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#309 - pyrusd (06/21/2013) [+] (26 replies)
The way I view Piracy since I didn't see anyone mention it.

1. To me it's a demo. If the item is good enough, I'll buy the real thing and support whoever made it.

2. If the item sucks and id contingent on me paying you FIRST before I get it, that is an unfair business practice to begin with. Think of any other instance where this happens and the customer is the winner. Plumber says just pay for my services then I'll stop by. Mechanic says just pay me before I fix your car. This doesn't happen in the "real world." Either an even exchange or payment after services rendered.

3. The complaint about piracy is theft. Theft implies the original is taken without consent. What was taken? You could argue money, which the folks have done, but again unfair business practice. Why should I give you money ahead of time and not know what I'm getting just to not be able to return the item and have you call it "theft" if I view / listen to it without paying you?

4. TV shows are largely pirated. When we have 0 methods of buying them to view them, how are we "stealing" something that isn't even available to buy? So if no money can be gained to begin with, how are you losing money?
#375 to #309 - wanicochil (06/21/2013) [-]
You can't justify pirating just because you don't like something

1. If you don't like food at a restaurant, there is nothing wrong with it, you just don't like it, you're not gonna get a free meal after you've eaten half of it, they will expect you to pay

2. Plumber/Mechanics you pay them for the product, (Fixed car or fixed toilet)

3. Reviews are in place for a reason, I use the restaurant example again, if reviews say that a place sucks, but you go there anyway and say "Man this place sucks, I'm not paying" do you think you get the right to walk out after eating without paying? No, there are services out there, youtube for starters, to preview games, movie critics, show critics, piracy is copying, not theft just fyi

4. You're stealing views from them, one view can count for a lot. because here and there views will be dropping like flies, therefore less people will want to put their ad there, therefore they have to put ad times at cheaper, and then suddenly they aren't bringing in enough money and boom show gets canceled
User avatar #133 - threeeehuggings ONLINE (06/21/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Also pirating a movie =/= me buying the movie when piracy was not an option.

They need to realise this, 99% of the movies I download I would never go to a movie theater for, or buy their dvd.
#32 - superduperpuper (06/21/2013) [-]
I don't trust reports and statistics. You know why? You can make them show what you want them to show. I bet the studie where they sai it's 20billion a year just considered the amount of times when a movie was watched on the internet. But if you don't consider the persons who don't have the money to see/buy the movie or wouldn't have seen it otherwise, because they don't want to waste money on a movie that they probably would just see because everyone else sees it, then that numbe would be extremely lower.


PS: adult swim rules
#386 - thepandaking (06/22/2013) [+] (3 replies)
I know this isn't a popular opinion, if anything, but I really just don't think there's any way to justify pirating.
I've done it twice for games but I don't tell myself that was a good decision or that "well I bought myself a sandwich the next day, so that makes up for it right?" you would have bought that other stuff anyway.
All I'm saying is, pirate all you want, but don't ******** yourself that it's "sharing" or that what you're doing gives "the system" the finger. You're doing a ****** thing and you should know it, just like I know I did a ****** thing.
#357 - anonymous (06/21/2013) [+] (2 replies)
ASIANS CAN ACTUALLY READ MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can hear, and see what you’re visually thinking. This is the absolute complete truth!!!!!

The reason a lot of Asians have completely expressionless faces is so they don’t accidentally show facial expressions when people think things they don’t like, find funny, astonishing, etc, and Asians segregate so their not nearly as susceptible to that happening.
Asians also segregate, and are untalkative to avoid accidentally saying things that are similar to what people are thinking and going to say.

Try thinking, and visually picturing things that are as wild as you can when you are around Asians, and look for Asians who give people dirty/particular looks for what appears to be for completely no reason.

PLEASE SPREAD THE MESSAGE!!!!! THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW THIS!!!!!
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User avatar #293 - Shiny (06/21/2013) [-]
I don't bother pirating **** myself, and disagree with it from a moral perspective, but the concept of "lost sales" is flimsy at best. Even with services like Netflix and Steam available to the masses, tons of people still consume their media illegally; most of them simply wouldn't use it if they absolutely had to pay for it.

Not to mention the fact that piracy often delivers a better experience than paying. No advertising, nothing phones home, DRM is cracked for flexibility, and there are even hobbyist developer teams like the late alterIWnet that actually added extra features to existing games. People might be more sympathetic to the media industry if they didn't punish the **** out of people that, you know, actually paid for the content.
User avatar #245 - alcoholicsemen (06/21/2013) [-]
i buy certain movies
User avatar #206 - mynameiskeanu (06/21/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Best free movie site right her.
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#196 - hankpym ONLINE (06/21/2013) [+] (6 replies)
>people will buy comic books

adult swim really is extremely wrong there

more people pirate comic books for convenience, since its easier to download it off the internet than go to your lcs and buy it

Pirating also hurts the gaming industry as well, and lets not forget software ...
User avatar #144 - bushingenna (06/21/2013) [+] (1 reply)
I think the industry should just evolve. Free sharing over the interwebz is the future.
#101 - cthumoo (06/21/2013) [-]
I bet you're all just bursting with opinions.
User avatar #91 - llpanic (06/21/2013) [-]
i recomend you to watch the jimquisition about piracy it's pretty interesting

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#72 - anonymous (06/21/2013) [+] (3 replies)
What about the people who made the films, hoping that they'd get enough money for baby formula, comic books, etc. You're essentially robbing someone who spent a lot of time and money creating something that has your attention if you wish to pirate it.
That's like you working a full time job for months and at the end, not getting paid because your boss pirated your work.
User avatar #77 to #72 - jurto (06/21/2013) [-]
>Implying they don't get money enough for thousands of baby formula.

Maybe independent movies, but Hollywood is not affected. And I still don't get this. Does people go to the cinema to watch movies only? I go more for the company, the pop-corn, and the lack of light so ideal for a date.

OMG, BLOCKBUSTERS IS GONNA MAKE US SO POOR! TV BROADCASTED MOVIES ARE GONNA MAKE US SO POOR!

If I were Hollywood, I'd make my movies free to watch on the internet after 2 or 3 minutes of adds. In HD, multi-language, download and subtitles available and good brandwidth. That would be, still, around 20 or 30 times the money youtubers make for each view. And it's big movies industries with big marketing campaigns.
User avatar #61 - ruebezahl (06/21/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Not bad. So it would be ok to just stop paying everyone who is employed by Adult Swim or who produces their programming? Because after all, the money will go into the economy anyway. So not paying these guys feeds babies.

I also decided not to pay the guy who fixed my roof last week, because I decided to feed some babies instead.

#52 - lolpakka (06/21/2013) [+] (2 replies)
They are ******* right... I don't think anyone just sits on their money without spending it, or investing it, meaning everyone pumps their earned money back into the economy.


BTW if you pirate a movie but then buy a movie-themed cup, or T-shirt or another ******** , the money will find its way to the movie makers anyway...
#18 - stlbecker (06/21/2013) [-]
not exactly... because there is money that should be in the economy but it is not. Say there is a movie and shoes. He saves 10 dollars by pirating the movie instead of buying a ticket to see it in theaters and he spends that 10 dollars he saved on a pair of shoes. You could say "hey the money he shouldve spent is still going towards the economy" which is true but he should of had to pay 20 bucks total. There is no way to steal things and not effect the economy
#13 - megaflak (06/21/2013) [+] (1 reply)
They have a point but your still taking things without permission
But what do my opinions matter, I'm going to go ********** .
#46 to #13 - atheistzilla ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
this is actually my desktop at the moment
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