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User avatar #4582 - zanekin (08/27/2014) [-]
Has anyone read "The Left Hand of God" by Paul Hoffman
if so thoughts?
#4594 to #4582 - magnusmaiolriain (08/30/2014) [-]
It was alright
User avatar #4581 - joancod (08/26/2014) [-]
So bookworms, I've a little issue with the book I'm writing (it's not some stuff I have just started, already 2 years working on consistent lore, world, geography...) Also I just kept changing stuff on the plot to make it interesting, and trying to avoid as much fantasy cliches I can.

Anyways, the MC is just immortal (yet no invincible) guy with 900 years on his back (maybe more): his main quest is not to save to world, but to turn his wife immortal, at any cost (she's in a suspended state of sleep, frozen in a dragon cementery). Anyways, with like, one thousand years of life, I find myself conflicted about his fidelity. It's not a white-knight character, because he does good and bad things just according his interests, saves cities or sacrifices great numbers of people if that goes fine with his plan.

But the point of being infidel (not a womanizer) with other women drives me mad: on one way it makes a more "humane" character, but on the other... well, his image gets also damaged, even more.

Any thoughts?
User avatar #4601 to #4581 - newvein ONLINE (08/31/2014) [-]
Why not let him partake in pleasures of the flesh with other women? Keep it strictly physical with them, save the emotional love making for his true girl.

If this guy if some sort of god like being, maybe he's discovered ways to become intimate with others in ways that transcend traditional sexual acts. He's been around for a while; no doubt it's a little tough to get it up with everyday sex. Perhaps literally merging mind/body with that special someone to become as close as possible physically and emotionally is how they can truly express their love.
User avatar #4606 to #4601 - joancod (08/31/2014) [-]
Well, he's a regular dude (in his ancient civilization people could manipulate fire, but that's it) that many ages ago obtained immortality for pure luck. I'm trying to not turn him a Mary Sue, but more of a selfish awkward coward but still an idealizing romantic that has moments of courage. But the idea of him reserving the emotional love was already in my thoughts.
User avatar #4598 to #4581 - viviannjames (08/31/2014) [-]
Your story sounds very similar to Elric of Melnibone
User avatar #4607 to #4598 - joancod (08/31/2014) [-]
The story and lore are a tribute to Elric and Turin (all antiheroes, black swords, dark fate), but yeah, I get what you are saying.
Still, I'm trying to differenciate Elric and my MC (and the story of course):
Elric is already a powerful individual, who gets stronger by the ages, Emperor of Melnibone and that through good intentions brings the world to its end. My character is just this, a little spot in history that has had it's little peaks here and there (once he is king, just to see his little kingdom fall to ruins) but as time passes he just becomes weaker and less powerful: still young in appearance, but an old man inside. Plus he keeps all the wounds that he recieves, he's deaf on one ear, he lost two fingers, etc etc. He keeps surviving because he doesn't puts himself in danger.
Also his love interest and the one of Elric are quite different: Elric's cousin is more a damsel in distress, while the wife of my character is a way better fighter than him, a dragonslayer and with more chances to be considered a hero. Regarding his enemy, while being Yyrkoon (or whatever it's called) for Elric a purely "chaotic-evil" character, while I made my main antagonist a truly "good" character, who does what he does to bring peace, etc etc, but his plans go against MC ones.

Elric and Turin acts are heroic and have good intentions, but end up with tragedy.
MC says "fuck fate and prophecies" and basically does what everyone else does: protect his interests.
User avatar #4608 to #4607 - viviannjames (08/31/2014) [-]
So you want him to cheat ? Have him do a mistake or something
but you're trying to avoid cliches , Cheating is one of the most common cliches out there for a story.
User avatar #4609 to #4608 - joancod (08/31/2014) [-]
I'm trying to make him not a typical fantasy hero, nor a typical antihero ("conan"), but someone who commits errors and has flaws.
Yeah, I get that cheating is one hell of a big cliche, that's what I was asking help about. But also let's consider this: if not being a white-knight-paladin-demigod of good god of sunlight, who, regardless of their ethics and morals, remorse and love, wouldn't fall to temptation once or twice in a thousand years, given that they lived that long.
Even the greatest heroes can be weak sometimes.
User avatar #4610 to #4609 - viviannjames (08/31/2014) [-]
Like maybe someone who looks and acts a lot like his wife but she's mortal. He keeps going back to her because he is lonely, along the lines she either die or does something mortal things do and then he feels regret and shame and asks his wife for forgiveness.
User avatar #4611 to #4610 - joancod (08/31/2014) [-]
That's quite what I thought, for him to find someone very alike, but to end up remembering that without him, his wife will stay forever more frozen, waiting for him, also lonely, while the other lover can still find someone else to spend life with.

