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User avatar #288 - twofreegerbils
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I like how the basis of this meme is "unpopular opinions", but truly unpopular opinions will get voted down and never seen, while the popular ones get voted up, like this one. So they really aren't unpopular after all.
User avatar #293 to #288 - fizzor
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It's how the "unpopular opinion" business works. People post opinions that are likely to get green thumbs because it's actually not an upopular opinion, and the "hurr dis ees an unpooplar opeenion durr" **** serves as the cherry on top just to make sure it actually gets the much desired green thumbs.
#191 - oogmasta
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does no one on this site know about how your metabolism is partially determined by genetics???? its easier for some people to stay at a good weight than others; even if they are on the same exact diet
User avatar #223 to #191 - obviouscaptain
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muh genetics
User avatar #173 - friendlyanon
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You can not:
-Run over someone with your car because you are too drunk.
-Annoy / passively destroy the health of those arround you, including children, because you don't give a **** about them.
-Gut someone to take their money because you need your ******* damn shot.

So, no, they're not exactly the same, you can't put them in the same boat.
BUT i understand your point, and i agree with you to some extent. We all usually deserve what we get, because we bring it upon ourselves most of the time.
User avatar #177 to #173 - friendlyanon
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*I mean, being fat will not push you to do any of those 3 things. I derped a little there.
User avatar #226 to #177 - obviouscaptain
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What if a fat person needed to steal to feed their addiction to food?
User avatar #330 to #226 - friendlyanon
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Do you really see something like that happening...?
User avatar #341 to #330 - obviouscaptain
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yes
User avatar #342 to #341 - friendlyanon
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Well then, i have to say: that would be ******* terrifying.

They could eattheir own children or something.
User avatar #156 - stealingbikes
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What they need is a toddler following them around and playing a tuba
User avatar #159 to #156 - benevolentpsycho
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That will be fifty bucks
#97 - songemot
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Fat acceptance is no different from drug abuse acceptance, cutting acceptance, or anorexia acceptance.
User avatar #3 - sinery
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I don't see how the obese have immunity from judgement or being cared for especially.
Explain.
#6 to #3 - weenieandthebutt [OP]
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Ermmm:   
   
-The whole ******** feminist, "big is beautiful" fad.   
   
-The whole shallow guilt tripping for not finding fat people attractive.   
   
-The whole A&F uproar with them refusing to cater to fat people.   
   
-The fat acceptance movement.
Ermmm:

-The whole ******** feminist, "big is beautiful" fad.

-The whole shallow guilt tripping for not finding fat people attractive.

-The whole A&F uproar with them refusing to cater to fat people.

-The fat acceptance movement.
#37 to #6 - kanedam
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i'm a skinny guy and i dont really hold back on my opinion about obese people.

BUT: i have to say the campaign about big is beautiful is ok in my eyes, because even if i dont find them attractive i know a few guys who like more meat on their women. so lets not make them get depressed and such and rather have them search for the guy who likes it that way and make them believe that he really likes it!
#7 to #6 - sinery
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Only seen "big is beautiful" here, Fj is the only thing that updates me on the world.
The **** America.
#347 - grapefruity
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Going to play devils advocate here, so be warned.

There are two (Possibly 3, if you believe people when they say their metabolism is slow) types of overweight people; Those who complain that they are overweight and do something about it, and those who complain and do nothing.

Of the latter their are two separate groups; Those who like being (or rather, getting) fat, and those who are just weak willed.

You are allowed to eat as much as you want (Literally, no one can really tell you otherwise). But you must except societies view of you if you do as well as the health risks. You can't complain and tell the public they are wrong, just simply say 'Yeah, bacon is awesome and I will continue to stuff my face' and accept that people will see you as a 'Fat ass' or lazy. You deserve to be treated politely, but not considered flawless.

You should not judge people for their faults unless they claim their actions are perfectly healthy.
User avatar #297 - vgmddg
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The 6 Levels of Fatness
User avatar #295 - thisismyhandle
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Should overweight people get sympathy? No, if anything people with certain conditions that make them overweight should get sympathy for having that condition.

