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#268 - thebesttrumpeteer (08/30/2013) [-]
without france's assistance in the revolution we would have lost soooo ******* hard so take it easy on them.
User avatar #275 to #268 - spawnsy (08/30/2013) [-]
But thats when they were still cool, we lost our respect for them during WWI and WWII
#295 to #275 - anonymous (08/30/2013) [-]
france did better than germany in ww1, overall less casualties and verdun was less of a massacre for them than for the krauts
User avatar #310 to #295 - spawnsy (08/30/2013) [-]
Yeah but when the US joined the french decided to let us fight alone, we lost alot of unnessasary amount of people due to France not fighting with us a few battles
#118 - carlsagouin (08/29/2013) [-]
It's fun because Captain America would be Captain British Colony without the french

Also : www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp
User avatar #136 to #118 - seanito (08/29/2013) [-]
found the french person!
#311 to #136 - carlsagouin (08/30/2013) [-]
I don't think that'd make me wrong
User avatar #255 to #253 - jeffboomhauer **User deleted account** (08/30/2013) [-]
Dang ol' 'Murica Bill.
User avatar #264 to #253 - sabcy (08/30/2013) [-]
you mean externally.
#240 - yuukoku (08/30/2013) [-]
I've always loved Captain America. .gif not related.
I've always loved Captain America. .gif not related.
User avatar #250 to #240 - royalwerewolf (08/30/2013) [-]
User avatar #252 to #251 - royalwerewolf (08/30/2013) [-]
yessssssssssssssss this pleases me
#277 to #250 - ahjay (08/30/2013) [-]
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User avatar #256 to #240 - yuukoku (08/30/2013) [-]
To everybody who wants sauce, I don't have any.

If anyone has the sauce, please enlighten us all with it.
User avatar #265 to #240 - sabcy (08/30/2013) [-]
... why are underwear eating rats such a common complaint.
User avatar #128 - Loppytaffy (08/29/2013) [-]
I would kill to be the person who teaches, in depth, actual French history to Americans.
User avatar #162 to #128 - crazyeyedbioll (08/29/2013) [-]
I would kill to be the one who teaches in depth, how to take a joke to butthurtians.
User avatar #187 to #162 - Loppytaffy (08/29/2013) [-]
Well i just think more accurate jokes are funny. Or ironic ones.
Like America's "freedom!" and Russia being crazy.
France has a long and proud history of winning wars and profiting off the back of them. England may hate France, but we still respect them.
User avatar #193 to #187 - kristovsky (08/29/2013) [-]
im british and i dont hate france, thats a bit outdated. sure, we are competitive with them, but hate them no.
User avatar #305 to #193 - Loppytaffy (08/30/2013) [-]
All my family and anyone I've ever asked about it has said they hate France.
User avatar #309 to #305 - kristovsky (08/30/2013) [-]
dont know where you live, but i dont find that kind of sentiment in the places around the country that ive been, or where i live.
User avatar #171 to #128 - biscuitsunited (08/29/2013) [-]
You would kill to teach a class history on a country they can't find on a map?
User avatar #244 to #128 - neoexdeath ONLINE (08/30/2013) [-]
Mot people are aware that its just a joke. And a good chunk of us actually know something of French history, its the same reason the Murica jokes work. People KNOW we're not all manatees on scooters with AK 47s, but its hilarious to joke about it.
User avatar #306 to #244 - Loppytaffy (08/30/2013) [-]
Yes but there's a good number of Americans who can support that stereotype.
I can't name any wars that France has surrendered.
Sure, they've lost battles, but boy do they fight hard.
Even in WWII they remained on the allies despite losing
#238 - nigelthesamaritan (08/29/2013) [-]
I never got the hate France gets. I mean, they're the only country to have consistently been America's ally since our inception, they helped us gain our independence from Britain, they've helped us in multiple wars that we probably wouldn't have won otherwise (The War of 1812, The Civil War), and they built one of our main symbols of freedom and democracy: The Statue of Liberty. The French are bros in my books.
#274 to #238 - kadel (08/30/2013) [-]
On the other side, I wouldn't forget Napoleon who got similar "success" (uh) when it came to conquering Europe as did Germany in ww2.
User avatar #248 to #238 - Bad Man (08/30/2013) [-]
Ignore everyone else. They hate France because they're pricks that don't bathe.
#242 to #238 - onewhoobserves ONLINE (08/30/2013) [-]
The reason they get so much **** is that they lost so quickly in World War 2 and lost in Vietnam. Then they refused to support several international policing movements by the UN and then also did not support the 2nd gulf war.

Now to put this in perspective: They lost so quickly in World War 2 because of the absolutely crushing casualties sustained in World War 1. When they say they lost a generation of the most productive segment of their population they are being almost literal. In addition a large amount of the French army escaped from France early in the war and fought during the campaigns after D-day during the liberation of France and I believe they had some major roles in the North African campaign. This also doesn't account for the actions and courage of the French resistance.