The idea was to maybe turn her into a late antagonist, who also lives a long time just to get vengeance on MC/MC's wife, maybe just for jealousy. But yes, I think also that MC should feel shame and remorse for his acts.
User avatar #4612 to #4611 - viviannjames (08/31/2014) [-]
That revenge one is also another big cliche. and not a good one too!
I suggest you avoid it, make characters more than one dimensional, people forgive and forget.
User avatar #4614 to #4612 - joancod (08/31/2014) [-]
I knew that the revenge obsessive stuff was cliche and probably I will change it, but the point is that if I include a love affair, that character will probably not have a lot of impact for the story or the events, aka. just create it to make the MC cheat on his wife. It would be interesting for the character to have some later importance to the plot.
The idea I had was:
1-MC+lover at some point of his long life meet for a short time before he feels too guilty to continue with her; 2-while MC keeps going on his quest, the lover ends up serving as a willinful host for the evil entity that has been threatening the world and the MC, even before he became immortal (here is the weak point in which I wanted to work more, you are totally right, it is a huge and ugly cliche); 3-at the conclusion, she turns out the last villain

But with your observations I have a rough idea: at point 2 she commits the same acts (offers herself to the creature in order to become immortal) but as time passes she ends up forgiving him, and at point 3 she turns out to be his last ally (but this also sounds like quite cliche)

This needs a lot more of work.
#4585 to #4581 - wittypotato ONLINE (08/28/2014) [-]
I suppose having him dabble and then feel guilty about it and not seen him self as worthy of her for a while seems like a valid option. It lends realism to his character in my opinion. If not, having him cheat would seem a lot more mature.

Eh, I'd take my advice with a grain of salt. My plots tend to turn out to be shit.
User avatar #4587 to #4585 - joancod (08/28/2014) [-]
I ended up seriously considering making him cheat on her just once, and making his lover become a later obssessed villain who also lived through the ages.
(the main "enemy" in here are nor dragons or necromancers, but a hivemind creature that comes from a really deep oceanic trench. It just infects her let say it lives in her skin but she offers willingly to that infection, so MC would have to face regret directly much years after)

Thanks for the opinion anyways.
User avatar #4588 to #4587 - wittypotato ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
Eh, I try to help when I can. That universe sounds pretty interestIng
User avatar #4580 - herecomesjohnny (08/26/2014) [-]
So, i don't read fantasy much.

But I did read David Gemmell's Knights of Dark Renown novel on vacation, which I found good, except for its abrupt ending even though the thing's 480 pages. Not as good as Legend which is the best medieval book I ever read (also with the company of liars), but still better than Morningstar, which was...okay.

Gemmell thread? anyone else ever read the guy's books?
#4578 - dethfreezy (08/25/2014) [-]
Do any of you bros know where I could download/torrent textbooks from?
I'm looking for Wellness: Concepts and Applications 8th edition specifically.
Piratebay came up empty.

Pic related
#4572 - albertspeer (08/23/2014) [-]
Hello empty board, I am currently in the process of writing a novel but I am vexed about the genre that I have implemented. Basically I have combined a fantasy world (Elves, centaurs etc.) with a sci-fi high-tech world (lasers, railguns etc.) and I'm concerned whether this works, or if it's just a fuck-up waiting to happen.
Any thoughts about this? Am I committing a cosmic crime?
User avatar #4579 to #4572 - skydiving (08/25/2014) [-]
It'd be interesting, and it isn't something that's written about a lot.
User avatar #4574 to #4572 - joancod (08/24/2014) [-]
Give a watch at Shadowrun, Warmachine, Warhammer.
If you at least do it well, it shouldn't be a problem.
User avatar #4575 to #4574 - joancod (08/24/2014) [-]
In a novel I've been working on for almost 2 years, my elves are divided in two great races:
1.Steampunkish jews, air merchants with renaissance elements, crossbows, art and flying ships.
2.Tribal cannibalistic crazies, who worship an sleeping old creature as the "cleansing jaws" that will devour the world and humanity, cities and everything that is not natural and primal.
They wear near to nothing, paint themselves like the picts and wield stone weapons. And eat people.

