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User avatar #230 - foelkera (11/11/2013) [-]
If race is a social construct, then why are there minorities?
#235 to #230 - sabotagesam (11/11/2013) [-]
if ketchup equals londonderry, then how come earthworms faked the moon landing?
#256 to #235 - trailoftears (11/11/2013) [-]
That's a good question, Sam.
User avatar #215 - theaceofthespade (11/11/2013) [-]
This *sounds* incredibly racist, but I assume what OP is actually referring to would be things like affirmative action, which seak to create equality of outcome?
#219 to #215 - itsbendingtime (11/11/2013) [-]
Affirmative action is racist.
Nobody should be given any extra help or leg ups because of their race.
Everyone should be left to succeed or fail based on personal merit alone.
User avatar #222 to #219 - theaceofthespade (11/11/2013) [-]
Equality of outcome is impossible, and most things which seak to directly create it usually suffer the same pitfalls they're trying to solve.
#223 to #222 - itsbendingtime (11/11/2013) [-]
well put.
User avatar #221 to #219 - theaceofthespade (11/11/2013) [-]
I agree
User avatar #303 - necrid ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
Has anyone read the book Anthem, by Ayn Rand? I liked the book, and I think that most people that commented here would, even if you don't agree with her philosophy (Objectivism, I know I don't agree with it). I feel like the message OP is sending is also the message being sent in the book, in a way. While, where I live, we aknowledge people's differences every day, I guess there might be some places that don't. While we are different, it shouldn't mean different treatment under the law. That just leads back to Social Darwinism, which is the ****** excuse that European's used to take Africans as slaves (we are white and civilized, they are black and savages, we must take them and "civilize" them). Being different is great. When it comes to the law, if you were discriminated for any reason, it is bad. It has happened all the time in the history of the world, the best example coming to my head is the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which prevented Chinese immigrants from entering the US. Doesn't seem fair when hundreds of thousands of white immigrants were still entering the country.
TLDR; Being different is good, discrimination (especially under the law) is bad.
#313 to #303 - angelusprimus ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
Ayn Rand was a tortured soul who got a first hand experience with psychopatic collectivism and decided that if that is wrong then psychopatic individualism is good.
Though worse then what she was preaching is the way people today understand her message and think its a carte blanche to act like a selfish dick.
User avatar #308 - mrradical (11/11/2013) [-]
yeah thats a very simplistic way to look at it
#298 - meatbeaterz **User deleted account** (11/11/2013) [-]
im proud of you my boy
#258 - weenieandthebutt (11/11/2013) [-]
People should be equal regardless of identity such as race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion and gender (though there are a few biological differences but still shouldn't be restricted from certain rights and opportunities). But equality obviously breaks down when you're taking non-inheritable traits such as intellect of physical fitness into account.
People should be equal regardless of identity such as race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion and gender (though there are a few biological differences but still shouldn't be restricted from certain rights and opportunities). But equality obviously breaks down when you're taking non-inheritable traits such as intellect of physical fitness into account.
User avatar #271 to #258 - lotengo (11/11/2013) [-]
so intellect and physica fitness are non--inheritable ?
User avatar #274 to #271 - weenieandthebutt (11/11/2013) [-]
They may be inheritable just to a certain extent but otherwise, they're usually earned and they're not just some social constructivism trait. I would favour the muscular person over a skinny person for manual labour based jobs, I'd favour the more intellect over mentally-challenging based jobs etc. I believe race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, relgion and gender are equal on hierarchical grounds but I refuse to accept that we should lower standards to cater for unfit or stupid people.
User avatar #278 to #274 - lotengo (11/11/2013) [-]
i totally agree with that. But i do think that both intellect an physical fitness are ineritable.

If arnold schwarzenegger and Hulk Hogan made a love child u probably get a bulked up baby.
If Madame Curie did the do with Charles Darwin u probably get a smart kid.

And if honey boo-boo would reproduce (lets hope that never happens) u probably get a fat retard
User avatar #286 to #278 - weenieandthebutt (11/11/2013) [-]
I disagree with what you said (you still need to work for it) but regardless of whether it's inheritable of not, my point is that people who of all ends of the intellect and fitness spectrum should not be perceived as equals. Fat people should not be beauty models and be more regarded as attractive as fit people and dumb people should not receive the same praise or attention as smart people.
#279 - iamthepapercut (11/11/2013) [-]
I don't know what you people's problem is with op, I agree with him.

Why would I ever want to be considered equal to this?
#277 - stickandmove (11/11/2013) [-]
Should we be DIFFERENT from one another or UNEQUAL?

This is some pretty dumb **** . :l
#267 - turtlespear (11/11/2013) [-]
OP has the right idea. Delighting in each other's differences, rather than trying to hide them by claiming we are all equal or hating each other for them, is the only move that can be of lasting benefit.
User avatar #255 - CodeUltra (11/11/2013) [-]
Where have I heard this before.... Code Geass Emperor speech(English)
#248 - riddari (11/11/2013) [-]
I get what op is going at here (or at least I suppose I do), but my position is that there is a base-line level of equal rights everyone should have and if we truly establish that world-wide, the question is: what those rights will be (and no, I do not think that the declaration of human rights suffices).
#213 - palindromia (11/11/2013) [-]
For some to prosper others must perish. Only the lesser cry for equality.
User avatar #243 to #213 - flybager (11/11/2013) [-]
liberalism isn't the best way to go, but neither is socialism.
User avatar #238 - killboy (11/11/2013) [-]
You misunderstand.
We're not talking about treating a no life junkie the same as a profound scientist. We're talking about treating everyone the same regarding their race and gender. A black junkie is just as bad as a white one.
#237 - kornadth (11/11/2013) [-]
#233 - anonymous (11/11/2013) [-]
OP is a faggotscist
#231 - endsdawn (11/11/2013) [-]
Someone give whoever made this pic a medal!
User avatar #227 - damncheese (11/11/2013) [-]
In my primary School, i got a very bad education because 70% of the focus was on helping those With Extremely bad grades. Most of the time the Teachers just repeated what we had learned in the previous year so it would help those struggling to Catch up.

The result of this was slightly raising the minoroty of bad grades, and lowering the progress of students With a potential to learn more.

Sometimes giving more Resources to those With bigger needs can backfire
User avatar #226 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
"All men…are NOT created equal! Some are born smarter, or more beautiful, or with parents of greater status. Some, by contrast, are born weak of body or mind, or with few, if any, talents. All men are different! Yes, the very existence of man is discriminatory! That’s why there is war, violence and unrest. Inequality is not evil. Equality is! What became of the EU, who claimed that all are equal? It is in constant conflict because its tenets go against human nature! The Middle Eastern Federation, which harbors similar sentiments, is constantly mired with sloths! But our Britannia is not like them! We put an end to wars and evolve with every conquest! Britannia alone looks forward and moves forward to a better future! The death of my son Clovis is yet more proof that our empire is evolving. Fight! For the future rests in the hands of its ruler! ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!!!!"

- Emperor Charles zi Britannia
User avatar #225 - supersandlvliii (11/11/2013) [-]
**supersandlvliii rolls 02**
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