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#125 - anon
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(07/10/2013) [-]
The USA will burn and the world will rejoice! Purge the fat freaks!
#128 to #125 - anon
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see? I can understand when someone hates us because we **** up other countries.

but when you just say we're all fat, i can confidently know that you've never been here and you actually have no idea what america is like. Your experience with Americans is probably some tourist sightings.

oh, and that makes you a stereotypical, narrow-minded asshole.
#148 to #128 - anon
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i was in the states and saw several fat people. the world is right about this.
#154 to #148 - shadowhorn
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"several fat people"

The entire country must be obese based on that genius evidence
#197 to #148 - chiefrunnyjeans
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Was in the UK and saw several fat people.
#196 to #125 - chiefrunnyjeans
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(07/10/2013) [-]
Found the islamist
#134 - ellenrimbauer
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(07/10/2013) [-]
NSA Wiretap Footage REVEALED!

similar
#94 - anon
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People on this site is so self centered it's not even funny. What makes you think you're special? Do you really think you are worth a damn to the government? It's just plain out ridiculous how people are nothing but sheep and jumping on the band wagon with the most bare and simplest of information. You people are basically like the idiots who called Mass Effect a "alien sex simulator".
#113 to #94 - therobawesome ONLINE
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#115 to #113 - anon
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Cared enough to reply...
#130 to #115 - anon
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(07/10/2013) [-]
the fact that you just put everyone on a website in a single category makes me instantly view you as a retard.

all people are not equal, dumbass.
#79 - anon
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(07/10/2013) [-]
"I ******* hate how the president is responsible for absolutely everything wrong"

--a retard that doesn't understand checks and balances
#81 to #79 - anon
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(07/10/2013) [-]
President is not even an american. Who could ever blame him?
#88 to #81 - therealgraficscat
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#92 to #88 - anon
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Please don't post in abandoned thread.
Your Trololololol.
#95 to #92 - anon
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It's not abandoned if you're still here retard...
#147 to #95 - anon
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i guess i am talking to myself. i really am a retard, d'oh.
#167 - mostcertainlynotop
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I personally find content like this funny, its like a political cartoon. What I don't like are the people who start ranting every time one pops up. I don't care if you don't like us, that's your opinion, but you don't have to be an asshole about it.
#181 to #167 - jesusthegardener
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(07/10/2013) [-]
opinions are like assholes. everyone has one
#21 - anon
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I wish people would try and learn what has actually been going on. This scandal only exists because people want their government to be doing something bad and so jumped ignorantly at what initially sounds scary.

They cannot listen to your calls, that's not what metadata is.
#86 to #21 - beatmasterz
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But they can, anon.
#96 to #86 - anon
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They can IF they can prove probable cause and get a subpoena from court. Seriously, the only reason this is a scandal is because people don't understand law or simple technology and aren't willing to spend time learning when they can instead just join a crowd of scaremongers.
#221 to #96 - anon
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Seriously, i don't understand it myself, but i will study this matter a bit more and return with some better intel. I need to act more careful next time.
#98 to #96 - beatmasterz
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See but that's the thing. NSA doesn't give a **** about that. Of course it's fine to tap someone's phone if they have probable cause, that's completely acceptable. But they don't give a ****.
#107 to #98 - anon
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You have no proof whatsoever that they have broken legal protocol. Nor did any of the documents 'leaked' by Snowden show any sign of illegal activity.
#222 to #107 - anon
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I mean, even if our boys from NSA and CIA found a juristic loophole, it is still moraly wrong and contradicts my strong believe in justice and liberty.
I sincerly fear the diplomatic consequences this affair may cause, because most people won't understand this quite unfair point of view.
#141 to #107 - beatmasterz
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Of course they didn't. They know every law and know how to bend every single one of them. For example it's illegal for the american government to spy on its people. That's why they make sure to spy on the people of Europe and vice versa.
#143 to #141 - anon
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You're simply ignoring facts in favour of keeping these ignorant notions. I have nothing more to add other than that you really ought to try and learn more about the situation.
#223 to #143 - anon
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However my heart and ear is always open to listen to your perspective. Together we may achieve some positive conclusion. I respect your oppinion m8.
#161 to #143 - beatmasterz
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Which facts?
#176 to #161 - anon
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That no evidence of any unlawful action has taken place. That the practices involved did not directly target US nationals. That no phonecalls have been listened to or emails read.