I'm pretty satisfied with them both.
User avatar #4576 to #4575 - joancod (08/24/2014) [-]
I don't know why I posted this here, btw.
User avatar #4573 to #4572 - multidimensional (08/23/2014) [-]
Do it, at the very least it will be a interesting new twist.
User avatar #4571 - feelythefeel (08/23/2014) [-]
There was once a man from New Hampshire,
He was a stripper for hire.
But every now and again,
He'd meet kinky friends,
And he'd set his pubes on fire.
User avatar #4570 - winners (08/22/2014) [-]
my friend just came out with a book. "Paused" by bryan keating. just thought I should tell book peeps at FJ
User avatar #4565 - simmen (08/22/2014) [-]
Not sure if this is the right place for this.. but might as well try.

I'm gonna try to teach myself the .net platform as a side project in college. What books would you recomend?
User avatar #4554 - ubisoft (08/22/2014) [-]
holy ducks no one ere
User avatar #4556 to #4554 - pixmantle (08/22/2014) [-]
No, wait, shit, I'm here!
Let's eh, let's discuss... BOOKS! You start.
User avatar #4557 to #4556 - ubisoft (08/22/2014) [-]
Well.. The Warrior Cat series use to be my all time favorite.
User avatar #4558 to #4557 - pixmantle (08/22/2014) [-]
Oh, yeah, I read that series. Kind of stopped after the next couple generations in the books. Got kind of repetitive.
User avatar #4559 to #4558 - ubisoft (08/22/2014) [-]
Yes it did like Gen 3 with the kits of I think Graystripe or something like that. It's been a long time since I read that.
User avatar #4560 to #4559 - pixmantle (08/22/2014) [-]
What other book can you think of that's so insanely popular, we might both have read it?
User avatar #4561 to #4560 - ubisoft (08/22/2014) [-]
uhhhhh dang dood its been long time since I read actually and I LOVED reading like alot. But like Eragon was my fav and the book where it had dragons it and it was about a tennant staying at a magic place where there were dragons and he turned into a polar bear. I forgot.
User avatar #4562 to #4561 - pixmantle (08/22/2014) [-]
Oh, I still have that series lying around somewhere, I never read it though, I think because years ago my little brother got really into it, and thus I didn't want to associate with it.
User avatar #4563 to #4562 - ubisoft (08/22/2014) [-]
Mmm well buddy I am actually gon go to bed now its been a nice short chat but I am really tired. Night
User avatar #4564 to #4563 - pixmantle (08/22/2014) [-]
L8er alig8er.
User avatar #4551 - theguywhoaskswhy (08/21/2014) [-]
Anyone have any idea when the next King Killer Chronicle book will be released? Just curious, can't find anything online...
User avatar #4623 to #4551 - lillpip (09/01/2014) [-]
No idea. Looking forward to it though.
#4548 - mr skeltal (08/20/2014) [-]
As a battalion returned home from a victorious confrontation they decided to make use of the enemy's spoils in a chariot race. Little did they know the enemy sabotaged their own vehicles. The reveried horseman Aggro Colossus secured his steed to the insidious cart his friend and rival Keton Airss did the same. Keton challenged his superior to the race to take his place as leader of the horsemen. Only a coward, that should never be their leader, would refuse. The evening sun shimmered as they rode to the startline. A deep silence spread across the area; they were ready. The shouts of men rang out as the racers fired forward. It was a true show of skill, each man neck and neck fighting for victory. Then it all went wrong.
#4549 to #4548 - mr skeltal (08/20/2014) [-]
At their peak speed a snap could be heard through all of Sparta.The two men’s inside wheels splintered and fell apart. Despite all their effort to remain in control Keton and Aggro were catapulted off the compromised chariots. They both suffered a great deal of injury, but our medics say they are most likely to recover in a few weeks. After an investigation the sabotage was discovered and the perpetrators were captured. They will be put to death at the hands of Keton and Aggro. I can not imagine a worse fate.
#4546 - sassguardian (08/20/2014) [-]
I'm looking for some thought-provoking fictional books and series that I can get into. The genre is irreverent, though I've found fantasy, action and science fiction to be more to my liking. Any thanks is appreciated!
User avatar #4624 to #4546 - lillpip (09/01/2014) [-]
The kind that kind of unravel as it goes on?
User avatar #4599 to #4546 - viviannjames (08/31/2014) [-]
Revelation Space.
User avatar #4566 to #4546 - megapepsifreak (08/22/2014) [-]
the curious incident of the dog in the night time
#4555 to #4546 - skydiving (08/22/2014) [-]
If you didn't read it in school.
User avatar #4547 to #4546 - sassguardian (08/20/2014) [-]
*Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
#4543 - DontDeleteMeAgain (08/20/2014) [-]
I know I'm way behind on this, but I just started diving into The Walking Dead comic books, and holy shit, this stuff has way more tension than the tv show. I was holding my breath throughout Michonne's revenge. Amazing read.
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User avatar #4536 - ablueguy (08/20/2014) [-]
Could someone recommend me some books on history, or classic literature IE Marcus Aurelius or old Greek Philosophers, just not Platos Rebublic, I've read that one. .
User avatar #4545 to #4536 - ljxjlos (08/20/2014) [-]
I´m taking the risk of sounding like a weeaboo, but I found the Book of Five Rings to be a fantastic read. Actually many asian philopsophers are damn interesting, even if you don´t agree witht their philosophies.
User avatar #4539 to #4536 - grogovic (08/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #4535 - gayobliteratorhere (08/20/2014) [-]
This account will be deleted
User avatar #4527 - dsendz ONLINE (08/18/2014) [-]
or hell even one with a bunch of teenagers fucking around with the risk of war around them.

