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#350 - llpanic
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#243 - yuvesh
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realities of war
realities of war
#13 - anon id: dcc31673
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war is good for the economy. It keeps people from focusing on the real problems.
User avatar #19 to #13 - blasthardcheese
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*Idiots
#277 - payseht
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#283 to #277 - anon id: 97070962
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Pfft, ********. I think the men with guts strewn across the ground are the victims of war.
User avatar #308 to #277 - chiefrunnyjeans
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**** you Hillary. What a stupid bitch
User avatar #293 to #277 - dafiltafish
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Primary? no, sorry Hillery, can't let you have that one. however It an interesting topic. Are the ones you leave behind the ones who suffer more?
#279 to #277 - teranin
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She said that with a straight face, too.
#309 to #277 - heartlessrobot
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Fun Fact: Hillary Clinton will not be running for president next election due to a brain tumor found during her colonoscopy.
#246 - almightythor
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My friends, it has often been said that I like war.
Friends, I like war.
No, friends, I love war!
I love holocausts. I love defensive lines. I love sieges, charges, I love mop-up operations, and retreats.
Wars across prairies, in streets, in trenches, in grasslands, in frozen tundras, through deserts, on the sea, in the air, I love every act of war that can occur upon this earth.
My heart leaps with joy whenever a soldier is tossed into the air and cut to pieces by well placed sniper rounds.
And there is nothing like a tank operator destroying enemy tanks. And the feeling that comes when a soldier runs screaming from his blazing tank only to be mowed down by heavy machine gun fire, is such an exquisite feeling.
Like when ranks of infantry brandish their bayonets rushing into the enemy line. It moves me deep within my heart to watch a fresh recruit stabbing over and over into the bloated chest of a long-dead enemy.
War is a beautiful symphony of hell on this wondrous earth.
#252 to #246 - sierramistfourteen
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User avatar #264 to #246 - toguro
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If you're going to quote The Major from Hellsing at least have a picture from Hellsing or no-one is going to have a clue as to what's going on
User avatar #265 to #264 - almightythor
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I know I thought I had one but I couldn't find it, it occurs to me know I prolly could have downloaded one but to little to late.
#211 - EdwardNigma
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I get it. War is bad. People die in war. It's common knowledge that doesn't need to be brought to my attention.

**** sucks, but like, what can you do?
User avatar #263 to #211 - tylosaurus
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Not support it.
User avatar #212 to #211 - thepandaking
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you can not sign up.. that's a start.
User avatar #215 to #212 - EdwardNigma
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But you can't really stop other people doing it.
User avatar #220 to #215 - thepandaking
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very true, those commercials for it make people feel like if people say "you probably shouldn't sign up," they're saying "I don't support you" and it gives them this rebellious cause to sign up.
User avatar #223 to #220 - EdwardNigma
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The Australian ones are the opposite. Heres a quick rundown.

"*****. THE ******* ARMY/NAVY. IS THE ****.
YOU WANT TO LEARN SOME SKILLS? HERES SOME ******* ENGINEERING WORK.
WANNA LEARN TO FLY A PLANE? **** SON, HERE YOU GO.
LETS BUILD. A ******* AIRFIELD. IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. IN LESS THAN A DAY."

Apart from screaming and swearing, it's pretty accurate.
I think it'd be better with screaming and swearing.
User avatar #228 to #223 - thepandaking
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well it's like that here too, but I meant just in the commercials. The Navy came to my high school a few years ago and all my classmates were obsessing over it because the presentation was all about how badass people who join the Navy are.
User avatar #229 to #228 - EdwardNigma
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Well yeah, they get to go and kill giant whales, take down ancient alien gods, join the Drowned God in his watery halls, sing with a crab.

