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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #273 - wymlan
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I imagine his voice like marcus fenix from gears of war and Its just so fukin bad ass.
#267 - spanishninja
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**** YEAH AMERICA
User avatar #224 - gongthehawkeye
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Well that was hardcore....
#188 - dubslao
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#157 - slenderwolf
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User avatar #150 - iamnuff
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yeah, this was retracted actually,


the guy who wrote that line was fired, and the guy who replaced him had cap say something like "the french resistance were very brave"


to be fair, its not just spineless back-pedalling, Cap would probably remember the french fighting for their freedom during the occupation.
User avatar #151 to #150 - asheskirata
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the only thing about that is that most of the French Resistance gave up. They also basically rolled over in the first place during the Nazi occupation, but some pockets did fight for a good while before also giving up.
User avatar #271 to #151 - iamnuff
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government.

the French GOVERNMENT gave up, the resistance resisted.

hence the name

their government leaders rolled over and let the Germans take over the country, and the brave French men and woman of La Résistance sabotaged supply lines, perpetrated guerilla warfare, published underground newspapers, aided allies airmen trapped behind enemy lines, spied on the Nazis, and generally did everything within their power to ruin **** for the German occupiers.

User avatar #272 to #271 - asheskirata
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if you didn't read what I said, the resistance did resist for awhile, but they gave up eventually. This is true. Ask any American veteran that fought in the European theater. One of which just so happens to be my grandfather.
#279 to #272 - iamnuff
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"ask any american vet"

or you could ask a British vet who actually fought alongside the Resistance, like MY grandfather.

yes, they weren't as active later on as they were at the start, that's because the Germans ******* killed most of them.

duh.

fighting for your country's freedom until your oppressors kill most of the resistance is hardly cowardice.

Americans just love to mock France for surrendering in WW2, which is pretty hypocritical, considering America didn't even deign to join the fight (ignoring several treaties requiring them to do just that, due in part to the massive losses taken in WWI) until Japan bombed the **** out of PH, and even then, only joined battle against Japan, not against Germany.

something i have noticed actually, a lot of american movies paint america as "the guy who saved everyone in WW2" but i recently found out that much of your school learned history tells you similar (though less blatantly propagandist) stories.

I listened to my granddads stories, and did a bunch of research, using american sources, British sources, and a couple of French/Japanese/German ones too. (it was a part of my collage course, I'm not just a huge history nerd who does this for fun)

the stories told are surprisingly different. one thing universal to every version except america's though, is that america categorically refused to join until the end, and then only (offically) declared war against Japan, it was actually Germany who Declared war on america in response to america attacking Japan.

eleven american airmen (upon learning that they would not be allowed to support the Allies) did desert from their own country, disguise themselves as Brits or Canadians and take part in the battle of Britain.

though I consider this more an action of individuals, than of america as a whole, after-all, they had to pretend to be British just to avoid being punished by their own country.

wow, that went on a tangent.

4am, sorry. rambling.
User avatar #283 to #279 - asheskirata
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My Grandfather was an englishman who was trained by the American Army Air Corps, that's the only reason I called him an American Vet. The people who actually fought in the war don't tell it like that, they tell it how they saw it. Of course, like I said, pockets of resistance continued, but the French did give up. Yes, we give them **** for that, because they were the biggest advocates of us standing up for ourselves against the English during the Revolutionary War.
User avatar #307 to #283 - iamnuff
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eh, "pockets of resistance" is the entire point of guerilla warfare.

you can't have entire chunks of the country openly defying the Germans, that's how you convince them to roll a bunch of tanks over you.


it's easy to rant about freedom from the safety of your own home, but when Germans are rolling a tanks through your streets, you have to be subtle or they kill your whole family.


yes, the French government gave up, and with them, most of the country, i already said that. politicians are going to be backstabbing weasels, what can you do?

the point is that Cap fought alongside the French resistance, and was quoted saying that he considered them extremely brave for fighting for freedom and so on.