However, if you actively go to people and judge them because they are overweight, then you're an asshole. If you are going to lump in being overweight/obese with being an alcoholic, smoker, or hardcore drug junkie, you should treat them the same way as you should the others by trying to help them (or get them help).
User avatar #262 - demandsgayversion
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Fun fact: most of the morbidly obese people come from the poorest areas. All they can afford to eat is cheap stuff, and cheap stuff is usually really unhealthy.
User avatar #264 to #262 - swagasauruss
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no its because cheap stuff is the good stuff and you can get lots of it. a large majority of Organic stores accept Food Stamps and you can budget to eat healthy and not 4 plates of $1 pizzas
User avatar #265 to #264 - demandsgayversion
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How many organic food stores are in low income neighborhoods? Can poor people afford to drive 3 towns away to get to the organic food stores?
User avatar #266 to #265 - swagasauruss
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I live in a town with less then 600 people, we have 1 grocery store and it caries organic...Im sure most other people can find a store like that
User avatar #267 to #266 - demandsgayversion
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How is the organic food priced compared to cheap stuff?
User avatar #271 to #267 - swagasauruss
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maybe a dollar or two more
User avatar #273 to #271 - demandsgayversion
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For some people, that's a big difference - and that's a small difference compared to most places.
User avatar #275 to #273 - swagasauruss
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well I'm just stating that its not Just because they are poor, most people with weight issues eat every chance they get, eating copious amounts at once.
User avatar #276 to #275 - demandsgayversion
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That sounds like an emotion fueled statement.
User avatar #278 to #276 - swagasauruss
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mainly because I'm tired of seeing people with 3 kids and way over weight and eating massive amounts of food then complaining that they cant lose weight and dont have money for blah blah
User avatar #280 to #278 - demandsgayversion
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You've never been poor, have you?
User avatar #289 to #280 - swagasauruss
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never been poor? I make $13k a year with a large sized family...poor enough for you?
User avatar #290 to #289 - demandsgayversion
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This argument is devolving into stupidity. I'm ending it before we go off track, which is inevitable at this point.

So back to the original points, statistically, the poorest places are also the fattest. You can look that up, fat stats vs poor stats (living poor, that is, not tribe people or homeless)
User avatar #292 to #290 - swagasauruss
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Just dont want people think its because they can only afford ****** food. 3/4ths of weight issue is to do with moderation
User avatar #305 to #292 - demandsgayversion
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Where are you getting these statistics? 75% of weight issues is moderation?

Cleveland, Ohio: 3rd highest percentage of poverty in a large city according to 2012 census, 3rd most overweight city according to Men's Fitness magazine.

Detroit: ******* Detroit, in top 10 fattest cities in every statistic thing I can find, 4th most obese city according to Men's Fitness

Memphis, Tennessee: 9th highest poverty percentage in a large city (2012 census), most obese city according to Men's Fitness.
#261 - nadam
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Anyone else not care about all this "unpopular opinion puffin" and "confession bear" crap?    
   
Also, there are some circumstances beyond a person's control that can cause them to gain weight. For example, some medications can cause weight gain.
Anyone else not care about all this "unpopular opinion puffin" and "confession bear" crap?

Also, there are some circumstances beyond a person's control that can cause them to gain weight. For example, some medications can cause weight gain.
User avatar #270 to #261 - jackmanagan
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i dont care for puffin. but confession bear is established been around for quite some time. and from time to time makes me lel.
the puffin is like, im about to say something, that will invoke anger. but theres a cute animal so dont thumb me down.
idk
#202 - stickandmove
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Some people really do have a genetic predisposition to obesity.

Most are just lazy, greasy people though. :p
User avatar #217 to #202 - sethbean
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You can't have a predisposition to obesity, you can have one to being overweight, but obesity is different completely.
User avatar #163 - SteveHomoki
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You cannot put being fat in the same class as illegal substance abuse or in the same class as alcoholics. It's like saying crossing the road without using the crosswalk is as illegal as speeding. One is far more dangerous to others, such as the walker (fat ironically) is only putting themselves in harms way where as the speeder (drug/alcohol) is actually putting others at risk besides themselves due to their behavior. But don't be hasty to judge, neither wants a bad outcome really.
User avatar #155 - rageshaman
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I know I am fat and I understand everyone has an opinion. However, if I hear you insult my weight, I am going to want to hurt you. Just the same as someone who taunts a smoker, alcoholic, or junkie. I can't speak for everyone, but for me I don't handle taunts very well and I am sensitive about this problem, and will likely become angered by accusations and ****** remarks.

