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User avatar #215 - theaceofthespade (11/11/2013) [-]
This *sounds* incredibly racist, but I assume what OP is actually referring to would be things like affirmative action, which seak to create equality of outcome?
#219 to #215 - itsbendingtime (11/11/2013) [-]
Affirmative action is racist.
Nobody should be given any extra help or leg ups because of their race.
Everyone should be left to succeed or fail based on personal merit alone.
User avatar #222 to #219 - theaceofthespade (11/11/2013) [-]
Equality of outcome is impossible, and most things which seak to directly create it usually suffer the same pitfalls they're trying to solve.
#223 to #222 - itsbendingtime (11/11/2013) [-]
well put.
User avatar #221 to #219 - theaceofthespade (11/11/2013) [-]
I agree
#368 - mr skeltal (11/13/2013) [-]
thats what equality means >< . accepting the diffrent aspects of others and seeing them AS an equal.
User avatar #322 - lickdeeznuts (11/11/2013) [-]
We are only equal under law. Just because we should treat others like we are the same, that doesnt mean we are.
User avatar #314 - racetothebottom (11/11/2013) [-]
u r a facking artard if u think equality has anything to do with stifling differences
User avatar #316 to #314 - racetothebottom (11/11/2013) [-]
4got 2 say " ****** " and "faggot"
#258 - weenieandthebutt (11/11/2013) [-]
People should be equal regardless of identity such as race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion and gender (though there are a few biological differences but still shouldn't be restricted from certain rights and opportunities). But equality obviously breaks down when you're taking non-inheritable traits such as intellect of physical fitness into account.
People should be equal regardless of identity such as race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion and gender (though there are a few biological differences but still shouldn't be restricted from certain rights and opportunities). But equality obviously breaks down when you're taking non-inheritable traits such as intellect of physical fitness into account.
User avatar #271 to #258 - lotengo (11/11/2013) [-]
so intellect and physica fitness are non--inheritable ?
User avatar #274 to #271 - weenieandthebutt (11/11/2013) [-]
They may be inheritable just to a certain extent but otherwise, they're usually earned and they're not just some social constructivism trait. I would favour the muscular person over a skinny person for manual labour based jobs, I'd favour the more intellect over mentally-challenging based jobs etc. I believe race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, relgion and gender are equal on hierarchical grounds but I refuse to accept that we should lower standards to cater for unfit or stupid people.
User avatar #278 to #274 - lotengo (11/11/2013) [-]
i totally agree with that. But i do think that both intellect an physical fitness are ineritable.

If arnold schwarzenegger and Hulk Hogan made a love child u probably get a bulked up baby.
If Madame Curie did the do with Charles Darwin u probably get a smart kid.

And if honey boo-boo would reproduce (lets hope that never happens) u probably get a fat retard
User avatar #286 to #278 - weenieandthebutt (11/11/2013) [-]
I disagree with what you said (you still need to work for it) but regardless of whether it's inheritable of not, my point is that people who of all ends of the intellect and fitness spectrum should not be perceived as equals. Fat people should not be beauty models and be more regarded as attractive as fit people and dumb people should not receive the same praise or attention as smart people.
#277 - stickandmove (11/11/2013) [-]
Should we be DIFFERENT from one another or UNEQUAL?

This is some pretty dumb **** . :l
#267 - turtlespear (11/11/2013) [-]
OP has the right idea. Delighting in each other's differences, rather than trying to hide them by claiming we are all equal or hating each other for them, is the only move that can be of lasting benefit.
User avatar #255 - CodeUltra (11/11/2013) [-]
Where have I heard this before.... Code Geass Emperor speech(English)
#248 - riddari (11/11/2013) [-]
I get what op is going at here (or at least I suppose I do), but my position is that there is a base-line level of equal rights everyone should have and if we truly establish that world-wide, the question is: what those rights will be (and no, I do not think that the declaration of human rights suffices).
User avatar #247 - tehlulzbringer (11/11/2013) [-]
some people are better and more useful that others and they should be treated better
User avatar #245 - brrigg (11/11/2013) [-]
i think people are misunderstanding op here. just because everybody isn't being treated equally, doesn't mean they are being treated negatively. if everyone where treated equally, wouldn't we all be expected to do the same work, get the same free time, and do the same recreational activites? you wouldn't ask some petite woman to do the same work as a construction worker, just as you wouldn't ask an uninteligent person to do the same studies as a scientist. think standardized testing, that is, by definition, everybody being treated equally, but it's a flawed system that doesn't take into account many factors that can affect test scores. i believe that this post is saying that people are all unique, and need to be treated as the individuals that they are. we need to embrace our differences, not force equality.
#213 - palindromia (11/11/2013) [-]
For some to prosper others must perish. Only the lesser cry for equality.
User avatar #243 to #213 - flybager (11/11/2013) [-]
liberalism isn't the best way to go, but neither is socialism.
#241 - certifiedidiot ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
Pretty much aware of that, I just judge people on their character, which I think is the gist of the whole ''everyone is equal''
#240 - mr skeltal (11/11/2013) [-]
I don't think OP knows what equality actually means.
User avatar #239 - durkadurka (11/11/2013) [-]
Because being different doesn't necessarily mean unequal. Being one race doesn't make you less than other, same goes for gender, intellect, etc.

For one, if we say a group of people are inferior, it then becomes okay to oppress them (a really bad idea).

What's dangerous is when we pretend that different people should have the same OUTCOMES. We'll treat you like everyone else, but what you do with your life is on YOU.
User avatar #226 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
"All men…are NOT created equal! Some are born smarter, or more beautiful, or with parents of greater status. Some, by contrast, are born weak of body or mind, or with few, if any, talents. All men are different! Yes, the very existence of man is discriminatory! That’s why there is war, violence and unrest. Inequality is not evil. Equality is! What became of the EU, who claimed that all are equal? It is in constant conflict because its tenets go against human nature! The Middle Eastern Federation, which harbors similar sentiments, is constantly mired with sloths! But our Britannia is not like them! We put an end to wars and evolve with every conquest! Britannia alone looks forward and moves forward to a better future! The death of my son Clovis is yet more proof that our empire is evolving. Fight! For the future rests in the hands of its ruler! ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!!!!"

- Emperor Charles zi Britannia
User avatar #225 - supersandlvliii (11/11/2013) [-]
**supersandlvliii rolls 02**
#206 - swedenusa (11/11/2013) [-]
Code Geass Emperor speech(English)
#210 to #206 - skybornetide (11/11/2013) [-]
That is exactly what I was thinking of.
That is exactly what I was thinking of.
#207 - thebeer (11/11/2013) [-]
I agree on fitness and intellect part. Those are both controllable to an extent, but people need to stop giving a **** about race, gender etc.
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