I was just posting a bit of trivia, about how the panel in the OP was retracted so hard that nobody in DC is even willing to admit it was ever actually printed.
#111 - outoftotalrange
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Apparently.
User avatar #24 - hudis
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>implying france had a choice
#45 to #24 - anon id: 86dcfca7
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They surrendered in a little over a month, they could have kept fighting for longer.
User avatar #69 to #45 - Riukanojutsu
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Hmmm no?
User avatar #50 to #45 - hudis
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At what cost, though? Thousands, tens of thousands, among which some of the key members of the later crucial resistance may have been? The occupation could have turned into a full massacre instead, demoralizing the entire west and jeopardizing the war itself. I'm not saying this is definitely what would have happened, because discussing what ifs is often ridiculous, I'm just saying that a surrender is not merely cowardice.
#51 to #50 - anon id: 86dcfca7
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Tens of thousands were killed anyways, at least tens of thousands would've died actually putting somewhat of a dent in the opposing force other than being slaughtered like cattle. I'm not saying surrender is always just cowardice, i'm saying in this case it was.
#54 to #51 - anon id: 4b996547
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But it wasn't. The war was lost for France. You are allowed to accuse someone of cowardice only if you've been in the same situation.
#57 to #54 - anon id: 86dcfca7
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Uh, no, you don't, in the same way you don't have to have killed millions of people to call say someone was a genocidal maniac. It was cowardice plain and simple.
User avatar #58 to #57 - hudis
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Saying it's "cowardice plain and simple" when you weren't alive at the time and probably haven't spoken to a Frenchman who was either is both ignorant and disrespectful and doesn't warrant further discussion on the subject. I'd really suggest honing your ability to look at things from more than one point of view.
User avatar #63 to #58 - kevlar
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as far as i know there were a **** ton of frenchmen who said **** it and attacked the germans occupying france. that doesnt excuse the french government of their cowardice.
User avatar #66 to #63 - hudis
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You can't call it cowardice. Nazi Germany was a gargantuan war machine fuelled by extremism and hatred and cold hard efficiency. France was an insect to them. I know it might be hard to understand, but surrender might have been the better choice in the long run.
User avatar #67 to #66 - kevlar
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and either way its citizens fought for a country that was dead. no matter what, the government pretty much **** on the people of france with its surrender. your gonna tell me the actual fench armed forces werent stronger than a ******* regular people? if a country betrays the people in a way such as pretty much giving them away to a "war machine fueled by extremism, hatred, and cold hard efficiency" then the leaders of said country are cowards. the french people were some brave mother *******, but i cant honestly say anything good about the WWII era government. abandoning Nam? thats fine, they were the only ones aside from the US that actually did enough to say they did, but aandoning your country is something people should never do. i cant stand most of the people ive met in my life, and im not all too patriotic, but if the US was invade, no matter how ****** the odds were to win, i wouldnt abandon it.
User avatar #71 to #67 - Riukanojutsu
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Ok get this, the germans had a ******* of tanks and **** while france had WW1 equipement. the german wouldve nurmed france the same way the russian burned russia. It just isnt worth it. Its not about abandon this or abandoning that. Its just arithmetic, more people wouldve died if France kept fighting.
Theres an enormous difference between civillian guerilla warfare and 2 army fighting, being that you dont know whos your enemy. The french really innovated the way of the guerilla warfare, they didnt know their allies were but they still manage to annoy the germans.

You obviously know very little on the subject so you should at least try to learn why they resigned.
User avatar #75 to #71 - kevlar
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honestly, bro, the reasoning is lost on me. WWI equipment or not, i just personally believe it was wrong. its the whole belief system thing. any government willing to drop to its knees while its people are fighting for their own country is in my mind cowardly. i would say the same thing if another country that could steam roll the **** out of the US came and attacked us and our government surrendered. i also dont see why there is an arguement here, seeing as though yes, youre using facts, and yes i may look like a retard defending my beliefs like this, either way its still how i see the french surrender in WWII. ill say again, french people themselves were beast as ****, the government wasnt. North Vietnam proved extremely well what can happen if you combine civilian and military guerrilla warfare tactics with an organized military. if you remember correctly, the US won almost every battle in Nam, but in the end lost the conflict just as the french did because of the way the North Vietnamese used both civilian and organized militant groups
User avatar #77 to #75 - Riukanojutsu
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But its not cowardice. Thats the thing, its was the smartest thing to do. You cant just fight forever. You have to know when to stop. Pride is a dangerous thing.
Lets say you capture 3 wild animal, foxes for example. At first theyre all savage and refuse to listen to you but at one point 2 of them started to listen to you while the third one is still as savage as ever.
You'd just kill or release(its not that great of an example :V) it. If you look at this objectively, the 2 that listened to you are still alive, fed and are living under a roof while the third one is dead (or released).

