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#155 - olelicious
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(08/03/2013) [-]
Well actually he moves his finger....
Well actually he moves his finger....
#164 to #155 - sketchE
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quite a lot actually
#154 - cazabrow
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Oh enough of this ********.. One single moment where his finger is ON the hammer whereas for the other minutes of this scene it isn't.

A factually wrong repost, how worse can it get?
#181 - curveball
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I don't think that was intentional, it's probably just how he was holding the gun at that moment. It's cool that someone noticed something like that, but more likely that they're reading into something that isn't there.
#143 - erpetrich
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Keith Ledger's Joker is great, no question. But for for me, he isn't the best villain of all time...   
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Keith Ledger's Joker is great, no question. But for for me, he isn't the best villain of all time...
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#151 to #143 - willowwolf
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The only reason I take issue with this is because I believe that Bill was not a villain.
Sure he was a "bad" guy, but I mean, so was DiCaprio in this movie. I mean, they were both gang leaders who killed people every day, just with different sets of values.

I ******* love bill though. favorite movie character of all time, tied with V.
#179 to #151 - erpetrich
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I see where your coming from, seeing as it is essentially based on real life events and real people. But at the same time, it is a very exaggerated and romanticized version of those events, its doesn't go for a real life depiction of Bill the Butcher, he acts like a very typical bad guy, also to take into account is the fact that its all seen through the eyes of DiCaprio, he is telling the story therefore his version of Bill, the guy that killed his farther and terrorized the Irish immigrants. Since he hates Bill, he therefore sees him as an evil guy.
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#145 to #143 - blueeyeswhitevenom
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who's keith ledger?
#174 to #145 - RomanPH
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I Give you Keith Ledger!
#146 to #145 - kurozama ONLINE
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He meant heath fedger.
#149 to #146 - erpetrich
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Woops, I guess I've never seen his name written down, or cared enough to remember
#34 - demandsgayversion
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I doubt he would've stopped him. He's the joker, dude was ******* crazy.
#189 - krnboy
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this is the most retarded thing i've seen, have you even fired a gun before? Absolutely no way you can stop the hammer from falling with your finger if the trigger is pulled. This is a load of ********, OP sucks cock
#243 to #189 - trippypunchline
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Can I just ask, have you ever fired a gun before? You can definitely stop the hammer.
#244 to #243 - krnboy
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Yes, I have fired many guns and own a .40 Sig Sauer SP 2022
#271 to #189 - myfjusername
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yes you can mate, atleast with revolvers. I know most automatics have a lever to release the hammer without setting off the primer but it should be possible to stop the hammer and gently place it back to it's original position before it was pulled back..
#257 to #189 - grasman
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Yes I think so too.
You definitely can create more force when pulling the trigger.
Furthermore I think that the force you use to pull the trigger is actually increased by the internal mechanics of a gun.
But I never shot with a gun, so that are just speculations.
#264 to #257 - krnboy
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THANK YOU! finally someone with some common sense!
#228 to #189 - ZombieSquirrel
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No, I'm pretty sure you can decock a revolver.
#251 to #228 - krnboy
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when the **** did we start talking about decocking it you brainless nut eating furry ****? We're talking about whether or not the gun would fire when Harvey pulled the trigger, and the Joker's finger is on the hammer, therefore the argument is whether or not the Joker would be able to stop the hammer from falling with a mere finger if Harvey had decided to pull the trigger, you dense piece of *****.
#246 to #228 - krnboy
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I'm pretty sure if your finger is simply trying to hold it back when firing, you can't reference: I just tried it
#249 to #246 - cptblackkawk
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The **** kind of Sig do you have that you can only decock it with the ******* decocker? Put your god damn finger on the hammer, pull the god damn trigger, and slowly bring the god damn hammer forward.
IT'S NOT GOD DAMN ROCKET SCIENCE
GOD DAMN
#250 to #249 - krnboy
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are you ******* retarded? when did we start talking about decocking it you brainless **** stain? We're talking about stopping the hammer from igniting the cartridge after pulling the trigger, with merely your finger. You ********, go crawl back underneath the pile of **** you came out from
#252 to #250 - cptblackkawk
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Hahahaha!! Whiiiiich can be done by decocking the firearm. Derp harder, son.   
You're the one talking about stopping the hammer from moving with your finger on the hammer when you pull the trigger. That's some weak ass grip if you can't stop that hammer from moving.   
Thank you for the conversation, but we're done here if you're really this dense and have to resort to petty name calling. Enjoy your broken Sig.
Hahahaha!! Whiiiiich can be done by decocking the firearm. Derp harder, son.
You're the one talking about stopping the hammer from moving with your finger on the hammer when you pull the trigger. That's some weak ass grip if you can't stop that hammer from moving.
Thank you for the conversation, but we're done here if you're really this dense and have to resort to petty name calling. Enjoy your broken Sig.
#255 to #252 - krnboy
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LOL literally go to your gun and try this, post vid, that just does NOT happen, anyone who knows anything about guns would know that after pulling the trigger, a single finger can't keep the hammer from firing.
#258 to #255 - cptblackkawk
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Okay, seriously, dude, if you're really that involved in firearms and you can't even decock your hammer with just your thumb or finger and can't stop said hammer from slamming forward, you either failed physics or gym class. My bet is going to be on the latter.
#267 to #258 - krnboy
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have you ever fired/owned a gun? If so, what gun do you own? Because for certain guns, you can't decock without pressing a button, due to certain mechanisms inside the gun (don't really want to go into all the specifics tbh) but the issue is not whether you can decock or not, the issue is CAN YOU STOP THE HAMMER FROM FALLING ONCE THE TRIGGER HAS BEEN PULLED! AND THE ANSWER IS NO! seriously, either you're confusing the issue at hand here or just brain dead, and i sincerely hope it's the first one
#268 to #267 - cptblackkawk
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Well, let's see here... I've only been involved in competition shooting and tactics training since I was very young, thanks to my family. Remington 597, Glock 26, Springfield XDM 5.25 .45 ACP, Heritage Arms Rough Rider .22LR/.22WMR, Sig P226 MK 25, Sig P238, Remington 870, Franchi model 400, Remington 788 in .243, Mossberg .243, a few more that I can't be bothered to go through with putting up here.
Now then, no, you can't stop the hammer from falling once you've pulled the trigger, but you CAN stop it from striking the strut to engage the firing pin in order to fire the round currently in the chamber, or in the cylinder in place to be fired.
I still can't fully tell if you're being serious throughout this argument or you're really just not understanding the concept of the hammer being stopped before it strikes off the round. I could put a god damn tiny piece of wood in front of the hammer and even it would stop the round from firing because the hammer was not able to set off the firing pin.
#269 to #268 - krnboy
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yes, if your hammer was IN BETWEEN the hammer and the firing pin, HOWEVER if you LOOK AT THE PICTURE, the JOKERS FINGER is ON the hammer NOT BETWEEN, do you get what im saying?
#270 to #269 - cptblackkawk
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Okay, so, you, personally, honestly can't decock your firearm with your thumb on the tail of the hammer? Still trying to figure if you're serious or not. It's seriously not that hard. Hell, pull back on the hammer a little bit if you have to. Then it's even easier!
#233 to #189 - cptblackkawk
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If the hammer is already cocked back and you place your finger in between the hammer and the frame, there is very little room for the hammer to travel, making it very easy and comfortable to stop the hammer from setting off the firearm.   
Many people who aren't comfortable with dry firing their revolvers use this as a method to keep them pristine while still getting in practice with the trigger pull.
If the hammer is already cocked back and you place your finger in between the hammer and the frame, there is very little room for the hammer to travel, making it very easy and comfortable to stop the hammer from setting off the firearm.
Many people who aren't comfortable with dry firing their revolvers use this as a method to keep them pristine while still getting in practice with the trigger pull.
#242 to #238 - cptblackkawk
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In a struggle, of course you're more likely to be injured and break a finger, simply by having it in there and the aggressor moving the firearm.   
However, while at home, with a finger or thumb sitting low enough, I dry fire my revolver all day, ever day and the most I get is a little red mark on the joint.
In a struggle, of course you're more likely to be injured and break a finger, simply by having it in there and the aggressor moving the firearm.
However, while at home, with a finger or thumb sitting low enough, I dry fire my revolver all day, ever day and the most I get is a little red mark on the joint.
#245 to #233 - krnboy
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Perhaps if your finger is inbetween the hammer and the frame but not simply by having a finger on the end of the hammer (as shown in the pic). Trust me, I just tried it on my Sig and that does NOT work
#169 - deadadventurer
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I hate that this ****** picture has gotten the success on FJ that it has.