Sounds radical.
User avatar #230 to #229 - thepandaking
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I just wanna sing with a crab...
#234 to #230 - EdwardNigma
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But if you kill the whale you get to say rad ****.
"FROM HELLS HEART, I STAB AT THEE, FOR HATES SAKE, I SPIT MY LAST BREATH AT THEE"
And killing this guy would be fun.
User avatar #235 to #234 - thepandaking
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what about singing with a crab though?
"UNDAR DA SEE! EVERYTING'S BETTAR EVERYTINGS WETTAR UNDAR DAH SEE!!"****
User avatar #236 to #235 - thepandaking
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I think I overdid that. I'm tired. I should bed. bye.
#225 to #223 - screaming
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10/10 Was worth being interrupted by my mention in your comment.
#140 - anon id: 26df2926
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I am sick for those ******* stupid who thinks their soldiers are heros, THEY ARE MURDERERS! American soldiers are not hero, they are baby killers, murderers, I REPEAT, they are MURDERERS!!
Nothing they had done to secure the country, but bringing shame to us. The true heros is, in this case, Vietnam soldiers because they are defending their country and people from invaders.
The same goes to Iraq, Afghanistan and also Japan in WW2. Japan only strike Hawaii once, and that's it, but Americans dropped atomic bomb twice.
Don't you see it? Are you blind? Those are murderers of the innocence!
After that, they were raping the locals, ruining the entire families relationship, destroying the hopes and many others.
They are killing the sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, husbands, wives!
This is the painful truth of American soldiers.
They fight for the greed corporations and politicians who support wars for their businesses and powers.
THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN AMERICA!
User avatar #167 to #140 - brobafett
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Lol, be a little more assmad faggot
#148 to #140 - xoyv
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...RIGHT, because AMERICA was going to war for their OWN SELFISH NEEDS


and totally not to stop this man from killing millions of people
User avatar #170 to #148 - SognaVetr
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While the US did a good thing in WW2 and made big sacrifices that we have to honor... Don't be fooled that there was no monetary goal as well. And the US did get a lot of financial profit in return.
#150 to #140 - anon id: ce472415
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I don't know why, but I read this comment in Hayley Smith's voice from American Dad...Shut up, Hayley.
User avatar #144 to #140 - thecopyninja
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imagine if your countries military suddenly disappeared. i bet instead of accusing them to be murderers, you would be willing to sell your soul and your balls to have one of those HEROES protecting your useless arrogant stretched out asshole of a body when the enemy invades you **** and is trying to ******* kill you.

(also about the Japanese america dropped the first bomb and japan still wouldn't surrender, then they dropped the second, though there is speculation that the power of the new atomic bombs should have been demonstrated to them, you can argue that point based on my previous point of them still not surrendering after the first bombing (also a lot of people died in pear harbor))

#166 to #144 - captainreposty
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What in holy **** are you on about!?

Did you actually study history, or are you just rehashing some incorrect information you most likely heard on a commercial?

The Japanese were about to give up, contrary to popular disbelief, when 'Murica dropped a ******** of "freedom" on them.

If America gave up it's military, or rather it's military rebelled against it's corrupt government and said "No, we refuse to bring human misery to the world anymore", then i'm sure the rest of the world would be MORE friendly towards America.
I think you forget that most people abhor America, like seriously, you overestimate your world standings.
User avatar #187 to #166 - thecopyninja
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and also i did not say that is america gave up its army im saying if it were to disappear, im aware that america is a large trade partner to most of the world and has multiple other assets, as well as the fact that most countries abhor america, however if the country did not have a military defense im certain another country would wage war on it.
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Hiroshima, a manufacturing center of some 350,000 people located about 500 miles from Tokyo, was selected as the first target. After arriving at the U.S. base on the Pacific island of Tinian, the more than 9,000-pound uranium-235 bomb was loaded aboard a modified B-29 bomber christened Enola gay (after the mother of its pilot, Colonel Paul Tibbets). The plane dropped the bomb--known as "Little Boy"--by parachute at 8:15 in the morning, and it exploded 2,000 feet above Hiroshima in a blast equal to 12-15,000 tons of TNT, destroying five square miles of the city.

Hiroshima's devastation failed to elicit immediate Japanese surrender, however, and on August 9 Major Charles Sweeney flew another B-29 bomber, Bockscar, from Tinian. Thick clouds over the primary target, the city of Kokura, drove Sweeney to a secondary target, Nagasaki, where the plutonium bomb "Fat Man" was dropped at 11:02 that morning. More powerful than the one used at Hiroshima, the bomb weighed nearly 10,000 pounds and was built to produce a 22-kiloton blast. The topography of Nagasaki, which was nestled in narrow valleys between mountains, reduced the bomb's effect, limiting the destruction to 2.6 square miles.

