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#257 - kommandantvideo (08/21/2013) [-]
Actually, Iron Man doesn't even need money to make a suit. He's an absolute genius. He went to MIT, a prestigious university at the young age of 14, and when he was in Vietnam as a prisoner, he basically had nothing but some crappy asian materials to work with, yet he was able to make a very good war machine. Batman, on the other hand, is just a wealthy guy with nothing to do but sit around and fight crime. When he's not fighting crime, he's not doing anything productive, he's moping about how his parents are dead and how he hates the joker, meawhile, Tony Stark is expanding his empire getting contracts for more money, improving upon his designs, and improving the iron man suit CONSTANTLY. You can take away tony's money and suit, but he'll just find some materials and make a new one. Then what, batman? you're gonna use martial arts against metal? unless you're a crazy buddhist monk and you can shatter metal with a karate chop, you're ****** .

Tony Stark > Batman in my opinion.

I am prepared to receive your thumbs, DC fans
#169 - spatialstatus (08/21/2013) [-]
Nothing against Batman, but I kinda doubt he could survive without the Sun, let alone be just a regular person.

Just thoughts.
User avatar #93 - serotonin (08/20/2013) [-]
If you take Iron mans suit you and up with just a man.... that can make some of most advanced tech in the marvel universe (on earth he is beaten just by Richards and Doom i think)
#55 - bbdabrick (08/20/2013) [-]
I would just like to note that an EMP wouldnt do **** to iron man.
User avatar #37 - PVTDickStryker (08/20/2013) [-]
>Implying Superman can't break Bruce's spine before he reaches for his kryptonite
>Implying Superman can't **** up Bruce from a distance where the Kryptonite would be useless.
>Implying Ironman cant equally **** up batman from a distance
>Implying Ironman's suit isnt resistant to EMPs
Batpussy is just an unlicensed detective in a black cape with a bat fetish and a need to skulk around with a tween in tights.
User avatar #39 to #37 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
Also, Tony Stark is pretty good with martial arts.
#46 to #37 - amegaara (08/20/2013) [-]
this is what everyone will give you if you start an argument about "batman vs someguy"
User avatar #49 to #46 - PVTDickStryker (08/20/2013) [-]
Not like it isnt accurate.
User avatar #34 - ljxjlos ONLINE (08/20/2013) [-]
I can´t be the only one to be annoyed by the Batman-Hype, can I?
Seriously, I´ve never been a big DC-Fan, but I´ve always kinda thought Batman to be a pretty cool Superhero. But since this hyping started, I really grew to hate him.
Everybody seems to think he´s the almighty, most intelligent one-man-army ever, undefeatable, nearly a God. Seriously, there are so many Superheros that would destroy him. Tony Stark is at the same level of Intelligence, if not higher, the Hulk ould beat him to a Pulp, Squirrel Girl would destroy him, Superman Prime could simply un-think him, etc, etc - Superman and Tony both can fight without their Powers/Armout, too...And now I´m only using famous examples.
Sometimes I really wish the Nolan-Movies never happened, simply so the hype wouldn´t have happened and I still could enjoy Batman without getting annoyed.
User avatar #35 to #34 - oddesy (08/20/2013) [-]
Nope.
Always liked Ironman more.
#18 - Laver (08/20/2013) [-]
Tony Stark knows how to fight without his armor. Superman knows how to fight, and he's also a genius. People seem to forget that Batman isn't the only superhero who can throw a punch without help from powers or a suit.
User avatar #20 to #18 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
There's throwing a punch and then there is knowing almost (if not all) forms of martial arts which Tony Stark does not.
User avatar #40 to #20 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
No, but he knows when to run, and having an ARC reactor for a heart is probably good for cardio.
User avatar #52 to #40 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
By what I've seen, the arc reactor powers the suit, and a magnet that keeps inoperable shrapnel from going into his heart. A magnet that used to be powered by a car battery. Even still, batman runs after thugs all night, every night. I doubt he'd lose a race against Tony Stark, and even if he did batman still wins because just running away would be a forfeit; leaving batman the victor of the fight.
User avatar #53 to #52 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
But still, Iron Man vs Batman, Batman is left with a hole where his everything used to be from repulsor blasts.
User avatar #58 to #53 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
Iron man doesn't have these things in this situation. It is a matter of what the fight would be if all of them were stripped of their gadgets and powers, but if they were to fight with their gear, batman has emp technology that would be able to stun Tony, and also be able to dodge said blasts, given his athletic frame. It would be difficult to track him using his weapons, while he used his batarangs to knock sensors offline, and batclaws to tether him down. Even if he couldn't pull that off there is his own plethora of suits he could choose from at the beginning, knowing he couldn't do so without one.
User avatar #59 to #58 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
Well see, that's not really fair, since their powers define them. Ironman would be an idiot if he didn't have a Suit with him at all times, and Tony Stark isn't an idiot, so you'd have to take away his intelligence too.
User avatar #66 to #59 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
The post shows how batman could beat all of them how they are, and even if the playing field is leveled, it still isn't really leveled, as his skills would still exceed theirs.