futuristic please
User avatar #4552 to #4527 - theguywhoaskswhy (08/21/2014) [-]
"Shades Children" - Garth Nix
User avatar #4544 to #4527 - dsendz ONLINE (08/20/2014) [-]
I just now realised I didn't reply to my other comment
User avatar #4540 to #4527 - grogovic (08/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #4526 - dsendz ONLINE (08/18/2014) [-]
Does anyone have a suggestion for a book set in post apocalyptic times with just a bunch of teenagers fucking around.
User avatar #4529 to #4526 - youngneil ONLINE (08/19/2014) [-]
Would The Enemy by Charlie Higson count? It's a zombie apocalypse thing, where everyone but the kids gets infected. Also, the Enclave books are good, but they get kinda Hunger Games-ey. The Furnace series is about kids getting put into this really fucked up prison, and it deserves a read.
User avatar #4531 to #4529 - finblob (08/19/2014) [-]
What happens when the kids become adults?
User avatar #4534 to #4531 - dasistwunderbar (08/19/2014) [-]
Difficult to tell you the deets without spoilers, the idea is because they're all kids they know shit all about the disease
User avatar #4533 to #4531 - youngneil ONLINE (08/19/2014) [-]
So far, nothing. I think the age of the youngest zombies was about 15, and when one of the kids made it to 15 nothing happened.
User avatar #4523 - thesunpraiser (08/18/2014) [-]
Oi. Favorite books? I need a couple suggestions.
User avatar #4553 to #4523 - theguywhoaskswhy (08/21/2014) [-]
The Name of the Wind - Patrick Rothfuss
User avatar #4537 to #4523 - ablueguy (08/20/2014) [-]
Brave New World by Huxley, and 1984 by George Orwell.
User avatar #4532 to #4523 - finblob (08/19/2014) [-]
Skulduggery Pleasant.
#4525 to #4523 - anonmaverick (08/18/2014) [-]
sphere by michael chriton or john ringo has a new series starts with one called under a graveyard sky
#4515 - mr skeltal (08/17/2014) [-]
Trainspotting - Irvine Welsh | Unabridged Audiobook

Anons what do you think about Trainspotting?
#4528 to #4515 - mr skeltal (08/19/2014) [-]
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