All you have is unsupported hatred for the government for doing something that has no evidence to back it.
#177 to #176 - beatmasterz
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The evidence was in the files leaked by mister Edward Snowden. And of course no unlawful action has taken place, that doesn't mean they didn't do what they did.
#202 to #177 - anon
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;)

You realise that no document Snowden released showed any signs of anything outside of their prescribed legal actions, nor proof of the claims made by the media? They don't and can't legally target US nationals or even anyone on US soil. They monitor foreign stations and as a result of how the internet works they capture lots of data which automatically gets put into the database.

However, this data is metadata - no content, just dates times and things. No phonecalls have been listened to, no emails read.
#204 to #202 - beatmasterz
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As previously stated, America spies on Europe, Europe spies on America, they exchange information. Phones are tapped, especially by England and Germany. E-mails and chats are being archived for further use.
#205 to #204 - anon
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Again, to obtain any information court orders have to be issued AFTER having proved probable cause and a need. Email METADATA is archived. Why is this concept so difficult to understand?
#207 to #205 - beatmasterz
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What do you mean? Since when did the FBI ever concern themselves with court orders?
#214 to #207 - anon
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Any data that is intercepted by the NSA, including all the data which the media is flaunting about as listening to your phonecalls and reading emails, cannot be used as evidence in law and cannot even be looked at by a human being until a subpoena has been obtained saying that it can be retrieved. A subpoena is only issued if they can prove probable cause, and cannot use any of the data content to prove it. If a subpoena is issues THEN they can request the content of the email or the actual phonelog.
#218 to #214 - anon
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Please forgive me, i got those seizures every now and then. I don't know how to stop this.
The gouvernment should really respect our privacy, thats important to me.
#215 to #214 - anon
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However thats beside the point because the PRISM 'program' as the media has been calling it is not in fact a program at all, nor does it target US nationals. PRISM is the database which analysis the huge quantities of data that is intercepted from foreign servers that are being monitored. I stress foreign because they are only legally allowed to target non-US citizens outside of the country. The fact that US citizens data has been logged is a byproduct of the way in which the internet is structured.

It really is worth looking into the technical details around this 'scandal' because it immediately becomes clear how much of a non-issue it really is.
#219 to #215 - anon
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What i am trying to say is, that i am personly not OK with this. Spying our friends and allied countries is just as wrong as targetting out own people. Snowden did a good job revealing what had to be made public. God bless.
#225 to #219 - anon
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I guess when you're too stupid to form a counter-argument trolling is the only option left.
#208 to #207 - anon
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Please excuse me, i guess you are right after all. Could not believe the obvious i guess. Thank you very much for your time anyway. I hope that America will see its fault and stop this. Snowden is a hero to me.
#210 to #208 - beatmasterz
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I smell sarcasm, but alright.
#212 to #210 - anon
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No really, your arguements were quite convincing. I don't think the USA should do something that is wrong like this or our allies won't be happy with us anymore. We should care more about our repultation as a democracy in the world and the teachings of our founding fathers.
#216 to #212 - anon
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You're an idiot, troll elsewhere or ass something of value to the discussion.
#220 to #216 - anon
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Sorry folks, copy and paste mistake. This was meant for another thread.
Disregard this please. Thanks.
#211 to #210 - anon
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Different anon, trolling.
#226 to #211 - beatmasterz
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Thought something like that.
#139 to #86 - samjamfan
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they could, but they don't, do you know how hard it would be to listen to EVERY ******* phone call?
#142 to #139 - beatmasterz
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They're obviously not going to listen to that. They're automatically being saved and if anyone needs it, they have access to it.
#241 to #142 - samjamfan
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(07/11/2013) [-]
only the NSA FBI and CIA not ANYBODY
#242 to #241 - beatmasterz
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Keep telling yourself that.
#53 to #21 - anon
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Found the NSA Agent
#138 to #53 - samjamfan
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they don't actually listen to every ******* phone call. they just archive them if they are needed for evidence and stuff
#180 to #138 - anon
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except im not a terrorist
#240 to #180 - samjamfan
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usually terrorists don't yell "hey everybody, i'm a terrorist arrest me!" so the government needs to do something called investigating
#36 to #21 - pariahlol
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I like you.
#190 - anon
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I feel like the only people that need to worry about the NSA are shady people and people with something to hide. Personally, if the govt wants to listen to me prattle on about how premed sucks to my mom or watch me stare at a computer screen all day, they can knock themselves out.