TLR: I will ******* hurt you if you hurt me
User avatar #168 to #155 - SteveHomoki
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You really are just mad at yourself but too much of a coward to face your own problem. You get annoyed because you don't know what to do about it. So if someone points out your shoes are broken but your too poor to afford a new pair, ask for help.
User avatar #175 to #168 - rageshaman
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You assume that being overweight is something you can just ask for help with anywhere. Also not mad at myself at all, my life is pretty great tbh, I just don't like being taunted or insulted. If you would like a onhand demonstration, go up to a real biker, call him a pathetic chode for riding said bike. Give 5 seconds for demonstration to begin.
User avatar #208 to #175 - SteveHomoki
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Not a very good example unless I road up with something better. You shouldn't take offense over facts. Learn to laugh about them and laugh at yourself. And yes you can ask for help when it comes to losing weight, you can literally ask anyone and every single person has an opinion on it.
User avatar #140 - LocoJoe
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But muh fat acceptance!


Anyone notice the only fat acceptance people are women and SJWs? No fat guy is ever fat acceptance.
User avatar #142 to #140 - weenieandthebutt [OP]
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OP here. I like the cool down to Earth fatties who are like teddy bears and are real bros. Plus, men in general know their place unlike some women who regardless of their status, they think they're god damn entitled to everything.
#131 - jeweledmushroom
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Genetics can not stop you from eating right and exercising regularly
User avatar #99 - apatheticalcare **User deleted account**
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What if they are born that way...
User avatar #101 to #99 - heartlessrobot
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Then parents shouldn't raise their children on alcohol and drugs.
User avatar #103 to #101 - apatheticalcare **User deleted account**
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I meant fat people.
User avatar #105 to #103 - heartlessrobot
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Then parents shouldn't raise their children on copious amounts of fast food. It's the same concept.
User avatar #107 to #105 - apatheticalcare **User deleted account**
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Well, there is actually genetics. My aunt is very obese, she rarely touch fast food or anything fat. She eats healthy, such as salads and oatmeals, goes to the gym 3 times a day, and she's still considered obese.
#127 to #107 - caplocker
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Lol, bull ****** ****. Your fat ****** aunt is not going to the gym 3 times a day and eating nothing but oatmeal and salad. Your fat ****** aunt would be able to eat 13 cups of oatmeal a day while sitting on her fat ass and would still lose weight. Your fat ****** aunt could go to the gym 3 times a day and and eat 20 cups of oatmeal a day and lose weight.

You're completely full of ****. No one... NO ONE that's going to a gym 3 times a day is a.) real and b.) fat. Your post tells me a few things. 1, you've never stepped foot in a gym. 2 you don't have an aunt and 3 you have no idea how "genetics" work. its possible that your genetics could make you crave fatty foods. Not consuming them and becoming fat? Pft, **** off. the only way your fat ****** aunt is eating nothing but salads and oatmeal is if she's making her own topping out of fast food and pizza.
User avatar #174 to #127 - eclecticparadigm **User deleted account**
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Sounds like this is a typical fat guy who calls his fat his "muscle mass," thinks he's buff, while he looks down on other fat people, trying to differentiate himself from his own kind.
User avatar #170 to #127 - misteranthropic **User deleted account**
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Yeah, we get it, you hate fat people.
User avatar #160 to #127 - apatheticalcare **User deleted account**
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Sorry for the mistake, nobody could go to the gym 3 times a day. I meant 3 times a week. And please, calm down.
1. I don't need to step in the gym, I'm underweight by American standards.
2. do have an aunt. But I don't know how that post make it seem like I don't have an aunt.
3. Gee, what do I know, I'm just some random internet user. But that's how I was under the impression that's how it works.
healthland.time.com/2013/07/19/news-genes-idd-in-obesity-how-much-of-weight-is-genetic/
#150 to #127 - luckyblackcat
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#211 to #150 - caplocker
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^ this guy gets it.
User avatar #149 to #107 - apatheticalcare **User deleted account**
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3 times a week*
User avatar #167 to #149 - eclecticparadigm **User deleted account**
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maybe in america, she's skinny.
User avatar #108 to #107 - heartlessrobot
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Tell me, were there people like that 50 years ago?
User avatar #124 to #108 - camotrollin
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Yes actually, just less of them
User avatar #126 to #124 - heartlessrobot
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And they weren't nearly the size they are today.
User avatar #128 to #126 - camotrollin
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well the ones who take care of themselves but are still obese because of genetics are still the same size. My father only eats 1 healthy meal a day and jogs 3-5 miles a day and is still 20 pounds overweight because of a thyriod condition.
User avatar #129 to #128 - heartlessrobot
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20 lbs overweight is fine, what I hate is the people wider than they are tall that blame it on genetics.
User avatar #171 to #129 - misteranthropic **User deleted account**
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What? Overweight 20 lbs is still overweight. Some people try hard and they are still fat.
#115 to #108 - anon id: 4089f420
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NO, you know why? because additives, addictive's, and fatteners were not force-fed to people 50 years ago like Monsanto does today. I agree with heartlessrobot on this one.
#118 to #115 - anon id: 4089f420
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I mean I agree with apatheticalcare, not heartless robot.
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User avatar #110 to #108 - apatheticalcare **User deleted account**
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Yeah, obese people are everywhere and existed a while ago. But the numbers increased over time because of fast foods etc. Nowadays, obese people in the population are caused by people who are genetically like that and people who turn themselves like that.
User avatar #112 to #110 - heartlessrobot
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And the numbers won't stop increasing because people have made it a sin to tell someone they shouldn't be fat.
User avatar #119 to #112 - apatheticalcare **User deleted account**
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Ah never mind, maybe in American standards, she's not considered as fat or obese.

