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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #55 - revoll
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(04/26/2014) [-]
I love how everyone is posting about how low their debts are. The point is - There should be no debt to begin with.
User avatar #45 - hungryturtle
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The letters are actually just photoshopped there
User avatar #85 to #45 - dracolegacy
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are the numbers photoshopped too?
#268 - cumwhore
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User avatar #200 - Mastermaster
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That's sad, especially when Universities in brazil are either free or way cheaper
#132 - gatodelfuego
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MFW my american school pays me to study here
MFW my american school pays me to study here
User avatar #248 to #132 - satansferret
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Grad student by chance or financial aid in CC?
User avatar #269 to #248 - gatodelfuego
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Full tuition + engineering stipend from my university
User avatar #270 to #269 - satansferret
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Oooh, that's for living expenses silly. Part of a scholarship/award to support a student. It's not really being paid.
User avatar #272 to #270 - gatodelfuego
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No, they give me a $2500 check at the end of the year!

Living expenses are a bit more expensive but w/e I have other scholarships for that.
User avatar #125 - mistafishy
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I'm a triplet... going to college... with two siblings also going to college... ****...
User avatar #121 - zombiestookmybike
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i'll graduate with £28.5k, and that's just fees. i haven't even counted living expenses..
#135 to #121 - jonodillieono
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why is yours 9.5k a year when it's capped at 9k?

or are you doing a masters that only costs 1.5k?
User avatar #137 to #135 - zombiestookmybike
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at my university they offer a professional training year (PTY) with every degree. i do two years of my degree, go for my PTY and then complete my degree. even though its mostly us finding our own placement and working for a year, the university still monitors your progress, comes to visit you to make sure you're happy and everything's okay, and they help you organise it. apparently that's worth £1.5k.
#138 to #137 - jonodillieono
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Ah, I thought you got paid for your industry year and didn't have to pay anything towards it but clearly not. Thanks
User avatar #139 to #138 - zombiestookmybike
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about one third of placements available are paid positions, the others are voluntary. the paid positions we have to work 50 weeks and don't get a summer either side of the year, with unpaid positions we work the same time as term time at university. i assume we're paying the university to support us if we have any issues with the placement etc
#98 - doktorwhat
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they all look Asian. My debt after 4 years was 80,000 USD, and I got around 45% scholarship! To be fair, around 20,000 USD was just living expenses, but still...
#96 - anon id: daf41b6d
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0$, I'm not a plebian
User avatar #253 to #96 - satansferret
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Plebian was used correctly here...
User avatar #64 - trojandetected
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Uk college master race = no debt
User avatar #65 to #64 - tzukaza
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uk got debt but you dont have to pay it back unless you earn a certain amount a year
User avatar #67 to #65 - trojandetected
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True but if you are under 18 college is free.
#103 to #67 - doktorwhat
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if you are under 18 anywhere in the world, you are not old enough for college.
User avatar #120 to #103 - RealRune
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I think he means college as in post-GCSE education that is not a sixth-form.
Usually do BTECs and AS/A-levels.

In the UK, and anywhere else I've been tbh they don't call universities colleges.
Precisely because of this confusion.

On another note you're technically wrong. You can get accepted at any age.
At least my mother was offered a place at Oxford when she was 16.
#158 to #120 - doktorwhat
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you mean a trade school? I'm way too lazy to look up all those letters.
User avatar #159 to #158 - RealRune
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Eh, kinda.
It varies a little in different parts of the country 'cus some places don't have proper sixth forms so the college does both.
It's an option for whatever you happen to do after you're done with education at 16 but before uni (if you go there).
User avatar #68 to #67 - tzukaza
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ah thats new to me sorry ^^'
#11 - anon id: 7386655b
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The top corporations and universities make sure American students stay in debt. It's quite easily actually:
Corporations require people to have college degrees to get jobs.
Universities make the college prices high, forcing students to take huge loans to study.
When they've graduated they're in huge debt, and they have to repay this debt somehow.
How? They have to take jobs at corporations, no matter how badly paid these positions are.
Corporations win. Universtities win. The average student loses.
#18 to #11 - mayoroftownsville
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Degrees are just as required if not more in western Europe, but universities are cheap because the government actually invests in education.
#19 to #11 - bann
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I'm pretty sure you would take a job that paid more money reguardless
#25 to #11 - allamericandude
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Except that's not how it works.

