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User avatar #11 - useroftheLOLZ (12/19/2013) [-]
>Russia
>Into Military power
***** please, all of Russia's force is forced conscription, they have some of the highest defection rates, and some of the highest inter homicide rates, meaning that the hazing is so bad in the Russian military, they're killing each other. Russia's military is also corrupt as hell, hell, many recruiters are bribed by teenagers so that they don't have to be conscripted. Much of their Armor and Ordnance is old as hell, though I must admit, their Special Forces are hard core as **** .
#13 to #11 - thegreenbutton (12/19/2013) [-]
Thing is they dont care how many people they lose in order to win
User avatar #15 to #13 - hydraetis ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
Which allowed them to kick Germany's ass using ****** equipment, which only half their army had the luck of using.
User avatar #18 to #15 - ramie (12/19/2013) [-]
No it was the winter and lack of supplies and Germany fighting 3 fronts that allowed them to kick Germany's ass. Germany took over half of Russia in under 6 months...until winter hit.
User avatar #247 to #18 - hydraetis ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
They never made it to Moscow, and Moscow is not even 1/4 of the way into Russia.
User avatar #322 to #15 - redthumbmaster (12/19/2013) [-]
Russia had the most casualties though.
User avatar #340 to #322 - hydraetis ONLINE (12/20/2013) [-]
That's... Kind of the point of the discussion.
User avatar #205 to #13 - useroftheLOLZ (12/19/2013) [-]
The Russians don't really "win", they just stretch out the war so long, that the opposite side can't fight anymore. It's called Pyrrhic victory. Pit the Russians against a force that has decent supplies, and logistics, and they will lose.
User avatar #216 to #205 - dimppa ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
Any war US has been since ww2*
#19 to #13 - therealsupanova (12/19/2013) [-]
what good is winning is half your working age population is dead
#354 to #19 - ramie (12/24/2013) [-]
Exactly
Exactly
User avatar #85 to #11 - tonyxx (12/19/2013) [-]
The Russians are the worlds toughest ************* that I have ever had the opportunity to see, and their weapons are nigh indestructible.
User avatar #282 - danmanjonesnz (12/19/2013) [-]
I wish we were on our own. USA ***** everything up, not least of which is the TPP.
#292 to #282 - mvlsuds (12/19/2013) [-]
Except not
User avatar #293 to #292 - danmanjonesnz (12/19/2013) [-]
even Cuba beat the U.S.
User avatar #315 to #293 - heartlessrobot (12/19/2013) [-]
No, we never officially fought. If we fought Cuba, there wouldn't be a Cuba anymore.
User avatar #307 to #293 - nitsuan (12/19/2013) [-]
When did the US and Cuba ever fight?
User avatar #333 to #323 - nitsuan (12/20/2013) [-]
I was thinking that, but then I realized that the Bay of Pigs hardly constituted as a war. It was a CIA funded operation using Cuban exiles as soldiers aimed at killing Castro. If it were an actual war Cuba would not have stood a chance
User avatar #353 to #333 - olinerocks ONLINE (12/23/2013) [-]
I just figured it was the closest thing to fighting that we did. Good enough.
#310 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
ITT: Many people bitching about Brits bitching about America, despite the fact there is no evidence of Brtis bitching about America...

Seriously why do you guys love to hate us.
#313 to #310 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
No evidence? Look on literally ANY America related post here on FJ and read the comments.
#236 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
Couldn't be more inaccurate, why are amerifag 9 year olds making these comics like they have a ******* clue about how strong a countries defense budget is.
As for "everything we've done for you".

1, Provide weapons in WW2

2. .... Can't think of anything else.

As if Russia is even slightly of concern.

User avatar #245 to #236 - uzbekistan ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
Found the butthurt eurofag
User avatar #176 - shemaledong (12/19/2013) [-]
The EU could **** up Russia`s economy so badly, they won`t be able to actually pay their soldiers.
They need us more than we need them.
User avatar #202 to #176 - Jackimole (12/19/2013) [-]
Yeah, yeah, screw the enemy economically! That worked in the past with the Treaty of Versailles right? The Germans weren't extremely resentful about the reparations tanking their economy, right?

What's the worst the country with the most nuclear weapons in the world could do?
#204 to #202 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
i think you do not understand how highly russia is vulnerable to the europeans shutting down the gas pipelines.
it would actually mean starvation.
but neither side has an interest in a conflict.
#217 to #204 - valeriya (12/19/2013) [-]
>Shut down gaspipe lines to Russia
>Freeze and industry in europe grinds to a halt.

Russia for the last few years has turned off the gas pipes citing Ukrainian corruption and it's Europe that suffers when this happens.
#220 to #217 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
europe has other sources of gas. it would get more expensive, but they wouldn't run out of it.
you shouldn't confuse russias economic power over ukraine with that over france, germany or the UK.
User avatar #207 to #204 - Jackimole (12/19/2013) [-]
Obviously neither side has an interest in conflict.