At noon on August 15, 1945 (Japanese time), Emperor Hirohito announced his country's surrender in a radio broadcast. The news spread quickly, and "Victory in Japan" or "V-J Day" celebrations broke out across the United States and other Allied nations. The formal surrender agreement was signed on September 2, aboard the U.S. aircraft carrier Missouri, anchored in Tokyo Bay.
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User avatar #189 to #144 - dubslao
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holy ****
i thought I was the only one who did the two parentheses thing like (...(...))
User avatar #190 to #189 - thecopyninja
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i picked it up from math, at least in Canada its how we close a double bracket
User avatar #193 to #190 - dubslao
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i picked it up from math too
#203 to #140 - neznanc **User deleted account**
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Don't judge soldiers for actions of their governments. It's the country's governments that sends soldiers to war and it's the soldiers job to obey and do what he/she is told. And you are just a common ******* that needs to learn a lot.
Don't judge soldiers for actions of their governments. It's the country's governments that sends soldiers to war and it's the soldiers job to obey and do what he/she is told. And you are just a common ******* that needs to learn a lot.
#219 to #203 - anon id: 8dd55185
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You should read up on the Nuremberg trials.
"I was just following orders" was the legal defense of many of the surviving high-ranking nazis after WWII. It was decided in the trials, that every single human being on earth have a higher duty than that to their country or superiors: We all have a duty to follow a set of ethical rules for all of humanity. This means, for example, that killing civilians can never be justified, no matter your orders. I can't beleive ppl still use the "just following orders"-excuse. It didn't work 60 yrs. ago, it doesn't work today. Find another argument.
From wiki on nuremberg principles
"Principle I states, "Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment."
Principle IV states: "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him".
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#336 - alexleukaemia
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I really like this image.

It's called War and Peace
User avatar #355 to #336 - arsenymous
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That is very nice, you know who did it?
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User avatar #154 - fingernails
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I think I'm going to hell, cause in the 5th panel I was trying to figure out if the design on the towel was blood or just the natural look of the towel...
#126 - anon id: e5c3c0ce
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Without war America would have been Chinese, and Europe would have been the Nazi empire.

>inb4 thumbs down because you know I'm right.
#129 to #126 - spectralkestrel
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but we dont know how bad things would be right now if, all countries were united into one empire, all we can do is speculate
User avatar #136 to #126 - sabotagesam
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Without war, Hitler wouldn't have invaded Europe, and I don't know what are you talking about with the Chinese. But I assume you're pretty simple-minded, based on your poor understanding of world history.
User avatar #176 to #136 - doodogger
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You act like war is an object that you can just get rid of. No, war is human nature and will never end.

War itself isn't bad, the instigators in the war is what's bad. The evil ones who the good guys try to stop.

War is just a byproduct of good fighting evil; evil fighting good.

It's not always clear who is good and who is evil, however.

My weird as hell opinion.
User avatar #179 to #176 - sabotagesam
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No, I don't act like that, please don't project opinions on me. I'm just saying that it is something that we should try to avoid. Stealing, murder, oppression, abuse of women and children and all of those who are weaker than others have all been around from the beginning of time. That doesn't mean that - by our rational mind and natural morale - we shouldn't try to cut that back as much as we can.

Envisioning the fight of good and evil is simplifying. Everyone is evil and good at the same time, it is our actions that have to be dealt with, not our persons, not our bodies. That is why war is not solving any of our problems. It does not make better men and women, much like severe 'correctional' facilities don't correct, instead, they dehumanize people even more. That's what war is, only at a greater scale.

And if the actors and actions in war are bad, then war is bad, by simple deduction.
User avatar #183 to #179 - doodogger
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I didn't project my opinion on to you, because I don't believe war is an object that can be discarded, and now I realize that you don't either.

Are ALL the actors in war bad?

Was it bad for an American to shoot Osama Bin Laden dead? Would NOT executing Operation Geronimo have saved lives?

Should we have just did nothing when 911 happened?

Should a country NOT fight back when it is invaded?

In my opinion, war is more ugly than it is bad.

I wish war didn't happen, but when it happens to you, you have to fight it.
User avatar #191 to #183 - sabotagesam
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Not necessarily. Protection of human lives is the goal. That is why you 'defend' yourself. But starting a war in Iraq is not defense, it is a long endeavor of sending soldiers to walk up and down and die, while abusing the local innocent populace, making their life a misery, more then any native dictator could, promoting violence in the meantime.

Countless people died, injured, had their lives ruined, much more than in 911, and you can't say that this prevented more terrorist attacks, because we don't know, and also, those people haven't come back from the dead either.

Saving and protecting lives: that is police work. I don't think killing off Osama had made a difference, as I've heard, he didn't do anything in the last decade, he 'retired', but investigations and crimefighting, paired with a fair justice system is a good tool.

What we really need though, what is the long-time tool, is social policy. Education, health, jobs, community, social security. If the Middle East would have that, then the Americans wouldn't have to worry about terrorists as much. This is the real prevention strategy.

