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Also one of the ones that barely can gain weight, but it's not the same as problem with losing weight, people who have easy time staying "thin/skinny" can be cause that the amount of energy the body takes from food is very little and that allows us to stay thin despite of unhealthy food and such, but to lose weight it's as he say, you use more energy than you take in and you will lose weight, it's more a matter of will and not body when it comes to lose weight.
And before anyone gets butthurt yes it's also a matter of will to gain weight.
I mean to say it's not the same thing but to change it it's still a matter of will.
#336 to #334 - lolzordz
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Yes but my point is, these fat people would have to work harder than normal people to lose weight, same way I have to work harder to gain weight. life isn't fair and everyone should consider these things before spewing hate. it's childish to think we're all given the same life and that our choices alone could represent who we really are.
#356 to #336 - stifflimb
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Not harder than most people, they should watch what they eat while doing training, lots of people keep track of the amount of calories they eat and how much they spend, if it was easy everyone would do it.
Yes, our choices decides how we turn out, you dont get fat in a day or two, if you been overweight your whole life it's cause of your choices.
#402 to #356 - lolzordz
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i dont think you get what im saying
i dont think you get what im saying
#450 to #402 - stifflimb
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I get it, but I dont agree with it, overweight people cost a lot to society just like people abusing cigaretts and alcohol often cost a lot too, and they do it cause of a choice they made themself, and that angers people since we dont get why we should pay for their life styles.
And overweight people dont really have to work harder than most people to lose weight, they lose it easier since they got so much of it, a friend of mine that was (still is a bit) overweight started checking more what he ate and talk walks almost every day, it might have taken a year but he lost almost 110 pounds (50 kg), it took time but it was not hard as soon as he started to work for it.
#343 to #336 - internetnick
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The fatter you are, the faster you lose weight. It's hard to not eat as much, but everyone can do it.. I literally eat so much I cannot stomach any more and cannot put on any weight. I've been stuck at 140 for a year.
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#339 to #329 - kwanzalord
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It really depends
At their stage of fatness, its is EXTREMELY easy to lose wight.
However, as you start to lose weight, it gets harder and harder.
This is why some people are stuck at "chubby'. When you're fat, it's easy...
#380 to #329 - kerfufflemachtwo
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(06/19/2014) [-]
That is true. However, a large chunk of these people simply don't want to put in the effort.

I mean, look at her response. "It's really hard to exercise."

Well, duh. Doesn't mean you should just give up on it.
#202 - robuntu
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(06/19/2014) [-]
I know people like to hate on fat people, but his answer is retarded. It's technically correct, but it doesn't make it any less retarded than the 9th grader who goes around slapping people and saying, 'BUT I DIDN'T TOUCH YOU!' Technically, he's right. Physics and all that jazz: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/23797/what-does-it-mean-for-two-objects-to-touch

But it's a pointless thing to say.
#215 to #202 - justtocomment
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What do you mean? His answer is a basic truth that can be applied universally. Burn more calories, eat fewer calories. There are plenty of other supplements and nutrients that can be involved, but at its core it all comes down to energy in and out like he said.
I was 310 pounds just a few months ago, and was on the upward slope. And I was too lazy to lose the weight. I made excuses, said I was healthy as I was, pretended that losing weight was too hard and I needed to go slowly about it... Then I lost a good job, got stuck with a ****** minimum wage job, roommate moved out and I was suddenly so broke I couldn't afford to keep eating as much. Having about 6 dollars a week to feed myself, and working a physically demanding job (as compared to the desk job I had before), I was suddenly down to 215 pounds. I'm still at that weight, because I continue to watch my caloric intake now that I have more money.
It's not comfortable, it's not fun, and it's not easy. The only reason I even managed to lose the weight was because the option was taken out of my hands and it was no longer up to my own willpower. But the fact remains that it is still just about energy in and energy out.
#231 to #215 - robuntu
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(06/19/2014) [-]
TLDR -
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_calorie_is_a_calorie

In 2007, a group of Wake Forest University researchers published a report from a six-year longitudinal study in which they fed two groups of monkeys the same number of calories and dietary levels of fat, with the only difference being that one group was fed foods higher in trans fat. The high trans fat group gained 30% more belly fat compared to their lower trans fat counterparts

In 2012, the Journal of the American Medical Association published the results of a clinical trial performed by a group of researchers that investigated whether dietary composition affected weight loss. The researchers concluded that the type of calories consumed does affect the number of calories burned by an individual

Science biatches!
#227 to #215 - robuntu
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BroScience is no science.

You had an experience. That doesn't invalidate all other experiences. Example: I eat peanuts. I'm fine. Therefore, people with peanut allergies cannot exist.

Can you see why that argument doesn't make any sense?

There are physical limits, and yes, that's why if you stop eating you will, necessarily, lose weight. But we're not talking about theoretical limits....we're talking about regular life.

First, you can't possibly know how many calories you take in. The human digestive system isn't perfectly efficient. When you eat, some amount of calories is wasted and comes out as crap. How much? Unless you're crapping into a bucket and testing it, you don't know.