Corporations don't all require degrees. What percentage of McDonald's or WalMart workers do you think have degrees? They just require it for high-paying or specialty positions (like, I would prefer my aircraft designers and heart surgeons to know what the **** they are doing.) But you can work your whole life without a degree, and you can become quite successful without a degree. Just don't expect it to come easy.

And universities don't "make" the prices high. The prices are forced high by the market. But there are so many opportunities for financial aid out there that if you don't receive at least some support for college then you probably aren't trying hard enough.
#173 - anon id: 6888f248
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I work graveyard shift at UPS. The pay is okay, the union benefits are good, and i get to go to a public university (uofl) for free as long as i dont fail a class (then i just pay for that class). Its really not that bad, i get to experience the real college experience, and i am debt free. So really its not like the options arent out there, just people dont apply themselves/arent responsible, which is fine, just don't complain about debt until you have exhausted all options
#221 to #173 - anon id: c84a694e
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You're assuming other people haven't already tried options like that.
#127 - pariahlol
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Full ride *****, I actually have left over scholarship money in the end
User avatar #126 - tiredofthis
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I went to technical school. Pay about 300-400 buck a semester and I'm almost certainly going to have a job when I get out.

Feels good man.
User avatar #115 - ancano
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i'll graduate with about 12,000. people are bitches i guess
User avatar #37 - Soviet Savior
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Do what i do, get it done cheap. I live in CA,, college is ~4 year thing. go the first 2 years at a community college, about $2800 total, final 2 years at csu college. they give scholarships for anything, get one. cost for last 2 years was about $6200 if you're a state resident. get the easiest degree you can other than art or music, most companies dont care what you have it in as long as you do.
User avatar #36 - sursum
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I feel as if a major factor in poverty for young people is that they have kids far too early, before they can realistically handle the financial stress, its always the indebted young family with like 6 kids.
User avatar #62 to #36 - amuzen
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Well for me its because (Or would be if not for various financial aids I received from personal reasons) a full times jobs annual amount is about 23k, a year of rent is 8.4k, a years food is 1.8k, a years tuition is 12k, a years household expenses is 2k, a years school supplies is 1.5k (special its more than usual for my kind of program since I needed an art tablet, a computer strong enough to run Zbrush, and 8 different 50 dollar books)
meaning even if I was working 8 hours a day on top of the 8 hours of school I have every day and 2 hours of commute (which is unrealistic since then i would only have 6 hours for sleep +any commute time for work and taking care of the house+my schools time tables are super erractic so it would be hard to find a job that could let me work full time in the first place) I would still only be making 23k a year and spending 26k a year on basic upkeep not counting any luxuries like games, trips out of town, internet, cellphone, christmas presents, clothes, etc.

like, it's just not realistic for people to go through all of college without either going into debt or turning to some external source of income like family, financial aid or debt.
User avatar #80 to #62 - sursum
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I'm aware of the financial stress of college, which s why I question the intellect of those who have a kid or multiple kids without ensuring the financial means to support it.
User avatar #32 - thebluejakel
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Thank god i got the GI Bill for school, I'd never want to do ******* student loans.
#21 - anon id: dc1848da
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i never bothered with college and i make 35k a year thats good enough for me
#26 to #21 - anon id: 6d1f5bcb
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Thats not very much
User avatar #30 to #21 - fisttourface
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Thats enough to live a meh single life or a poor life with a family.
User avatar #43 to #30 - charagrin
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Depends on where you are located, here in Maine I was making 32K a year while going to college, and I have a family. I also own 2 homes, 2 cars, an ATV, a boat, etc. maybe not the most expensive options, but I have them. Of course in NY city, 32k wouldn't get you an apartment, let alone everything else needed just to survive. hence why I said depends on where you are located.
#12 - epodax
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Gotta looooooooove getting paid for getting an' education.. Want to become a doctor? Here's some cash... Want to be a teacher... Here's some cash...
#15 to #12 - morbidbarracuda
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are you also living in Denmark? it is sweet socialist heaven
#78 to #15 - epodax
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yep