and batman can sulk and brood all he wants, he still wins.
#25 to #20 - Laver (08/20/2013) [-]
Yeah, but he still knows how to fight. And Superman is still way smarter than Batman, so it's not like he couldn't think of a way to win.
User avatar #26 to #25 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
Batman fights plenty of people that know how to fight. He still wins by a landslide due to his superior physical conditioning and fighting knowledge and experience.

Now what is your evidence suggesting superman is smarter than batman? Batman is an inventor with his many gadgets, an expert strategist; already having multiple contingency plans in place to beat not only superman, but every member of the justice league, not to mention his detective skills being comparable to none. Superman just relies on his powers. He never stands his own when those are taken from him. He just gets his ass handed to him until he recovers them.
#27 to #26 - Laver (08/20/2013) [-]
Superman, as a Kryptonian, has an intelligence that is above genius level. All Kryptonians are that smart, it's not a super power. They're just smarter than the rest of us.

And if we're taking away what gave everybody their powers, then Batman would never have learned those skills if he wasn't rich.
User avatar #28 to #27 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
He didn't learn his combat skill using money. He studied with the basics under Ras' Al GHul, and intelligence in other matters is out there for anyone that wishes to look. He just doesn't have the equipment which is taken away in this situation anyways.

Now I'm not sure if superman's intelligence is linked to the yellow sun with everything else though, but I think batman has enough mental strategy, combined with the fighting knowledge and ability to take on a superman with no powers.
#29 to #28 - Laver (08/20/2013) [-]
But they took interest in him because of who he is. And he wouldn't have been able to travel without the money.

With the yellow sun, Superman can think faster than a supercomputer. Without the yellow sun, he's intelligence is still at genius levels.
User avatar #31 to #29 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
He found them on his own, he didn't get selected for who he is. He found them and did their tests to become one of them, so he may get the training and knowledge that came with it, only to go rogue when he did not agree with their methods. Bruce wayne didn't learn everything in the comfort of his manor. He was out in the world on his own, only to come back when he had found his place as Batman.
User avatar #261 - imagangstapimp (08/21/2013) [-]
Well if the sun wasn't there, it'd be hard to perform martial arts. We'd all be ******* dead.
#197 - firstresponder (08/21/2013) [-]
bane broke batmans back
User avatar #205 to #197 - sketchE (08/21/2013) [-]
but bane is a combination of brute force and skill
#211 to #197 - Yojimbo (08/21/2013) [-]
And where exactly do you see Bane in the diagram above?
User avatar #190 - conoriskool (08/21/2013) [-]
superman without sun means no kryptonite weakness but kryptonians are still stronger and faster than an average human so yep.
#179 - applescryatnight (08/21/2013) [-]
ok time to educate you ignorant ***** .
tony stark has been injected with extremis.
pretty much super soldier serum
it gave him super strength, endurance, and speed.
also gave him the ability to control machines with his mind.
so he can use several suits at the same time.
so yeah, he can stop the emp with his mind.
and if he couldnt, he would still be inside armor thats light enough for him to move around with it IN HIS BONES. if he could move with it inside of him, he can move with it outside.
that means, he is still protected.
and he has super strength.
and since stark can control machines with his mind, most of batmans gadgets are generally useless.

so batman - gadgets = martial arts professional
and tony stark - suit = super soldier
even though stark isnt trained to the level batman is,
a super soldier can still rip a guy in half.
pic related. i like this lord iron.
User avatar #181 to #179 - superunclesam (08/21/2013) [-]
Also, Kryptonians are naturally stronger, faster, and all around better than average humans. He my not quite be SUPERMAN when not exposed to the yellow sun, but he would definitely be above human level
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#269 to #179 - angelusprimus (08/21/2013) [-]
Time to educate an arrogant **** who doesn't pay attention.
Tony Stark was injected with modified extremis. He didn't want or got super strength or endurance or speed. He wanted control over machines. His body got no better.
Inside the hollows of the bones armor was a failure, he no longer uses it. Stark is back to having armor built around him. Or carry it as nanobots. He is back to "Suit for every occasion" since Marvel NOW.
And Stark uses but does not rely on extremis, because it got deactivated on him during Secret Invasion.