Second, you can't possibly know how many calories you are burning. At best you've got very rough estimates based on averages printed on a website. When you run a mile, how many calories do you burn? *IT DEPENDS* on a lot of factors. And it changes. What you've eaten affects how many calories you burn while you do nothing. Past activity affects how many calories you burn while you sleep.

Third, lots of other factors come into play. Chemicals and hormones...give an old man testosterone and without instructing him to change his diet or exercise, he'll gain muscle mass and lose fat.

Bottom line is you don't know how many calories are going in, you don't know how many calories are going out, and there are many additional factors that determine how you feel and how you perform physically, including how many calories you burn while performing activities.

#233 to #227 - justtocomment
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You don't need the exact amount as long as you know intake is less than output. Just because you aren't testing every last gram of your body for calories doesn't mean you can't know what you need to do to lose weight. You're over complicating the issue as if it invalidates it. Knowing your BMI allows you to know how many calories you burn just existing every day. If you take in fewer calories than you burn, you lose weight. If I know that cup of yogurt has 90 calories in it, I know I need to burn at least 90 to counterbalance that. I don't know how many calories running burns, but I know that it burns more than not running, and I know more running burns even more.
Just because I don't know that I only absorbed 76.4 calories of that yogurt, and running burns 121.7 calories exactly doesn't mean I can't know that running is burning calories.
You don't need to know the exact number. You don't need to know any numbers. Your body doesn't care about the math, or the research into your stool samples, or how many calories Yoplait says is in their yogurt. Your body just functions. As long as you know you are burning more than you're taking in, you know you'll lose weight. That's not arguable, that's not an opinion. That's how fat works.
#236 to #233 - robuntu
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Knowing your BMI does not tell you how many calories you burn just existing. That's 100% false.
#194 - ludislavonac
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(06/19/2014) [-]
Yup, losing weight is pure maths. You need to consume fewer calories (or burn more) than you eat, it's as basic as that.    
3 months ago I started doing the P90X3 workout and downloaded the myfitnespal app to track calories. Went from 79 to 72kg (that's about 14 lbs of weight lost, for you american guys) and I feel fit as hell, my muscles are starting to grow and I finaly eat proper food.   
My 90 day workout cycle is over tomorrow, and I think I'll just start it over once more to lose a few more kilograms and then I'll start packing some muscle. gif is random
Yup, losing weight is pure maths. You need to consume fewer calories (or burn more) than you eat, it's as basic as that.
3 months ago I started doing the P90X3 workout and downloaded the myfitnespal app to track calories. Went from 79 to 72kg (that's about 14 lbs of weight lost, for you american guys) and I feel fit as hell, my muscles are starting to grow and I finaly eat proper food.
My 90 day workout cycle is over tomorrow, and I think I'll just start it over once more to lose a few more kilograms and then I'll start packing some muscle. gif is random
#172 - charliechaplain
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(06/19/2014) [-]
>overweight
>fit
choose one
#180 to #172 - JoshOwnsAll
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what about underweight, and phisically unfit?
#190 to #180 - charliechaplain
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admittedly, this gets overlooked quite often with people (mostly female demographic) suffering from anorexia, Bulimia, Rumination disorder, etc. due to unrealistic body expectations but the problem isn't as widespread as obesity or weight related issues. Case in point: heart diseases are the number one cause of death in the States (where I live) and most heart attacks can be contributed by an unhealthy/sedative lifestyle, Which is why weight is stigmatized. And I understand people are assholes but being overweight is fixable. just look at the content.
I realize I just went on a rant but you make a point and I'll take my red thumbs
#204 to #190 - JoshOwnsAll
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no prob on the rant, I've read worse.
#186 to #180 - anon
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--------the joke-------->




your head

#150 - lickingtinydonut
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#133 - FMLs
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my sister's friend has been one of the most active people i know for as long as i can remember. She eats right and doesn't spend much time just sitting around, but she has always been a very large girl. she's the rare 1 in 1001446 fat people that actually just cant lose weight The rest of y'all are just some lazy ***** I can say that because i'm a fat lazy **** too
#115 - kebabman
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(06/19/2014) [-]
I think Gervais got it pretty spot on
www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4YZiKbklAE
#106 - liamdurf
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(06/19/2014) [-]
The thing about exercise is that the more you do it the easier it gets.
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#342 - wooyoungkim
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I've been reading sources that tell me that it is absolutely true that genetics can be attributed to weight; however the same sources tell me that the roles shouldn't play such a big role to make you morbidly obese.

I'm pretty sure that losing weight may be slighltly more difficult, but not to the point that somebody needs to let themselves go so far that they need to be on a moving cart.

Can somebody who's an expert in genetics clarify this?

www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=1&art_id=20791&sc=801

Also, I've read EXTERMELY rare cases when genetics do impact somebody's weight.