Vietnam was a war that the French army was ill-adapted for and ultimately a war that the French people didn't particularly want.

The rest of it has been deliberate policy choices on the part of the French government for various reasons.
#239 to #238 - Edensfire (08/29/2013) [-]
Sorry bud, but you were taught your history wrong. The War of 1812 goes to Canada.
#110 - drambuiemmm (08/29/2013) [-]
MFW I see captain America cut a man in half with his shield and the most violent thing I ever saw him do was cut off a Chitauri's arm in The Avengers.
#281 - CakemanRPG (08/30/2013) [-]
Damn I gotta know which issue this is.
Damn I gotta know which issue this is.
#284 to #281 - ldubs (08/30/2013) [-]
I believe it's either the last or second to last issue of the first Ultimates series.
#257 - unncommon ONLINE (08/30/2013) [-]
This is brought to you by the FREE AS **** foundation.
#153 - eddymolly (08/29/2013) [-]
Good ol' Captain A, always follow his orders.
#173 to #153 - pedraum ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
Well, you may say he's a WANKer
User avatar #231 to #153 - thatstraightop **User deleted account** (08/29/2013) [-]
Shield of freedom has commanded me to wank. *Sigh* here we go again
#101 - spambassador (08/29/2013) [-]
Millar has done some really good stuff, and some really ****** stuff. He wrote some pretty good stuff like Kick Ass, then some ******* atrocious stuff like Kick Ass 2. dont EVER read Kick Ass 2. the movies okay because its nothing like the book.

That captain america is the america we dont talk about
User avatar #108 to #101 - romeosdistress (08/29/2013) [-]
Thumbs because I agree with every point you made, especially that bit about Kick-Ass 2. It was just awful.
#80 - silvertongueddevil (08/29/2013) [-]
America, 			****		 YEAH!
America, **** YEAH!
User avatar #1 - dezzka (08/29/2013) [-]
[SFM] America
#120 - Fuzzymarsupial ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
User avatar #24 - hudis ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
>implying france had a choice
#45 to #24 - anonymous (08/29/2013) [-]
They surrendered in a little over a month, they could have kept fighting for longer.
User avatar #50 to #45 - hudis ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
At what cost, though? Thousands, tens of thousands, among which some of the key members of the later crucial resistance may have been? The occupation could have turned into a full massacre instead, demoralizing the entire west and jeopardizing the war itself. I'm not saying this is definitely what would have happened, because discussing what ifs is often ridiculous, I'm just saying that a surrender is not merely cowardice.
#51 to #50 - anonymous (08/29/2013) [-]
Tens of thousands were killed anyways, at least tens of thousands would've died actually putting somewhat of a dent in the opposing force other than being slaughtered like cattle. I'm not saying surrender is always just cowardice, i'm saying in this case it was.
#54 to #51 - anonymous (08/29/2013) [-]
But it wasn't. The war was lost for France. You are allowed to accuse someone of cowardice only if you've been in the same situation.
#57 to #54 - anonymous (08/29/2013) [-]
Uh, no, you don't, in the same way you don't have to have killed millions of people to call say someone was a genocidal maniac. It was cowardice plain and simple.
User avatar #58 to #57 - hudis ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
Saying it's "cowardice plain and simple" when you weren't alive at the time and probably haven't spoken to a Frenchman who was either is both ignorant and disrespectful and doesn't warrant further discussion on the subject. I'd really suggest honing your ability to look at things from more than one point of view.
User avatar #63 to #58 - kevlar (08/29/2013) [-]
as far as i know there were a **** ton of frenchmen who said **** it and attacked the germans occupying france. that doesnt excuse the french government of their cowardice.
User avatar #66 to #63 - hudis ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
You can't call it cowardice. Nazi Germany was a gargantuan war machine fuelled by extremism and hatred and cold hard efficiency. France was an insect to them. I know it might be hard to understand, but surrender might have been the better choice in the long run.
User avatar #67 to #66 - kevlar (08/29/2013) [-]
and either way its citizens fought for a country that was dead. no matter what, the government pretty much **** on the people of france with its surrender. your gonna tell me the actual fench armed forces werent stronger than a ******* regular people? if a country betrays the people in a way such as pretty much giving them away to a "war machine fueled by extremism, hatred, and cold hard efficiency" then the leaders of said country are cowards. the french people were some brave mother ******* , but i cant honestly say anything good about the WWII era government. abandoning Nam? thats fine, they were the only ones aside from the US that actually did enough to say they did, but aandoning your country is something people should never do. i cant stand most of the people ive met in my life, and im not all too patriotic, but if the US was invade, no matter how ****** the odds were to win, i wouldnt abandon it.
User avatar #71 to #67 - Riukanojutsu ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
Ok get this, the germans had a ******* of tanks and **** while france had WW1 equipement. the german wouldve nurmed france the same way the russian burned russia. It just isnt worth it. Its not about abandon this or abandoning that. Its just arithmetic, more people wouldve died if France kept fighting.
Theres an enormous difference between civillian guerilla warfare and 2 army fighting, being that you dont know whos your enemy. The french really innovated the way of the guerilla warfare, they didnt know their allies were but they still manage to annoy the germans.