As long as it doesn't get up to some 1986, V for Vendetta ********, I...really don't see why I should be worried. *shrug*
#194 to #190 - chiefrunnyjeans
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So you're fine with having no privacy? How about having them have access to your webcam 24/7? You have nothing to hide right? Maybe a camera or two in your house? 'Cause you know, you have nothing to hide. Why don't they make a psychological profile and a database of all of your interests just for you while they're at it. And then a geographical map of everywhere you go, your current location, and your traveling habits so they know exactly where to find you at all times just in case they want to stop by and say hello. Maybe Mr. Orwell was wrong. Maybe he was just trying to ruin our fun. Having privacy is for people doing something wrong and they want to hide themselves anyway. No other reason obviously.
So you're fine with having no privacy? How about having them have access to your webcam 24/7? You have nothing to hide right? Maybe a camera or two in your house? 'Cause you know, you have nothing to hide. Why don't they make a psychological profile and a database of all of your interests just for you while they're at it. And then a geographical map of everywhere you go, your current location, and your traveling habits so they know exactly where to find you at all times just in case they want to stop by and say hello. Maybe Mr. Orwell was wrong. Maybe he was just trying to ruin our fun. Having privacy is for people doing something wrong and they want to hide themselves anyway. No other reason obviously.
#203 to #194 - anon
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(OP here)
By jeebuz i have seen the light! Thank ya, thank ya thank ya! All of the government is evil and I should have known!

...is that the reaction you were looking for??

Look, I JUST said I'd be worried if it got out of hand, and I'm pretty sure your little privacy rant is a good example of what that situation would look like. I do have an issue with it going that far. But with the current state of things, I'm really not conceited enough to think the government gives a **** about me or my daily activities. They're looking for criminals, and even if they were to listen in on me, it would take about 5 minutes for it to become apparent that I am not one of them. When the NSA starts being used to persecute innocent people, then I'll be worried. Otherwise, I really can't find a **** to give.
#229 to #203 - chiefrunnyjeans
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They store your information and then they categorize it. They don't jumble it all together. Imagine if they pulled a file containing all of your personal information including places you've been, your interests, and everything you've done online. A complete and total invasion of your private life. Pretty creepy huh? Still don't give a **** that you've been spied on by your own government for 12 years?
#201 to #194 - anon
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Don't forget about that every notebook, touchpad and smartphone has a microphone installed, that you got no real control over and could sent every sound it hears to any source. Don't say that this is paranoia or cannot be done, because it has been done several times before. Thats how surveilance and spyware works. Even turning off such a corrupted ystem ain't a guarantee to make it stop, only removing the batteries is a save method.
#217 to #201 - anon
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Tinfoil hat brigade seems to have a strong presence here.