You know when he puts the gun in Harveys hand he actually removes his fingers several times to point at Harvey to accentuate points. Harvey could have seen the opportunity right there and blown his brains out.
#116 - murrlogic
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If The Joker were in The Dark Knight Rises Bane would be a footnote.
#131 to #116 - ithyphallophobia **User deleted account**
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Bane has been a footnote until The Dark Knight Rises
#106 - rabaneristo
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I dont think it would work.
#40 - jesuscf
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#21 - JohnnyBlaire
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Guys, if Dent pulled the trigger, the Joker's brains would have been splattered all over the wall. A trigger is essentially a lever that moves the hammer back and sends it forward once it passes a certain point. It's quite strong, too. If Dent has so much as a child's finger strength, he would be more than capable of counteracting the force of the Joker's finger.

I'm not saying Heath wasn't great, but this is not a part of the story (his fingers move a fair bit during this scene,) and it would be silly to believe it would work.
#25 to #21 - anon
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You don't know **** about guns. The hammer moving forward gets its energy from an internal spring, not the trigger.
#26 to #21 - sohmboodeee
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Then explain how decocking works, because by your logic, conventional decocking would just fire the round.
#31 to #21 - manwithmanynames
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Um, no. The hammer is not lifted by the trigger. It is pulled back (cocking), then the trigger allows it to drop the hammer from its locked up position with enough force. To un-cock said gun, one holds the hammer back (can be done with index finger from his position) and pulls the trigger. The finger stops the hammer from dropping, and allows the handler to lower the hammer without firing the shot.
#32 to #21 - BreakTank
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No. Just No. Look up decocking.
haha...decocking
#260 to #32 - JohnnyBlaire
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I'm a ******* retard. I reread what I wrote and it does sound like the spring within the gun is not even a thing. My mistake.