So basically, nothing you said is true.
#274 to #269 - applescryatnight (08/21/2013) [-]
after secret invasion his memory was rebooted into him after he portions of it.
he found out he still had extremis in him, it was part of his genetic make up, and he did use it after that point. to which degree, i do not know. i dont actively read comics, just whenever i have the chance

he still has the healing factor of extremis. thats what i meant by endurance. maybe i was wrong about super strength and speed, but i would have sworn he had them to some degree.
User avatar #180 to #179 - asasqw (08/21/2013) [-]
Tell that to bane
#183 to #180 - applescryatnight (08/21/2013) [-]
bane was a super soldier,
but he was dumb and slow and bulky
by comparison, stark is small and has heightened speed.
and is a genius, equal to or better than batman
also regenerative capabilities.
and if the venom is cut off, bane loses his strength. stark is permanently a super soldier.
#191 to #183 - beut (08/21/2013) [-]
>bane
>dumb
no
#194 to #191 - applescryatnight (08/21/2013) [-]
depending on which version of bane it is, he could be seen as smart or dumb
but you cant say he was smarter than tony stark.
User avatar #196 to #183 - leagueofdraaaven (08/21/2013) [-]
dude bane isnt a retard he is actually smart read the comics, and watch the dark knight movie and you'll see.
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#199 to #196 - applescryatnight (08/21/2013) [-]
didnt say he was a retard.
i actually shouldnt be discussing dc comics, as i dont really read them
im more of a fan of marvel, and my knowledge of dc is mostly from cartoons as a kid.
i do know that in the storyline in the comics where he actually did use venom, his mind was mostly clouded and he wasnt at his full mental potential.
when he stopped using venom, and most other stimulants, he was a lot smarter.
#270 to #199 - angelusprimus (08/21/2013) [-]
Umm bane is genious level criminal mastermind.
Before he fought and broke, literally broke, batman, he had batman though psychological warfare where batman was barely able to react to things and was emotional wreck.
Bane OUT PLANNED batman and then out fought him too.
User avatar #187 to #183 - superunclesam (08/21/2013) [-]
******* this. Bane was a raging mass of muscle, not like Stark has ever had a chance to study something like that before, especially not something 40000000000000000X stronger than Bane. Nope never happened.
#176 - jamiemsm (08/21/2013) [-]
first of all i like batman.

BUT.
tony start knows martial arts too.
hes smarter than batman.
im pretty sure he got some super special protection against something like and emp.

also inb4 yes i ******* loved iron man 3 even though it wasn't the mandarin we know
User avatar #177 to #176 - thelordofrepost (08/21/2013) [-]
A copper box around the wiring is very good protection against emps.
User avatar #298 to #177 - lolwtfbbqryan (11/02/2014) [-]
do you ever go back through your old content, through the comments section, just to see if anyone is online? because i do.
User avatar #299 to #298 - thelordofrepost (11/03/2014) [-]
I hardly ever post content. I check my old comments though. A couple days ago some dude whose computer had been broken for a while replied to a comment I made in 2012. Apparently it had been what was open when his computer broke.
#301 to #300 - thelordofrepost (11/03/2014) [-]
I know right? I wished I had thought to post this pic. I didn't think of it till later.
User avatar #302 to #301 - lolwtfbbqryan (11/03/2014) [-]
post it
User avatar #303 to #302 - thelordofrepost (11/03/2014) [-]
Can do boss.
User avatar #304 to #303 - lolwtfbbqryan (11/03/2014) [-]
i meant link oops
#178 to #177 - jamiemsm (08/21/2013) [-]
i didn't know that
User avatar #218 to #178 - thelordofrepost (08/21/2013) [-]
Is there any text under that spoiler. It won't show for me if there is.
#287 to #218 - jamiemsm (08/21/2013) [-]
i cant see it my self either for some reason