You really are deluded if you think anyone gives that much of a **** about you. You're another anonymous, expendable cog in the very background of the world. Nobody gives a **** about your phonecalls or emails.
#228 to #217 - chiefrunnyjeans
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They care enough to build buildings for the sole purpose of storing and categorizing all of your info and record and store 3 billion phone calls per day. They are spying on the entire world. It's not random as I said. They target everyone and actually sort the information that they collect from each person. You can educate yourself or you can stay a mindless, ignorant sheep and ignore reality.
#230 to #228 - anon
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Except that you're talking absolute ******** and really ought to look into the facts. I've posted them far too many times trying to educate ignorant, idiotic, conspiracy nuts like yourself to care anymore. Feel free to stay in your media-hyped world of stupidity, i give up trying with you people.
#237 to #230 - chiefrunnyjeans
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Yeah, I looked at the facts. This is the facility that stores your ****: www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/03/16/new-details-on-nsas-new-spy-center-and-secrets-from-domestic-eavesdropping-operation-stellar-wind/
The NSA's powerpoint reveals just how they are getting your information, where they are getting it from, and how they are analyzing it indiscriminately. They aren't looking for criminals. Also most of FJ believes in this stuff because it's true. You're attempts to "educate" us fail because you're an ignorant naive ********. You can tune in to any news station and find this ****. It's not that hard. Open your damn mind.
#170 - anon
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#168 - anon
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I hope people understand that this government spying thing is nonpartisan. Bush did it too. People always seem to think that this is just the Democrat's work.
#171 to #168 - markertemp
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Of course, it's just getting a ton of light recently, and the repubs like to blame Obama for everything, anyway.
#178 to #171 - navywannabe
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Reagan didn't blame Carter for all of the problems...
Though Bush did start the Patriot Act; Obama has the power to over ride it. Im not sure why he hasn't though. W need less government in out lives.
And don't assume I was getting angry or butthurt there. Im just talking...as a Libertarian.
#179 to #178 - markertemp
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He hasn't overridden it because we have an obstructionist Congress who absolutely despises him and wants to make him look bad in every way. Everything he tries to do, they stop.
#184 to #179 - navywannabe
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I don't think that is it. Sure there are people who want to make him look bad, because that's politics. It's a mental war. But there are more RINOs who support Obama...Hints the name. I think it's just a way to government in our lives; to keep track of us.
I honoestly don't want the Amnesty (Spelling?) Bill to pass. I didn't want the "Obamacare" to pass either. Look at how "well" that is working. But I have a serious question.
I know Obama has no idea what he is doing, but do you think he knows what he has done?
Again I'm not angry with you; I'm here in good faith to not start a whole on arguement.
#193 to #184 - markertemp
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I actually think we have different definitions of RINO. You see them as the Republicans who support Obama, I see them as the Tea Party nuts who want to use God as an excuse to hinder the rights of others. The Republican party never used to try and use God as an excuse for all their actions, and the Tea Party coming around circa 2006 changed the definition of the party. I personally support Obama. I realize he hasn't done everything right, I realize the Affordable Care Act has its flaws, but I still feel he was a far better choice than the two people he ran against in the past 5 years. But there are many things he has tried to do that the GOP empowered Congress has constantly stopped. He was initially against the Patriot Act (or at least the major parts of it that were flawed when it was first enacted), he designed the ACA to make healthcare affordable, hence the name, and he has always been against raising taxes on people who don't make enough and against the cuts for the top one percent.

Obama may not be the best president, but many people claim he's the worst and compare him to people like Adolf Hitler with absolutely nothing to back it up.
#232 to #193 - navywannabe
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Plus tax reductions won't do anything. That will also cripple the economy even more. Tax raises for the rich is bad...They are made up of small business owners.
#231 to #193 - navywannabe
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First off RINO means Republican in name only. Obamacare is not affordable. Major companies are laying off people thanks to it. Part time employees can only work an average of 28 hours a week. I don't understand how the tea party is taking away our rights. Hitler took away guns and a majority of the people liked him. Obama is slowly taking away our guns. With this Amnesty Bill, letting in 11 million illegals, it will create more voters for the Liberals. Because those 11 million people owe the Democrats; with a vote. It will also cripple the economy even more. If I remember correctly; 5 trillion dollars.
#233 to #231 - markertemp
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To avoid an argument here, I will simply have to walk away..... and quote Voltaire: "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

It is clear we have differing opinions and will not change the other's mind. And with that, I bid you adieu for now.
#234 to #233 - navywannabe
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I told you this wasn't an argument... We were having a gentleman type conversation.
#235 to #234 - markertemp
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Oh I know, but I feel that if I continue, because I know me very well, I might accidentally start one. I'm stopping myself before I get out of hand.
#191 to #168 - chiefrunnyjeans
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Obama continued it willingly
#153 - anon
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**** Obama and the entire USA.
#195 to #153 - chiefrunnyjeans
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No just Obama. Our country is actually a nice place. You should go sometime.
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#124 - jbabco
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Paint skills: Off the charts.
#224 - roliga
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And that's why we have the second amendment. When citizens are armed King Obonga knows he has to bargain with the people instead of just ******** on our constitution.