Germans were starving after WWI. All I'm saying is that if the EU decided to gang up, and severely economically punish Russia, they'd just be setting themselves up for a fourth Reich. They probably wouldn't call themselves that, but you get my point.
#214 to #207 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
while germany was still an economic powerhouse even during the weimar times and had, oh see an economic partner called sowjetunion, russia is highly dependet on imports as their industry still lies in shatters. they cannot fourth reich, because you need an economic foundation for that.
User avatar #228 to #214 - Jackimole (12/19/2013) [-]
There wasn't much of a economic foundation in the weimar republic, unemployment and inflation were both incredibly high. Hitler turned the economy around by creating an economic foundation for Germany. He built factories, gave out loans, and spent heavily on public works projects. Plus, you can't really stop buying gas from Russia if they invade you.
#230 to #228 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
you seem to lack knowledge about the german economy. it is true, that just after the war, especially by the physical reparations the allies took from them, the german economy was down, but that simply isn't true for the late weimar republic. and even an german industry in crisis was outshining most other industries on the continent.
Hitler did nothing but building a giant snowballsystem wich in the end ruined the german economy, wich was rising again when he took over (the autobahn for example was allready planed in the weimar republic).
User avatar #250 to #230 - Jackimole (12/19/2013) [-]
It's true, I'm not much of an expert on the German economy, kinda learning as I go along, worst case I make an ass of myself on the internet, but learn something.

I don't think the German economy was doing so hot when Hitler took over, as the great depression was in full swing. Unemployment was skyrocketing, and GNP was plummeting when Hitler took over.

I don't think Hitler destroyed the economy as much as the invasion and destruction of Germany.
User avatar #234 to #202 - shadesofbacon (12/19/2013) [-]
There is a difference between forcing reperations and economically isolating a country
User avatar #235 to #234 - Jackimole (12/19/2013) [-]
Yes, but isolating Russia economically would still piss off the people, and make them tend towards extremist politics.
User avatar #179 to #176 - mcshwagger (12/19/2013) [-]
PAY THEM IN MORE VODKA!
#129 - tazze ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
except there isn't a real reason for japan to spend more money on defense since their military is limited by some 						********					 they had to sign after WWII
except there isn't a real reason for japan to spend more money on defense since their military is limited by some ******** they had to sign after WWII
User avatar #181 to #129 - mcshwagger (12/19/2013) [-]
Japan is already increasing it's military spending which has been justified by the recent development of china declaring air rights over some of japan's historical islands for more info read here : www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1383903/japan-boost-military-spending-china-row-simmers
User avatar #306 to #129 - nitsuan (12/19/2013) [-]
Their military is limited to a self defense force. It is up to Japan to decide what is necessary in its defense, so upping the spending to make it better is perfectly logical and within the bounds of their pacifist constitution.
User avatar #149 to #129 - brisineo (12/19/2013) [-]
Japan and SK have been recently talking about reestablishing their militaries from paranoia of North Korea or China doing something stupid. Heck, even Japan, which censored anything nuclear related 10 years ago is thinking of getting some of their own.

Granted, the US still probably would back most of their defense for a long time still, but they probably are wanting a bit more of a deterrent for their missile-happy neighbors.
User avatar #133 to #129 - playerdous (12/19/2013) [-]
That agreement also states that we are now their military power.
#198 to #133 - flarenight ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
i think the whole japan cant have a military and we will protect them thing expired in 2010. so japan can have its own military and everything now.
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#352 - edgecutter (12/21/2013) [-]
Think this might be handy someday.
#304 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
**anonymous rolled a random image posted in comment #6840529 at Safe For Work Random Board **   
mfw
**anonymous rolled a random image posted in comment #6840529 at Safe For Work Random Board **
mfw
#302 - gerfox (12/19/2013) [-]
This is what would've happened if De Gaulle had gotten his will in the 60's. A Europe independent of the US. Surely to be ********** by Russia.
#287 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
**anonymous rolled a random image posted in comment #456 at let me into your mind **
mfw
#269 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
It's okay, Ruskie. You can't wage war just yet. Give it a decade or two and then we'll speak.
#257 - stenchschleifs (12/19/2013) [-]
A new Sovjet you say?
#252 - iyellatstuff (12/19/2013) [-]
Mfw Japan and Korea are too butthurt at each other to care about China, Russia, or North Korea.
Mfw Japan and Korea are too butthurt at each other to care about China, Russia, or North Korea.
User avatar #226 - thebestpieever ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
Well, Russia's military isn't worth a damn right now. They are poor, most of their military is older than the average in the rest of the world and there are reasons to believe they lie about their military expenses.

Anyhow, they still have enough bombs to make sure no building in Europe is left standing.
User avatar #161 - huszti (12/19/2013) [-]
just to get this straight. you are getting tired of people/posts bashing america? imagine how polish people or germans must feel.
User avatar #128 - rhiaanor ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
It's amazing how europeans on here complain about America, but I'm pretty certain that without it they might not even be here today. At least not as a britain of frenchman.
User avatar #102 - northleech (12/19/2013) [-]
"Glad this 1 isn't bashing on america I'm getting tired of those jokes."
That's why I still like the jokes, because they get so many butthurt comments.
User avatar #67 - notpolite (12/19/2013) [-]
Isn't France like really building up the army?
#86 to #67 - Womens Study Major (12/19/2013) [-]
it's only to help the conflicts in arabia, maghreb and all that. European countries are much less concerned of the anti-american sentiment in other countries and resort much less to war contracting, so policing and going to war internationally is definitely not on the EU agenda. Europe's biggest safety net is its economic bonds
User avatar #10 - gayobliteratorhere (12/19/2013) [-]
But there still there
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