I think the genetics-weight issue exists, but should not be used by lazy cows such as these to rationalize why they should stuff themselves with donuts and blame it on something else.
#354 to #342 - durkadurka
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Genetics doesn't have **** to do with energy expended versus energy consumed. If you eat less calories than what you use, you WILL lose weight. Genetics can make someone better at storing and using fat (I believe), determine your metabolism, etc, but it definitely doesn't make it impossible to lose weight. To use an extreme example: Nobody in the concentration camps remained fat.

It's true that genetics results in people of varying builds. It's perfectly normal for someone to be built a bit stockier, but it is NOT normal to have mountains of flab and fat. The difference is that the genetically determined shape isn't unhealthy: Some people just won't be skinny like models. And just for the record, I'm no expert, but it makes literally no sense for genes to EVER select for a body that literally cannot move itself very far without the assistance of ******* fat scooters.
#362 to #354 - wooyoungkim
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Z5U8TNEyU

It's Korean but the basic gist is (There are numerous parts to this video, this is one) that the doctors monitored his behavior and he only consumes about 2000 calories per day. This man has an intellectual disability, so it is highly unlikely that he schemed this whole situation up to get attention or get free medical treatment. The experts deemed that this was something that they never saw before and said it might have something to do with genetics (maybe it's a go-to excuse for anything unexplainable) but, I think in rare cases, these conditions exist, but not to the extent where peopel should be using them as excuses.

This man is morbidly obese, and can't even move on his own.

#371 to #362 - durkadurka
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I was going to mention that it's probably possible for a small number of people to "lose" the genetic lottery and wind up with a bad set of genes, but didn't for the sake of brevity. (In the same sense that some people also get genes that give them deformities, or even crippling disease. One example that comes to mind is the guy who didn't stop growing.

You're absolutely right that these genetic "malfunctions" do happen and can be the sole reason for obesity. Also, I feel really bad for the guy in your source because he just looks like he's suffering so much.
#374 to #371 - wooyoungkim
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I totally agree. I feel bad for people such as these, and I want to let people know that it is a possibility that things like this happen, but at the same time it angers me so much that lazy people just use it as an excuse to get on their scooters and pretend they have a crippling disability.
#360 to #354 - wooyoungkim
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Don't get me wrong, it appears like you think I'm actually cheering on this cows to rationalize why they should drive around in fat scooters.

I'm just curious how extreme rare genetic disorders are (since I did read that it did exist, again extremely rare) that actually contributes to somebody extremely obese.

I did remember there was one case in Korea when genetics did in fact play a role in somebody's weight (again, extremely rare) I'll try to find the source.
#318 - TheOriginalNerd
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(06/19/2014) [-]
these people are crazy

you can only hold as many calories as you put in, no other way around it
#317 - halathehuntress
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(06/19/2014) [-]
**halathehuntress rolled image** Why I'm fat.
#338 to #317 - anonymoose
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The death of that beautiful man.
#384 to #338 - halathehuntress
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(06/19/2014) [-]
I eat a gallon of ice cream every day.
#74 - carthos
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Then she's saying it's not true, that it's impossible for some. And that's nothing to do with previous laziness? I mean if you wait too long with exercising it's not genetics if it doesn't work, you're just too lazy
#46 - RageRambo ONLINE
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(06/19/2014) [-]
"Exercise is hard"

Nothing worth doing is easy. Yes it's hard, but you know what? I've lost 10 pounds because the people around me are being supportive. Hell, I've been running everyday for several months and just now am I beginning to lose weight. Complete strangers have come up to me and told me they've seen me out there running everyday and that it inspired them to do the same. I've seen some people you would call Land Whales out there walking everyday as well. They're seemingly making an effort to TRY.


Humans are naturally competitive. One of the many reason I support the Free Market system. But something similar can be used here. Get a friend to workout with you. You'll want to compete to beat them and they'll do the same. Almost everyone I know weighs less than 200 pounds and is in quite decent shape whereas I'm now at 210 and dropping. If you don't have friends. An MP3 player will also suffice.
#86 to #46 - pawnman
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I am just beginning to run, i am starting to run 3-4 days a week in between work. I just started getting shin splints and am trying to ice it down and run through it.

It really took you a few months to see the actual weight loss? and did you work on upper body as well?
#96 to #86 - RageRambo ONLINE
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I was experimenting with diets to find one that worked for me. I found one and now the weight is falling off. The first few weeks are always the hardest. After that it becomes habit and your body adjusts. I am going to start working on upper body a bit more when I lose some more weight.
#98 to #96 - pawnman
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I don't have much of diet yet. I just cut red meat and soda out. Now i mostly eat chicken and drink only water, milk and some Gatorade.
#164 to #98 - talldumbdork
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If you are really heavy, speed walking is recommended. Interval running may have less shin splints and burn more calories as well due to heart rate fluxuation. Good luck.
#174 to #164 - pawnman
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ya i am doing interval running and walking. I'm not HUGE but i have a big ole gut that i am getting sick of looking at.
#9 - khorneation
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(06/19/2014) [-]
mfw bitches say weight can't be lost.