That being said, if a gun is cocked, and the trigger is pulled, the spring in question is still quite strong. It has to be in order to ignite the primer in the gun. I've not tried it myself, but it seems likely that it would spring out of your finger, given the surprise element behind it.
#261 to #260 - BreakTank
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Alright man. Here's some gun knowledge for you. The hammer falling does not cause a spark. What it does do is cause the firing pin to hit the primer. Think of the firing pin as a big sewing needle that is tapped forwards by the hammer falling. When it hits the primer (part of the round itself) a tiny spark is created that ignites the rest of the powder in the casing. In order to decock a revolver like the one in dent's hand, the trigger HAS TO BE PULLED. The hammer tension is light enough to be held back with a thumb even after pulling the trigger. So if the trigger was pulled, joker would have no problem holding it back.
#262 to #261 - JohnnyBlaire
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I got the first part right, then? What you wrote was my understanding of how guns work, but, once again, I might have written it in retardese.

As for the force that the hammer has behind it, that was a bit of a shot in the dark. I remember someone's hand getting caught in there once and quite a bit of blood coming out. Guess that might have just been a pinch.

In any case, thanks.
#263 to #262 - BreakTank
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It sounded like you were saying the hammer sparked the primer. And absolutely if the hammer came down full force on a finger or something it would definitely break the skin. But that would be at the very end of it's release. Think of a clicker pen. When you want to retract the tip you push down on the spring and let go. But you can also slowly let the spring release without taking your thumb off of the top. Same thing with the hammer of a gun, it just takes more pressure to let it down slowly.
#172 - felex ONLINE
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I have folder just dedicated to Heath. should I drop it here
#188 to #172 - kakkakrabbypatty
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do it
#229 to #188 - felex ONLINE
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So, what do you think?
#230 to #229 - kakkakrabbypatty
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's pretty good. Well done.
#231 to #230 - felex ONLINE
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Thank you. I did Joker cosplay last week when there were big festival in my town. I have pictures of my scars and costume. I'll drop them later.
#232 to #231 - kakkakrabbypatty
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Cool, man
#234 to #232 - felex ONLINE
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Wow, someone thumbed me down.

I think he takes everything too seriously.
#235 to #234 - kakkakrabbypatty
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Why are you being so serious
#239 to #235 - felex ONLINE
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I'm not being serious.
#241 to #239 - kakkakrabbypatty
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No, I was... nevermind
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#216 to #188 - felex ONLINE
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now comes gif.
now comes gif.
#227 to #188 - felex ONLINE
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And for the last picture this is my own personally favorite picture.
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Joker & Harley Quinn
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#162 - backupclover
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... Watch the scene, he takes the hammer back.
#152 - narwhalsforhire
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or maybe thats just where his finger happened to be in what was chosen as the best version of this shot and everyone's just reading way to deep into something meaningless
#171 - fortyninersfan
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there are just some villains you can't hate
#134 - mrspi
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The Joker always knows what he's doing! Even when he rips off his own face
The Joker always knows what he's doing! Even when he rips off his own face
#144 to #134 - lateday
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Wasn't it Strange who ripped it off?
#124 - beatlestrainerwins
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maybe heath ledger doesnt know how to use a gun?
#81 - hhanako
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unless it's a double action revolver, in which pulling the trigger pulls the hammer back. most revolvers are double action now anyways

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-action#Double-action
#85 to #81 - frodoswaggins
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unless you're saying that the joker cocked it in the first place, then it wouldn't matter if it was double action or not. if you hold the hammer when you pull the trigger it doesn't strike the bullet with enough force, so no bang
#88 to #85 - hhanako
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fair point. but it doesn't look like he has his finger over the hammer anyways
#91 to #88 - frodoswaggins
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i don't think this is what happened in the movie anyway, i'm pretty sure he cocked the gun for Harvey, then took his hands off it completely... i haven't seen the movie in a while so i could be wrong
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#110 to #107 - hhanako
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no
#20 - subaqueousreach
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I love the Joker and all, but I'm pretty sure if Dent pulled the trigger the Joker's index finger wouldn't be able to hold the hammer down from that position.
#30 to #20 - manwithmanynames
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Actually yeah, it would. When a revolver is cocked (or any hammer-action gun), one can un-cock it by holding the hammer back as one pulls the trigger and slowly and gently lower the hammer. This allows the hammer to go back into place (thereby lessening the chance of an accidental shot) without enough force to fire the gun and waste a shot.
#109 to #30 - subaqueousreach
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I'm aware that you can do that, what I'm saying is his index finger doesn't look like it's holding all that firmly to the hammer and could probably slip off should Dent actually pull the trigger.
#273 - anon
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In any case he would have to be pretty strong to hold back a hammer with his index finger...