Killing and injuring as many people as one can: that is a soldier's work. That's the difference. And nothing good comes out it, even it is 'justified'. Believe me, I know, people as old as my grandparents have fought in the revolution of '56 in Hungary. But they are not proud of it. They killed Russian soldiers and secret service soldiers with molotovs, first world war era guns and anything they could find. But in the meantime, teenagers died by the dozens, every day. There's no such thing as a 'good fight'. They lost, but even if they had won, I'd say that. 'Necessary evil' is the justification of the winner. You can make a change non-violently too.
#197 to #191 - doodogger
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Yeah, I partly agree with your first paragraph. Going to Iraq was iffy, because we weren't defending our self, we were helping someone else when it probably none of our business. Abusing the local populace? That's a popular belief, but you don't really know unless you were there. "Making their life a misery, more then any native dictator could", that right there is subjective, it's your biased opinion.

Iraq wasn't about terrorists, it was about the innocent iraqi's having someone to turn to when So-Damn-Insane was gassing them to hell. All though there was an insurgent surge in the later parts of the longer than necessary war.

When you said he retired, no one knows for sure, and there's a high enough likelyhood of that being wrong. Police work? Osama Bin Laden had about 3000 Americans killed, that's the work of a mass murderer and getting him seemed like "police work" to me. Should we have just let him get away with it? If Ted Bundy was to stop killing for 10 years, would it have been necessary to just let him go?

You are partly right, but along with hating Americans, they also hate eachother over there. That is why war/violence there will never end any time soon. Lots of schools and highways have been built there.

"Killing and injuring as many as one can" No, that's what a terrorist, school shooter, or a mass murderer does. An American soldier (probably a lot of other armies do too) doesn't typically shoot unless shot at first by an armed combatant. I can see why many people who have fought in wars are not proud of it, and I respect that. And I agree that there are times when violence isn't necessary.
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As a vet myself, this hit me in the feels.
As a vet myself, this hit me in the feels.
#316 - jellyraptorz
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why do we do this. **** war.
why do we do this. **** war.
#319 to #316 - anon id: 97070962
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Aggressors give us no choice but to fight.
#323 to #319 - anon id: 489bbe68
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********, there hasn't been a war that's threatened american soil for over 100 years.
#335 to #323 - lordaurion
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WW2 and the entire Cold War.
#361 to #323 - anon id: 97070962
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1. Jihadists are a very real threat to the west.
2. I'm British.
3. Who the **** cares where you fight? Waiting to be invaded is stupid.
#326 to #323 - anon id: e56f013b
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Except, you know, when they used planes as missiles.
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Damn, #7 was shocking. She looked like she wanted to leave him but felt guilty.
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maybe not so much wanting to leave him, but she really looked like she couldn't look at him, while still feeling for him, which is even worse.
User avatar #227 to #217 - doodogger
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Yeah. You're probably right.
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User avatar #1 - listerthepessimist
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******* monkeys, man
User avatar #4 to #1 - listerthepessimist
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I can only assume the downthumbers think war is 5 parts awesome
#32 to #4 - vladstronsy
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Yar, we seem to have taken a wrong turn at Orkney.
User avatar #9 to #4 - whiskeygunner
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6 parts
User avatar #10 to #9 - listerthepessimist
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Thanks for the correction
User avatar #11 to #10 - whiskeygunner
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LOL I wasn't a downthumber though, so you could still be right
User avatar #12 to #11 - listerthepessimist
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I didn't think you were to be honest, If you're gonna vote down an anti-war statement you probably don't have the cognitive capacity for sarcasm
User avatar #119 to #12 - SgtObvious
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If war didn't exist, the Holocaust would have never ended, North and South America would be unsettled, barbarian tribes would still be roaming around attacking people, etc. War is necessary in select situations and if you don't understand that then you don't have the "cognitive ability" to understand human nature.
User avatar #58 to #1 - I Am Monkey
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I take offense to that
#81 - stlassassinfhc
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36 more days til i go to bootcamp in fort benning! Cant wait!
User avatar #86 to #81 - roflstorm
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No.

You CAN wait.
#92 to #81 - mattdoggy
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>excited about Day 0
>excited about Day 0
User avatar #79 - newforomador
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The 7th one, I'll admit that that guy is ugly as ****, however, I'll have to say that the woman deserves something for staying with him. A lot of people would've said **** him, he's ugly now. So good on her for that.
User avatar #99 to #79 - redrex
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don't quote me on this, but i heard something like, she married him so she wouldn't seem like a bad person but divorced him right after. so she was just covering her ass
User avatar #100 to #99 - newforomador
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If that's the case then I retract my first statement.
User avatar #102 to #100 - redrex
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yeah, but i'm not 100% positive on that though
#66 - unikornking
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Obligatory albino uruk hai from lotr that's posted every time this is
#57 - SheWolfie
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The 6th one

The feels