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#278 - lordvimless ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
#164 - thebritishguy (06/21/2013) [+] (8 replies)
but if everyone just pirated films then there would be no money to make films and there would be no films, this is real simple ****
#83 - mckinkymcormic (06/21/2013) [-]
mfw it takes 3 days to DL Dr. Who 1-5
mfw it takes 3 days to DL Dr. Who 1-5
User avatar #76 - dennisc (06/21/2013) [-]
Film piracy isn't costing the film industry anything. It's just not giving them the money that people didn't have to spend on it. If people don't have the money then it cant go into the economy anyway.
User avatar #22 - faithrider (06/21/2013) [+] (24 replies)
piracy is not theiving. piracy is taking a copy, thieving is taken the real thing. in piracy the original stays the same. imagine someone stealing your car but it's still there the next morning.

yes i saw this on fp like 30 minutes ago. i just figured it's relevant now...
User avatar #23 to #22 - ThpiderMan ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
stealing present participle of steal (Verb)
Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right

Keep in mind that intellectual property isn't a messy grey area. Your logic is flawed and really juvenile. I don't dislike pirates. I do dislike people trying to moralize it or make it seem like something it isn't.
#309 - pyrusd (06/21/2013) [+] (26 replies)
The way I view Piracy since I didn't see anyone mention it.

1. To me it's a demo. If the item is good enough, I'll buy the real thing and support whoever made it.

2. If the item sucks and id contingent on me paying you FIRST before I get it, that is an unfair business practice to begin with. Think of any other instance where this happens and the customer is the winner. Plumber says just pay for my services then I'll stop by. Mechanic says just pay me before I fix your car. This doesn't happen in the "real world." Either an even exchange or payment after services rendered.

3. The complaint about piracy is theft. Theft implies the original is taken without consent. What was taken? You could argue money, which the folks have done, but again unfair business practice. Why should I give you money ahead of time and not know what I'm getting just to not be able to return the item and have you call it "theft" if I view / listen to it without paying you?

4. TV shows are largely pirated. When we have 0 methods of buying them to view them, how are we "stealing" something that isn't even available to buy? So if no money can be gained to begin with, how are you losing money?
#375 to #309 - wanicochil (06/21/2013) [-]
You can't justify pirating just because you don't like something

1. If you don't like food at a restaurant, there is nothing wrong with it, you just don't like it, you're not gonna get a free meal after you've eaten half of it, they will expect you to pay

2. Plumber/Mechanics you pay them for the product, (Fixed car or fixed toilet)

3. Reviews are in place for a reason, I use the restaurant example again, if reviews say that a place sucks, but you go there anyway and say "Man this place sucks, I'm not paying" do you think you get the right to walk out after eating without paying? No, there are services out there, youtube for starters, to preview games, movie critics, show critics, piracy is copying, not theft just fyi

4. You're stealing views from them, one view can count for a lot. because here and there views will be dropping like flies, therefore less people will want to put their ad there, therefore they have to put ad times at cheaper, and then suddenly they aren't bringing in enough money and boom show gets canceled
User avatar #301 - commanderbunbun (06/21/2013) [-]
so every time i watch a snuff film a feed a baby?
User avatar #292 - keiishiyama (06/21/2013) [-]
I live in a relatively small city with little access to any CD that isn't on Wal-Mart's or Meijer's shelves, but I ******* LOVE some of the most underrepresented CDs in existence, like Journey's Arrival album and Def Leppard's Adrenalize. I can't find those CDs anywhere, so I pirate them. As soon as I see those ******* on a shelf somewhere, however, I can kiss $20 goodbye because those will come home with me.
User avatar #281 - thempc (06/21/2013) [-]
i laughed the hardest when i saw the adult swim title @ the end
User avatar #255 - herblegerble (06/21/2013) [+] (1 reply)

The rest are interesting arguments. Piracy for the sake of piracy still makes you a cunt though. If you're in a tough money situation then fair enough, but if you've got £10 and you still choose to pirate an album/a film, you're a cunt.

i feel like this is an unpopular opinion
User avatar #257 to #255 - herblegerble (06/21/2013) [-]
To illustrate my point rather than just saying it:

Those of you who say that it doesn't actually cost them anything, in a way it does.
No, you didn't literally go and steal £10 from them, but what you did do is stop them from gaining that potential £10 whilst still getting your luxury. Had pirating not of existed it's pretty likely that you would've gone and payed for the album. You can say "oh well it's not that much", but when thousands of people all have that same thought, it is a lot.
#190 - tmdarby (06/21/2013) [-]
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#150 - anonymous (06/21/2013) [+] (2 replies)
They can hear, and see what you’re visually thinking. This is the absolute complete truth!!!!!