So people should be ridiculed for being fat even if it's not their fault. That's kinda bitter and sad. Kinda like some people who are born retarded, no matter how hard they try, the world keeps on reminding them that they are lazy slackers.
User avatar #122 to #119 - heartlessrobot
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Face it, the world is a cruel place and that's the way it needs to be unless we want to regress as a species. I'm not saying we should forcibly change people, but we should discourage damaging lifestyles. If they have a choice, they should make the healthy choice. If it's out of their control, they should do their best to stay healthy, wether or not they really can make a difference.
User avatar #162 to #99 - eclecticparadigm **User deleted account**
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yea, thought some ppl are born fat. i don't understand why you get so many thumbs down.
#92 - sphinxe
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Just because a person is fat doesn't automatically make them a bad person. Treat people with respect, and if they do something to break that respect, then judge away. Don't be an asshole outright.
Just because a person is fat doesn't automatically make them a bad person. Treat people with respect, and if they do something to break that respect, then judge away. Don't be an asshole outright.
#123 to #92 - flapz
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An alcoholic is not automatically a bad person either? And if you think alcoholics deserve less respect than obese people, then you are the asshole...

User avatar #166 to #123 - sphinxe
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Being a drug addict, a gambler etc doesn't make them bad people. What I'm saying is, give someone a chance before you judge them.
#87 - hopskotch
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...What alcoholic, smoker or junkie asks for sympathy?
#134 to #87 - TehFunnyMan
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Staaaaaan....
User avatar #18 - thekame
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but alcoholics, smokers and junkies should get your sympathy.
User avatar #28 to #18 - thebrownydestroyer **User deleted account**
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Why?
User avatar #29 to #28 - thekame
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They're victims of their own social situation.
#31 to #29 - kanedam
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so if someone does something bad to himself they should have sympathy for doing something so stupid to themselves?
User avatar #33 to #31 - thekame
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I'm pretty left wing as you can see.
#34 to #33 - kanedam
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no i can't...
most likely because i'm from another country and the terminology of left and right wing have very big differencies depending on the country and culture.

so, you are serious about beeing sorry for someone who decides openly to do something foolish?
like: someone who spends all his money on chicks and videogames and then cant pay his rent i should feel sorry for him? and have a bad consciousness for beeing able to pay the rent since i'm saving?
User avatar #36 to #34 - thekame
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you should feel bad for him because he isn't completely to blame, his upbringing and friends had a lot of influence on him, in this case obviously bad influence. you don't have to have a bad conscious about it though as it isn't your fault.
#38 to #36 - kanedam
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is that scientifically backed up?

because, the way i interpret your words is: noone is really completely to blame for his actions. its his upbringing, friends and stuff that made him be that way!
well: **** yeah it is! so?
it's everyone own decision how to cope with the influence of others and the situations.
if you have children or ever get into the situation to look after a group of kids: just look at them while they watch tv. some kids get frightened, some like char 1, some like char 2. they already have different opinions and ways to handle the situations in that age. what makes one person say no to drugs when they had addicted parents and the other one become addicted themselves?
those are things sociology isnt able to tell us yet. so until that day i will stay on the point that at some point in ones life one has to accept that everything one does is their own full responsibility. noone can force you to do anything! the only thing you have to do is live with the consequences. but nothing in the whole ******* world can force you to do anything.
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of course every one copes with things differently, that's not the point. those people should never have been put in a situation which led to their destructive behavior.