You obviously know very little on the subject so you should at least try to learn why they resigned.
User avatar #75 to #71 - kevlar (08/29/2013) [-]
honestly, bro, the reasoning is lost on me. WWI equipment or not, i just personally believe it was wrong. its the whole belief system thing. any government willing to drop to its knees while its people are fighting for their own country is in my mind cowardly. i would say the same thing if another country that could steam roll the **** out of the US came and attacked us and our government surrendered. i also dont see why there is an arguement here, seeing as though yes, youre using facts, and yes i may look like a retard defending my beliefs like this, either way its still how i see the french surrender in WWII. ill say again, french people themselves were beast as **** , the government wasnt. North Vietnam proved extremely well what can happen if you combine civilian and military guerrilla warfare tactics with an organized military. if you remember correctly, the US won almost every battle in Nam, but in the end lost the conflict just as the french did because of the way the North Vietnamese used both civilian and organized militant groups
User avatar #77 to #75 - Riukanojutsu ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
But its not cowardice. Thats the thing, its was the smartest thing to do. You cant just fight forever. You have to know when to stop. Pride is a dangerous thing.
Lets say you capture 3 wild animal, foxes for example. At first theyre all savage and refuse to listen to you but at one point 2 of them started to listen to you while the third one is still as savage as ever.
You'd just kill or release(its not that great of an example :V) it. If you look at this objectively, the 2 that listened to you are still alive, fed and are living under a roof while the third one is dead (or released).

point is, the smart move is not always the honorable one and its really stupid to keep fighting out of pride.
User avatar #85 to #77 - kevlar (08/29/2013) [-]
hey now buddy, i believe i called myself retarded for my way of thinking on this matter. multiple N A tribes were extinguished for that reason. i know enough about WWII to know that the french made the smart move, and i know they were **** compared to germany. the axis powers needed to be opposed by every single allied force the world could bring together. the chinese were being raped(literally) by japan and required the assisstance of the US army(which it kinda got since members of our military were allowed to go fight in the assisstance of china, thoguh unsanction, before the pacific theater), the russians werent fairing too well(if not for Normandy and other things the western allies did on the way to berlin) germany would have even descimated them. i just have an ass backwards belief system that dates as far back as the first human to walk the earth.either way though i believe the french gov was wrong in their response to nazi occupation. also, your example was pretty great, imo
User avatar #86 to #85 - Riukanojutsu ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
As long as you understand its the smart to surrender, youre cool in my book.

Really? thanks. I realised that releasing the fox was kinda letting him win since it was his goal to be free.
User avatar #90 to #86 - kevlar (08/29/2013) [-]
yeah, a surrender is a great way to prevent casualties, which is always smart. japanese surrender in pacific for example. also, the other 2 foxes will prolly lead a much better life that the one released. the released fox will be somewhat institutionalized i guess you could say, thus limiting its survival abilities compared to a fox that was never taken away from the ntural order of things. it will easily regain its skils, but will it be able to survive that long?
User avatar #91 to #90 - Riukanojutsu ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
If it wasnt for the Nuclear Bombs Japan would have probably not surrended RIP grammar . After such a demonstration of power he had to choice. Japanese soldiers were hardcore with the bushido and **** coincidentally they had a very low survival rate, who wouldve thought.

I thought about that too, its true but its not really applicable in the context of France and germany.
User avatar #172 to #91 - kevlar (08/29/2013) [-]
they would have eventually surrenedered, but it would have cost the lives of many more people than the nukes did. we also would most likely have need more direct hel from nations such as England(i know they helped indirectly a decent amount, but i cant remember how much direct help we recieved)
also, i believe we can both agree that Canada was the ultimate badass in WWII
User avatar #177 to #172 - Riukanojutsu ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
I agree 100%
User avatar #69 to #45 - Riukanojutsu ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
Hmmm no?
#106 to #24 - teranin ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
>Implying france had the balls to fight without their big fancy wall

Still it's silly to make fun of a country forever for the actions of a few people in charge of that country. Isn't that right, Germany?
User avatar #270 - TarnRazor (08/30/2013) [-]
I'm still trying to make sense of Captain America's body in the 3rd panel
User avatar #291 to #270 - weinerdick ONLINE (08/30/2013) [-]
He's squatting and turning his torso to grab the shield
User avatar #293 to #291 - TarnRazor (08/30/2013) [-]
I see it now.. Kinda...
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