point is, the smart move is not always the honorable one and its really stupid to keep fighting out of pride.
User avatar #85 to #77 - kevlar
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hey now buddy, i believe i called myself retarded for my way of thinking on this matter. multiple N A tribes were extinguished for that reason. i know enough about WWII to know that the french made the smart move, and i know they were **** compared to germany. the axis powers needed to be opposed by every single allied force the world could bring together. the chinese were being raped(literally) by japan and required the assisstance of the US army(which it kinda got since members of our military were allowed to go fight in the assisstance of china, thoguh unsanction, before the pacific theater), the russians werent fairing too well(if not for Normandy and other things the western allies did on the way to berlin) germany would have even descimated them. i just have an ass backwards belief system that dates as far back as the first human to walk the earth.either way though i believe the french gov was wrong in their response to nazi occupation. also, your example was pretty great, imo
User avatar #86 to #85 - Riukanojutsu
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As long as you understand its the smart to surrender, youre cool in my book.

Really? thanks. I realised that releasing the fox was kinda letting him win since it was his goal to be free.
User avatar #90 to #86 - kevlar
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yeah, a surrender is a great way to prevent casualties, which is always smart. japanese surrender in pacific for example. also, the other 2 foxes will prolly lead a much better life that the one released. the released fox will be somewhat institutionalized i guess you could say, thus limiting its survival abilities compared to a fox that was never taken away from the ntural order of things. it will easily regain its skils, but will it be able to survive that long?
User avatar #91 to #90 - Riukanojutsu
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If it wasnt for the Nuclear Bombs Japan would have probably not surrended RIP grammar . After such a demonstration of power he had to choice. Japanese soldiers were hardcore with the bushido and **** coincidentally they had a very low survival rate, who wouldve thought.

I thought about that too, its true but its not really applicable in the context of France and germany.
User avatar #172 to #91 - kevlar
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they would have eventually surrenedered, but it would have cost the lives of many more people than the nukes did. we also would most likely have need more direct hel from nations such as England(i know they helped indirectly a decent amount, but i cant remember how much direct help we recieved)
also, i believe we can both agree that Canada was the ultimate badass in WWII
User avatar #177 to #172 - Riukanojutsu
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I agree 100%
#106 to #24 - teranin
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>Implying france had the balls to fight without their big fancy wall

Still it's silly to make fun of a country forever for the actions of a few people in charge of that country. Isn't that right, Germany?
User avatar #13 - countrifiedpimp
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In the first panel, the guy Capt. America is fighting looks like Leo Dicaprio, Damn he really wants that Oscar
User avatar #290 - YourAnalProbe
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Could've sworn this was Marvel Zombies, but then again I rarely read comics so I wouldn't know
User avatar #289 - caterpiec
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**caterpiec rolled a random comment #5942072 posted by tehbestever at Admin's personal trolling board. ** :
What the **** is this support irvea ****

i mean

i click it, it turns green, nothing happens

NO GOOD NO GOOD
#282 - ejaculation
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**ejaculation rolled a random image posted in comment #56 at When You See It ** surrender
User avatar #280 - randybutternub
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You can always tell the quality of a French rifle by how many times its been dropped.
User avatar #246 - henryfordthegod
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The french and Italians are both equally cowardly and dangerous to America
#144 - unbelievable
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You want freedom? Come to Romania...
User avatar #105 - whycanticaps
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I thought this was going to be Marvel zombies or something like that

Zombie Captain heh
#254 - mrsexmuffins
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Muh freedoms r safe with him
User avatar #17 - AGuyULuv
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I'm not Merican, yet i still had a sense of freedom.
#6 - justleaving
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<---- source is Ketchup Ninja