but yea what acerose said
#294 to #287 - acerose (08/22/2013) [-]
jamiemsm , you are the first person on Funnyjunk to ever mention me in a comment.
#255 to #218 - acerose (08/21/2013) [-]
"I didn't know that "
User avatar #97 - littlebangaa (08/20/2013) [-]
I don't get it. So Superman, without the sun, becomes weak? You have to take away the sun for him to be on equal ground with batman. But, if there is no sun wouldn't batman die as well? :/
Also, Krypto martial arts. Just an FYI
User avatar #102 to #97 - Wimbles (08/20/2013) [-]
Supermans powers come from being under a yellow sun, under a red sun he is no stronger than a normal human.
#92 - klutzyspy ONLINE (08/20/2013) [-]
superman isnt super at night?
#101 to #92 - garbizzle (08/20/2013) [-]
I'm assuming it's supposed to mean that it removes all traces of the yellow sun from superman, or something.
#91 - John Cena (08/20/2013) [-]
The Batman fandom is just as bad and annoying as any other fandom. Maybe even worse.
#89 - spokenwun (08/20/2013) [-]
Batman.
User avatar #73 - shunkahawolf (08/20/2013) [-]
yeah cause im so sure a genius like tony stark would never think to EM proof his suit. also supes knows several kryptonian martial arts that would probably at least rival earth styled martial arts and make him a match for bats. all three of these men are genius's beyond normal human comparison and while tony hasnt been trained as much as bats and supes he still has martial arts training and even in his suit he has to have the reaction time to act on anything that pops up on his HUD so hes both physically fit and could react in time to adapt to the fight so im guessing he would be able to hold his own in a fight with either of these guys if they didnt have their powers/gadgets
#83 to #73 - kingbulbasaur (08/20/2013) [-]
Dude, Iron Man's suit gets hacked all the 			*******		 time in his comics. It's frustrating, really.   
Also, if he EM proofs his suit he gives up other things -- his suit can't have an all-in-one.   
Also, Superman's 'martial arts' are contingent on him maintaining his Kryptonian strength -- they're not for ordinary men like Batman.    
Batman is trained to recognize muscle movement, dude. His response time is definitely much better than Superman's (assuming he is without his powers)
Dude, Iron Man's suit gets hacked all the ******* time in his comics. It's frustrating, really.
Also, if he EM proofs his suit he gives up other things -- his suit can't have an all-in-one.
Also, Superman's 'martial arts' are contingent on him maintaining his Kryptonian strength -- they're not for ordinary men like Batman.
Batman is trained to recognize muscle movement, dude. His response time is definitely much better than Superman's (assuming he is without his powers)
User avatar #85 to #83 - shunkahawolf (08/20/2013) [-]
dude kryptonian martial arts were created by kyrptonians. people without super powers, they were all normal people like humans so their martial arts would not be contingent on super strength, only enhanced by it. and supes can recognize muscle movement as well.
User avatar #30 - imofcnotharveydent (08/20/2013) [-]
I think this discussion is effortless since only batman and superman have ever been in a fight ( as far as I know ) and that ended a tie ( because of reasons so deal with it ), so why would we keep this discussion up?
It's growing to the point of gun law arguments and religion/atheist **** fights
#63 to #30 - jeremybenden (08/20/2013) [-]
yes that did happen, but in the comics batman has beaten, even killed superman
User avatar #86 to #63 - imofcnotharveydent (08/20/2013) [-]
this is my point, it's so many different universes, and somewhere somehow someone is going do get a different outcome to satisfy the fans, but it won't it will cause a **** storm to sell comics
#233 to #86 - jeremybenden (08/21/2013) [-]
yes, i do believe anything is possible in the comics with the multiverse. in some universe it has happened the other way around. i dont think batman is the best hero, i just think he is the most likely to win in a fight because he is the best strategist, once he knows ur weakness he'll come up with a multiple plans to take u out if need be. notably they wont always work but they seem to at least 7/10 times
User avatar #6 - goddamnitgostnappa (08/20/2013) [-]
Tony Stark's main ability is his in intelligent with out it then he wouldn't the money or the suit, but he can still invent different thing if you don't remove his intelligence which makes the equation wrong.
User avatar #22 to #6 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
Batman is very intelligent too though. He'd have equal skill at inventing things on the fly. Anything greater that Tony could build would fail as he simply wouldn't have the time, given the vicious assault.
User avatar #43 to #22 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
Except, if batman is equal at inventing things, why doesn't he have a suit of armor similar? Or for that matter, a suit of armor capable of blocking more than fists?
User avatar #44 to #43 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
Batman has bigger suits of armor than tony does. He actually has specific suits meant to take on superman if he ever went homicidal.
#48 to #44 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
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And The Hulk is without a doubt stronger than Superman, and Tony can take down the Hulk.
User avatar #47 to #44 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
Then why doesn't he use them? Work smarter, not harder.
User avatar #50 to #47 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
It would be overkill on your common thug and batman doesn't kill. It also would really impede on the "I am the night" thing of his. Can't stealth around the city in a giant robot.
User avatar #51 to #50 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
Tony Stark made a stealth suit in the comics, why wouldn't Batman be able to? Oh, because he's not as much of a genius.
User avatar #54 to #51 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
Batman just doesn't simply need it. He can take on all of his foes and does quite well without a suit. His suit, as I said is just for fighting superman if there ever is a case that he goes rogue. Now I will say that Tony Stark is a better inventor in general, this scenario is just looking at what they could do in a fight, without their equipment/powers. That really limits what they could both invent on the spot if they could invent anything. Making it equal.
User avatar #56 to #54 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
Right, but Batman's enemies are total weaksauce compared to the world-ending **** Tony faces. I'd like to see what Batman could have done against the giant armored flying worms in The Avengers. Other than throw a knife shaped like a bat, I mean.
User avatar #60 to #56 - flemsdfer (08/20/2013) [-]
Well Tony had an entire team for that too, but batman does have his own suits, and extensive knowledge. He could use technology to beat said beasts like a suit, develope toxins to poison and kill the worm. He really does have an answer to everything......except how to bring back his parents.
User avatar #61 to #60 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2013) [-]
And Tony Stark doesn't go around bitching and sulking like Batman.
#99 - cursesnew ONLINE (08/20/2013) [-]
There is no way Batman can win vs Superman if Superman fights him with a bit of his strength.