The reason a lot of Asians have completely expressionless faces is so they don’t accidentally show facial expressions when people think things they don’t like, find funny, astonishing, etc, and Asians segregate so their not nearly as susceptible to that happening.
Asians also segregate, and are untalkative to avoid accidentally saying things that are similar to what people are thinking and going to say.

Try thinking, and visually picturing things that are as wild as you can when you are around Asians, and look for Asians who give people dirty/particular looks for what appears to be for completely no reason.

#201 to #150 - spawnsy (06/21/2013) [-]
I hate using this picture due to fear of overusing it, look what your making me do
#148 - thekame ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
User avatar #146 - lurifax (06/21/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Here is my opinion (inspired by others)

I think, as many others, that piracy (of digital media) is in fact not bad for the digital media industry. Someone compared piracy of digital media to stealing from a physical business. This is completely different, as the digital media can be copied without the loss of any resources/funds, which the physical product cannot. The latter leaves the owner with a loss.
#193 to #157 - techketzer (06/21/2013) [-]
I could write an article, but the pic really says it all.
You get the idea.
User avatar #97 - badgerclan (06/21/2013) [+] (18 replies)
You can say that about stealing too. Go into a store and steal anything off the shelf and that's saving you money that you can put into the economy. Not a good argument.
User avatar #108 to #97 - Helel (06/21/2013) [-]
However that removes some of the shopkeeper's money from the economy.
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User avatar #100 to #89 - redclover (06/21/2013) [-]
so what you're saying is that people are in debt because they choose to NOT spend money on things? If they were spending money, they wouldn't owe so much money to lenders and banks?
#87 - anonymous (06/21/2013) [+] (2 replies)
And what about the creators? **** them? "hey guys i made a new indie game it cost me a lot of time and effort will you buy it please" -"NO **** you i need to feed mah baby"

i mean i know some people cant afford games or movies, i'm one of them actually but don't ******* try to tell me its okay to do that ****
User avatar #92 to #87 - Metallicock (06/21/2013) [-]
Games for me are different. It usually makes me end up buying the actual game.

Killing Floor
Duke Nukem 3D
Dead Island
Dead Island Riptide
Fallout NV

are all just some I pirated and then bought
As far as movies, I might actually pay to see one if I could trust Hollywood to actually put out a good one every now and then and for music, they make more off of merchandise and concerts than they do actual music. I would say piracy actually helps them in a way, in the sense that it exposes new fans who otherwise wouldn't have bought anything from them be it CD's, Merchandise, or tickets.
#82 - anonymous (06/21/2013) [+] (11 replies)
It doesnt take money from anywhere. It doesnt cost the film industry when someone gets it for free. They dont EARN, but they dont lose. They're money remains exactly the same.
E.g. You sold a poster to someone for £10. You have £10. If that person then gave their friend it for free, you dont suddenly lose that £10 again.
User avatar #96 to #90 - durkadurka ONLINE (06/21/2013) [-]
You can't assume that everyone who pirates a movie or song would purchase it otherwise. Assuming sales and then counting the absence of income as losses is just dishonest.
#32 - superduperpuper (06/21/2013) [-]
I don't trust reports and statistics. You know why? You can make them show what you want them to show. I bet the studie where they sai it's 20billion a year just considered the amount of times when a movie was watched on the internet. But if you don't consider the persons who don't have the money to see/buy the movie or wouldn't have seen it otherwise, because they don't want to waste money on a movie that they probably would just see because everyone else sees it, then that numbe would be extremely lower.

PS: adult swim rules
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