Krytonite won't save Batman from tons of objects flying towards him. Superman also got a frost breath which would easily lock down Batman.

With IronMan I doubt an EMP is gonna do much against him. It might depend on the write but Ironman got protection for it. Hell, his suits just overcharge when Thor shot him with a bolt of lightning. A strike that would have fried every circuits on a motherboard. This would in fact be the worst case scenario and Batman can not make a bigger lightning bolt.

So if Batman can't use EMP, he can't do much against Ironman. Ironman can walk through a mine field, take an Anti Air shell to the head in his suit, take fire from ************* JETS and still get away reasonable unharmed.

Batman is just more popular and that is why some writers make him win more often. When in reality, other super heroes would be the winners.

The time Batman won against Superman in a cartoon, it was only because Superman held back all the time. He holds back almost every time he fight someone, with the exception of Thanos.

Oh and it doesn't matter how prepared Batman is or if he gets the jump on Superman with Kryptonite. Superman can run away at the speed of sound and he has a super hearing as well.
Kryptonite also doesn't always put Superman in a pussy state and he has beaten enemies when in full effect of it. Enough to kill Batman if he used the same power on them.
#107 to #99 - jusbox (08/20/2013) [-]
He holds back almost every time he fight someone, with the exception of Thanos.

With the exception of Thanos.

Thanos.
#275 to #107 - cursesnew ONLINE (08/21/2013) [-]
So I'm not a comic book nerd big deal, but I was thinking about Darkseid. Thanos and Darkseid are quite similar but with different color schemes.
User avatar #288 to #275 - jusbox (08/21/2013) [-]
I completely agree.
User avatar #171 to #107 - daghost (08/21/2013) [-]
Yeah, but batman is too much of a bitch to ever kill anyone because "I'm emotionally scarred over losing my parents"

Iron Man gives no ***** about killing people.
User avatar #290 to #171 - jusbox (08/21/2013) [-]
I'm sorry what?

I think you replied to the wrong comment.
User avatar #292 to #290 - daghost (08/21/2013) [-]
No. You said Suparman holds back in every fight. So does batmen
User avatar #296 to #292 - jusbox (08/25/2013) [-]
No, I was repeating the comment above, stating that the user had named Thanos, a Marvel villian.
User avatar #113 to #107 - Tyranitar (08/20/2013) [-]
I'm thinking he meant Doomsday, but I have no idea how he mixed up Doomsday and Thanos.
User avatar #114 to #113 - jusbox (08/20/2013) [-]
Im thinking he may have meant Mongul.

Because, let's be honest.

Thanos and Mongul does kinda look alike.
User avatar #116 to #114 - Tyranitar (08/20/2013) [-]
A little bit, I guess. Or possibly Darkseid.
User avatar #289 to #116 - jusbox (08/21/2013) [-]
Agreed.
User avatar #100 to #99 - Tyranitar (08/20/2013) [-]
Superman himself shared with Batman knowledge on how to kill him, in case he ever goes bad again.
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